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Old 02-12-2013, 10:34 AM   #1
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Progress of the Triumph

Please this is not a opinion of lines thread............no koolaid, disney lovers, carnival can never do wrong, etc.... names. Just information on the progress of the Trumph and the crew and people ouboard.

As of 0800 this morning, the Carnival Triumph is under way to Mobile, Alabama, towed by 2 tugboats, one from the US and one from Mexico. She had a 4.5 degree starboard list. Due to the currents, winds and drift the vessel was closer to Mobile then Progresso and it makes sense not to fight to wind and current to tow her to Mexico.

She has only emergency power, some lighting, water and limite toilets. Food service is limited due to lack of galley power.

The Carnival Elation and Exstacy has transferred food and supplies to the triumph by meand of lifeboats.

She is expected to arrive at Mobile thursday. The port has a unused cruise terminal which will be available to the passingers and likely provide a good berth for the vessel, while the investigation and determination of what repairs will be needed.

The Mobile shipyard is nearby and has a top notch work force.

As I get more I will pass it on.


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Old 02-12-2013, 11:12 AM   #2
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Thanks for that info, I will be following along
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:35 AM   #3
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As of 0800 this morning the Truimph is underway and heading to Mobile. Speed 4 to 9 mile per hour, not knots. No new ETA. still just *thursday*

Seems reports are that she was not closer to Mobile then Progresso when going under tow. ABC report she was 200 NM closer to Progresso then Mobile. I have not found a tracking site with her true position, her tranponder maybe off. If anyone find it please post it.

Please remember the reasons given, for going to mobile, if correct were reasonable, the ocean currents and wind were very much in favor of going to Mobile.

I am sure all everyone has heard of the conditions onboard, which are not nice by a long shot, but expected. Think of your home without power and having a small generator, you need to pick the systems you need/want to power up.

There is a storm expected soon, winds northwest 15 to 20 knots, 4 to 6 foot waves. This will make her roll a bit, but baring unknown issues should NOT be a big problem. May slow the tow down some.

Carnival has stated thery have 1500 hotel rooms ready and have chartered 20 flights from Mobile to Houston.

RUMOURS

There are reports that this latest incident may cause a reduction is the cruise industry growth....maybe cancelation of booked and/or proposed new vessels.

I will keep you advised

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Old 02-13-2013, 02:39 PM   #4
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Latest is a 3rd tugboat is due to meet the Triumph tonight.

I still don't have information on docking, but I would expect they will only proceed up the ship channel and dock during daylight with additional tugboats.

Seem they have canceled cruises until April now. In addtion to the engine and mechcanical repairs, there will be a major clean up and replacement of much of the interior.

Ill keep you all advised.

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Old 02-13-2013, 02:50 PM   #5
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Hoping everyone onboard is okay and hanging in there as best as can do.

Tonka's Skipper, maybe you could answer a question that DH and I were discussing last night.

When a ship loses its power, do the levelers (?? wrong word ?? Things that keep a ship from rocking too much and from tipping) still operate or are they power-run?

We were discussing the situation of just floating out there without any power and the topic of "What keeps the ship upright?" came up. We have no idea and were concerned for those onboard. I appreciate any insight/information anyone with knowledge on this could share.

If this is completely inappropriate on this thread, please forgive me and feel free to delete. I have wanted to ask with concern to Carnival and this seemed like an okay place since it is discussing the status of the ship.

Thanks!

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Old 02-13-2013, 02:55 PM   #6
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That's a good question.

I would also ask if they are unable to change their ballast if they have no power? I can't imagine having no ballast pumps.

I'm not a sea person though so I have no clue if it's a big deal.
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:56 PM   #7
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Fox News just indicated arrival in Mobile should be 1pm - 4pm Thursday.
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As of 0800 this morning the Truimph is underway and heading to Mobile. Speed 4 to 9 mile per hour, not knots. No new ETA. still just *thursday*

Seems reports are that she was not closer to Mobile then Progresso when going under tow. ABC report she was 200 NM closer to Progresso then Mobile. I have not found a tracking site with her true position, her tranponder maybe off. If anyone find it please post it.

Please remember the reasons given, for going to mobile, if correct were reasonable, the ocean currents and wind were very much in favor of going to Mobile.
First a question- you mentioned htey are at a speed of 4 to 9 miles per hour - not knots.

Could you explain how they are related? Like a conversion x miles = y knots

Then a thought-
Whatever the reason they are going to Mobile- it may turn out to be a huge blessing for those involved. Landing on a US port makes the logistics so much easier.

Closer to the original port
Busing to the airport
language spoken
Number of airports available for getting people home
Close to a big city for those that wait for flights

Most importantly- passports that might have been needed for flying back to the US.
Not trying to start an argument on what is or is not needed, just commenting that one thing that would have needed to be accomplished just got taken off the list.

Sorry for what they are going through
Glad that Mobile is waiting with open arms to help them
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First a question- you mentioned htey are at a speed of 4 to 9 miles per hour - not knots.

Could you explain how they are related? Like a conversion x miles = y knots

Then a thought-
Whatever the reason they are going to Mobile- it may turn out to be a huge blessing for those involved. Landing on a US port makes the logistics so much easier.

Closer to the original port
Busing to the airport
language spoken
Number of airports available for getting people home
Close to a big city for those that wait for flights

Most importantly- passports that might have been needed for flying back to the US.
Not trying to start an argument on what is or is not needed, just commenting that one thing that would have needed to be accomplished just got taken off the list.

Sorry for what they are going through
Glad that Mobile is waiting with open arms to help them
A land mile is 5,280 feet long and mph is based on that figure, so if your going 15 mph you cover 60 land miles.

A nautical mile is 6,022 feet long and knots per is based on that figure, so if you moving at 15 knots you cover 15 nautical miles.

Basicly a nautical mile = 1.14 land miles. Not a big difference.


I totally agree, Mobile is the perfect port for this. I am sure that handy shipyard there has been talking to Carnival.

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Old 02-13-2013, 07:20 PM   #10
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I wonder if they can get in and out of their cabins? Do they need electricty for their Key Cards to work?
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Nevermind...I think.
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Old 02-13-2013, 03:29 PM   #12
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Hummmm. Sorry I didn't get it but that's because I didn't get the technical stuff. Why did she list? If she had stayed out there does that mean she would eventually sink?
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Hummmm. Sorry I didn't get it but that's because I didn't get the technical stuff. Why did she list? If she had stayed out there does that mean she would eventually sink?
Wind, waves, possibly current, and lack of forward motion were making her list. No she wouldn't have sunk.

I heard the list was 4.5 degrees at one ponit. Doesn't sound like much, but it's spooky when it does.
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Wow- I really feel for everyone onboard! I hope this whole nightmare of an ordeal is over for them, very soon!
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Wow- I really feel for everyone onboard! I hope this whole nightmare of an ordeal is over for them, very soon!
The many reports coming in are getting to paint a rough and nasty picture on board.However I am sure the media will make it worse then it is.

I am sure the crew to doing everything they can. Sialor are one of the few proffessions where duty is very important. The safety of the vessel, cargo (in this case people) and then themselves come first. If everyone keeps thier cool they can make the best of a bad situation. The most important thing is everyone is safe.

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