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Old 03-20-2013, 11:13 AM   #1
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The line cutting and shoving condundrum...

Reading many of the trip reports It seems that just about every one of them mentions the behavior of patrons while in line (cutting, shoving etc.) for rides.

The other common thing is that almost no one seems to say anything to those that are cutting or shoving their way into line. I'm not one to tolerate those things at the theme parks I have visited, and policies do exist, so why do folks put up with it?
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:21 AM   #2
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Its not something i,ve experienced a lot of at dlp. on the very rare occasion its been attempted around me it seems to be children and i have no problem at all in tapping them on the shoulder and saying ‘wait‘.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:30 AM   #3
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I think part of it maybe a cultural thing as well. I know when we go to Europe, it takes me a couple of days to get used to not having the imaginary box around me, like we do in America. I thought it was rude and people were running into us on purpose. I learned not to take it personally. Also leaving any inch of space between you and the person in front of you in line, is an invitation to cut.
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:07 PM   #4
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Its not something i,ve experienced a lot of at dlp. on the very rare occasion its been attempted around me it seems to be children and i have no problem at all in tapping them on the shoulder and saying ‘wait‘.
Likewise, have been a frequent visitor over the last 10 years, and rarely experienced it
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:44 AM   #5
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I don't stand for it myself and with DW and I being a bit on the wide side it's quite hard for someone to cut past us in lines, they are not very wide in France. If anyone tries I just put my hand on the handrail so they can't pass.

I also leave a bit of space infront of us to give us plenty of personal space between us and the people in front. If anyone tries to push us forwards a few choice words in their direction usualy helps. I have always found the words 'Do that again and I'll call a Cast Member and get you thrown out of the park' works wonders with stroppy teenagers.

And DW is never afraid to ask someone to Stop Smoking!. She did it twice on our last trip, once inside Studio 1 in WDS and again in the line for BTM in DLP. Pointing to the sign and saying 'Ne pas fumer s'il vous plaît' works well.

We also mainly go the the parks during the quiet season so the parks are quieter anyway.

I do remember the tricks some families used to use where they would send a small child ahead to run through the line and then 'chase after them'. After spotting this one once or twice on previouse trips we soon became wise to it and DW would stop the child from running past us and I would start calling for a CM to report the lost child. By the time a CM got to us the family would arrive and the CM would escort them and their small child to the back of the line.

I guess most people don't say anything because they don't want to start a confrontation especialy while they are away on holiday in foreign land where you don't speak the language very well.

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Old 03-20-2013, 11:53 AM   #6
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I guess most people don't say anything because they don't want to start a confrontation especialy while they are away on holiday in foreign land where you don't speak the language very well.
I wish this wasn't true but for me it is. I would rather leave them to it than risk an awful attempt at speaking French and/or embarrassing myself in English anyway. For me it's just not worth the confrontation, though if I was braver I would definitely say something.
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:49 PM   #7
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I remember having a wonderful "conversation" with a very annoyed chap who took particular offence to having to queue for literally 5 mins to get in for EMH.
I started by turning around and firmly saying NO!
By the end of the queue we were bestest friends.

I also remember sending my then 5 year old to get a drink from a cart where there was only a few people waiting. 15 mins later I decided I had to get involved and literally pushed my way through a pile of kids in order to get to my girl and lift her up to be served.

I wouldn't say I enjoy it at all, but it is definitely part of the holiday for me.
But then I am a gobby bird anyway!!!

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Old 03-20-2013, 01:17 PM   #8
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We get an easy access pass with Joshua's disabilities so hence probably don't see as much of this as others.
However, you can get rude people anywhere and it's natural the more people around the more likely it is to encounter some.
I see some every weekend at our local supermarket!

If I need to have a word with someone I will - but we tend to wrap ourselves in a little bubble and just concentrate on the good things and having a good time.
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If I need to have a word with someone I will - but we tend to wrap ourselves in a little bubble and just concentrate on the good things and having a good time.


