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Old 02-18-2013, 02:48 PM   #1
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Remember When The World Was Going To End...

because alcohol was going to be served in the Magic Kingdom? (http://www.disboards.com/showthread....+magic+kingdom)

Walt was going to spin in his grave. Guests would be hurling in the bushes. Drunken behavior was going to be evident throughout the park and the MK would become "just like Epcot". Well, Be Our Guest has been open for three months now, and alcohol has been served there since opening day. Is the Apocalypse truly upon us? Did the world spin off its access? Has anyone witnessed a material change in demeanor or decorum at the MK? For those of you who have been since November, would you say that the folks who predicted doom overreacted? Or did the folks in favor of the change underappreciate the difference that this would make?
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:00 PM   #2
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:15 PM   #3
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Overreaction.

Not only are the drunken masses not stumbling out of BOG on a nightly basis (or ... really ... at all), apparently wine and beer sales haven't even come close to meeting the the predictions that had been made by the F&B folks.


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Old 02-18-2013, 03:47 PM   #4
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apparently wine and beer sales haven't even come close to meeting the the predictions that had been made by the F&B folks.
Interesting. I wonder if diners just don't feel "right" ordering beer and wine there. With so many higher end restaurants on property that serve beer and wine at dinner, you would think that Disney would have had a fairly easy way of accurately predicting sales.
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Interesting. I wonder if diners just don't feel "right" ordering beer and wine there. With so many higher end restaurants on property that serve beer and wine at dinner, you would think that Disney would have had a fairly easy way of accurately predicting sales.
I think that might have something to do with it. And the fact that it's in a "fairy tale" setting. All the other restaurants that serve alcohol at WDW are "real world" in comparison. Having all the trappings of a fairy tale castle may make people feel as though it's more "kid-friendly" than other places, and so having that extra drink doesn't feel appropriate. Kind of like the difference between having a beer with the family at Chili's vs. having drinks when the family is at CiCis. (Do they serve beer at CiCis?)

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I had 2 beers at Be Our Guest in January. And they were good! Try the Chimay Blue.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:31 AM   #7
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Overreaction.

Not only are the drunken masses not stumbling out of BOG on a nightly basis (or ... really ... at all), apparently wine and beer sales haven't even come close to meeting the the predictions that had been made by the F&B folks.

That is interesting!

A percentage of People overreact to everything. And they tend to be the vocal ones. Complainers so often are.
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Truly never worried that horrible things would happen. However, I've been at World Showcase during Food & Wine when lots of 20-somethings are drinking their way around the world and it's not exactly pretty !!
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WHere is Alcohol served in Magic Kingdom?
What is available?
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beer and wine is served with dinner at Be Our Guest and cannot be taken (legally) out of the restaurant.
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Truly never worried that horrible things would happen. However, I've been at World Showcase during Food & Wine when lots of 20-somethings are drinking their way around the world and it's not exactly pretty !!
As long as they keep things limited the way they do now I don't see a problem developing. I would hate to see things degenerate to World Showcase levels though. It's not just F & W. DD12 and I were there in early Sept. last year and the drunken crowds made her so nervous we had to leave.
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As long as they keep things limited the way they do now I don't see a problem developing. I would hate to see things degenerate to World Showcase levels though. It's not just F & W. DD12 and I were there in early Sept. last year and the drunken crowds made her so nervous we had to leave.
As long as it's only beer and wine, and as long as guests are not allowed to carry their drinks outside BoG, it should be fine.

My family (with me, DW, and 13 & 9 YO DD's) get a little uncomfortable at times during the F&W Festival at EPCOT (our fall break is during this period). This past October we all had to get out of the way of a guy who had a lit cigar in one hand and a drink in the other. He was so drunk he could barely walk straight and his companions weren't much better off. He almost walked into DD9 with his cigar hand. I stepped between them to prevent any collisions. But the drunk guy walked on, oblivious. It's too crowded for CMs to effectively monitor the situation. Unfortunately, the WS has become an area that is not as family-friendly as it used to be, due in most part to F&W Festival, IMO. If drinks could only be consumed inside EPCOT restaurants and not sold in those booths in the middle of the walkways for people to carry around their drinks, things would be much better. As it is, I've become a non-fan of F&W. At least BoG plays by that last rule (beverages have to be consumed with the meal in the restaurant), and that should limit out of control drinking.
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I'd never noticed particular problems with drunken debauchery at EPCOT, either. Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough?
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Unfortunately, the WS has become an area that is not as family-friendly as it used to be, due in most part to F&W Festival, IMO. If drinks could only be consumed inside EPCOT restaurants and not sold in those booths in the middle of the walkways for people to carry around their drinks, things would be much better.
This is the scariest suggestion I have ever read on the DIS.

Taking the free range Wine out of F&W in hopes that you will never again encounter a rude drunk person, is like removing all of the sugar from the Magic Kingdom in hopes that we will never again see another kid hurl.
It simply will not work.
The location of the consumption is irrelevant. People who are rude & drunk in public will be that way regardless of whether they tank up inside La Cava or out. Lucky for us, that most of the people who frequent F&W are food and wine enthusiasts, not raging alcoholics. I am sorry you ran into a moron, but lets not hastily suggest punishments for the majority, based on actions of the minority.

Even though I read many articles and arguments about the BOG alcoholgate before I went. When I finally got there, I honestly forgot that they even served alcohol lol I was there to try the food. Based on sales, maybe I am not the only one.
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As long as they keep things limited the way they do now I don't see a problem developing. I would hate to see things degenerate to World Showcase levels though. It's not just F & W. DD12 and I were there in early Sept. last year and the drunken crowds made her so nervous we had to leave.
I'm genuinely curious, what were the "drunken crowds" doing that made your daughter nervous enough that you had to leave Epcot?
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