I also don't understand why this is always made out to be so much more of an issue at DLP as opposed to the US parks. Whilst I think we're all in agreement that the random character meets are terrible and to be avoided like the plague (not to be confused with orderly meet'n'greets) I can honestly say hand on heart that I've encountered just as much rudeness and line cutting/queue jumping/parade pushing at WDW as I have at DLP - and thankfully I've not encountered a great deal at either resort - certainly never enough to get het up about it.
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Old 03-20-2013, 01:42 PM   #10
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On my last trip I even experienced line cutting at the ticket booths!
It bothered me beyond believes ...

A couple standing 20 people behind us in line, which were actually next to us in line, because of the line going curves when waiting to buy tickets.
They just started to talk to the couple in front of us (which were basicly next to them, but the gate was in between) (4 people were in front of us, and it took like 30 minutes before it was even our turn to buy 1 ticket).

They asked the couple in front of us what tickets they were getting, and they offered them the bring-a-friend ticket, if they could come and stand with them.

So they cut off about 20 other people behind us who were also waiting to buy tickets.
So, if everyone is going to do this now, and end up in front of you, you can stand there for hours to just buy a ticket o_O
(it already took about 30 minutes that time when there were only 4 in front of us)
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I also don't understand why this is always made out to be so much more of an issue at DLP as opposed to the US parks. Whilst I think we're all in agreement that the random character meets are terrible and to be avoided like the plague (not to be confused with orderly meet'n'greets) I can honestly say hand on heart that I've encountered just as much rudeness and line cutting/queue jumping/parade pushing at WDW as I have at DLP - and thankfully I've not encountered a great deal at either resort - certainly never enough to get het up about it.


Agreed, I was carrying Joshua inside the Disney Store at Downtown Disney WDW when he was 10 months old (just like the picture below!), when this bloke knocked into me almost trying to knock us out of the way.....you get rude people everywhere.
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:23 PM   #12
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Good feedback. As a frequenter of WDW I can say that we've never encountered any line cutters. I only asked as just about any review or article (even my DLP guide book) mentions the "different" attitude of the DLP visitors compared to the other Disney parks. I expect the lack of personal space, but that's something entirely different from jumping the line.

I'll be doing my best to take it in stride.
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:24 AM   #13
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I've been to DLP & WDW & I'm sorry to say I only experience this sort of rudeness in DLP. There was even one instance where my husband and I took our place in front of the castle 4 the nighttime parade & fireworks the usual hour or so before anything started. Had no problem during the parade but once everyone turned to view the fireworks we were being shoved in every direction by ppl who couldn't be bothered to be there on time to get a good spot. We were determined to try to hold onto our spot -without any pushing or shoving only to have 1 of the latecomers who was causing all the issues to start screaming at us and accusing us of pushing and shoving everyone out of the way. I nearly died with embarrassment & all i could manage to yell back was a pathetic line something like 'we've been here since before the parade' We just about managed to hold our ground but to this day I still dread the push & shove fest 4 the parades/fireworks. I hate confrontation so tend to let everyone walk all over me but I get so mad when ppl just can't respect everyone else & wait their turn! Rant over....
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Jill the "star stance" made me laugh, I also do that, with my hands on my hips and elbows sticking out haha! In PM, some kids kept weaving in and out so I leaned on the rails and stretched out. One went flying as they tried to jump (they wasn't young) and Johnny cracked up as he ended up in the doubled backed queue! It was an honest mistake which couldn't be any better if I tried!
But queue hopping is a HUGE gripe of mine, and sorry, if a family member join a the line and then the family tries to join them, you won't get past me. IMHO, if my family have to queue together, then so do they :-)
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:20 AM   #15
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The only line-cutting we experienced on this trip was on our very last ride of the holiday when we went on POTC. Problem with POTC is that in places, the queue line gets so wide and one family decided to use this to their advantage.

They were walking in single-file along the left hand side of the queue line, literally just walking past everyone else who was queueing. The Dad and young son went first and then I stood as far to the left as I could to stop the rest of the family coming through. The woman was far from pleased and just kept literally pushing me to make me move. I managed to stand my ground until she gave up!

In the end the Dad and the boy went on one boat and the mother and the Daughter went on another... so not sure what they really gained there?

It infurates me more when it's families with young children, what kind of example is that to set them?
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