Do You Have Privacy Concerns about the New MagicBands? - The DIS Discussion Forums

*NikkiBell* · 01-31-2013, 05:50 AM

On this week's show, Pete and members of the team discuss privacy concerns related to the new MagicBand system. What are your thoughts on the topic? How will you use the bands? Do you feel that the cons outweigh the pros?

Mike2023 · 01-31-2013, 09:32 AM

Personally, For my family, I can't think of any cons.

Most of the stuff that can be done with Magicband can be done with your park tickets if disney was to choice to do it. The band at its base is just a new medium to store your ticket/room key information.

There is so much potential, I can't wait to see what they do with it.

LilyWDW · 01-31-2013, 09:39 AM

I have no issues with it.

It is optional.

Also, it is Disney property.

WaltD4Me · 01-31-2013, 09:41 AM

For me, it's a little too soon to tell. I do worry about things like the glitch with the CM not pushing the "clear folio" key. Like Pete said, every new thing has glitches no one thought of.

lugnut33 · 01-31-2013, 09:59 AM

None.

The thing I worry about is them getting smelly during the heat of summer. Yuck.

Mike2023 · 01-31-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lugnut33

None.

The thing I worry about is them getting smelly during the heat of summer. Yuck.

This is a good point. Im hoping they build one into a watch of some sort. There going to have premium options for sure. If one is a watch I'm happy.

Paula Sedley-Burke · 01-31-2013, 10:04 AM

For me being disabled having a wrist band to open my room, enter the park and pay etc without having to keep getting out a ticket, credit card , room key etc is a real bonus. I would be kidding myself as we stay on disney property anyway and charge most items to our room card that they dont already track what we are doing! So I see it as a bonus. It is optional as OP said. I will be trying FP+ for parade for sure!

WebmasterJohn · 01-31-2013, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Paula Sedley-Burke

For me being disabled having a wrist band to open my room, enter the park and pay etc without having to keep getting out a ticket, credit card , room key etc is a real bonus.

Thanks for bringing this perspective to the discussion. It wasn't something I considered and I think it's an awesome benefit for many folks in a similar situation as yours.

SA mom · 01-31-2013, 05:40 PM

Disney already knows all about my trips. They know which park I'm in, they know which fastpasses I use, they know where I'm eating, and what I'm buying.

The only thing that bothers me is what was mentioned on the podcast about a certain key needing to be pushed to end your RFID transaction. I could see that being an issue. That and only getting 3 fastpasses!?!?

*NikkiBell* · 01-31-2013, 06:58 PM

I have 100% no concerns about the MagicBand system. I will use it fully and don't worry about being "tracked." Disney already does that through my credit card purchases and AP use. Besides, this going to make the experience all that more amazing!!!

However, I will make sure that I either use gift cards like I normally do or ask the CMs to push the "Clear Folio" button whenever I make a purchase. I don't want any issues with that.

I did confirm that this was happening with a few CMs last week. Apparently they are working on fixing the issue, but unless the code is re-written so that they don't have to tap a separate button, this will be a potential problem. I'm hoping to get a band in two weeks so I can see how this plays out.

For those interested, here's the thread Pete discussed on this week's show:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3042694

Justin Jett · 02-18-2013, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by WebmasterJohn

Thanks for bringing this perspective to the discussion. It wasn't something I considered and I think it's an awesome benefit for many folks in a similar situation as yours.

AladdinToMy4YO · 03-08-2013, 07:21 AM

As someone who follows privacy issues as part of my job I'm really intrigued with this thread (and others like it). I respect everyone's right for their own opinion but will now throw mine in

When I read from folks that they only see the bands as being like your store loyalty cards I cringe some. We don't know of course for sure but IF Disney used the full extent of this capability (and developed more) then it goes wwwaaayyy beyond the loyalty cards. Someone dug out the FCC filing for this and it was something like 100 meters. So with enough devices spread throughout the park Disney will be able to track movements, "decisions made" (e.g. food bought, time spent standing in front of a certain display in a store and then whether you ultimately buy something, etc.) they will be able to amass this data and use it for future marketing as well as use it "live" to help shift people around the parks.

We love going to Disney and will go but I will be a little conscious of this.

GoofyGraham · 03-16-2013, 10:53 AM

Do you think one roll of cooking foil per person per day will be enough?

I figure that not only will we be able to cover ourselves in foil to make us invisible to the Disney spy machines, it will also save us having to buy ponchos.

StitchesGr8Fan · 01-31-2013, 10:50 AM

My only concern is whether they will sell the info. If it all stays within the Disney family of companies I am fine.

kbsmall84 · 01-31-2013, 11:12 AM

What info would they sell?

01-31-2013, 05:50 AM	#1
NikkiBell Careful with the Cool Whip! LOX IS MY NEMESIS!!! I'm coming off of the plane decked out with a Snooki poof Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 11,020	On this week's show, Pete and members of the team discuss privacy concerns related to the new MagicBand system. What are your thoughts on the topic? How will you use the bands? Do you feel that the cons outweigh the pros? __________________ Nikki DIS Unplugged Forum Moderator & Blogger disboards.com blog.wdwinfo.com 2011 - GC, Swan 2010 - AKLV 2009 - AKLV, DxDP/OKW, DDP 2008 - SSR, PFTS, MNSSHP/AKLV, 1st DVC Trip, DxDP 2007 - PC, MNSSHP 2006-7 - POFQ, Premium DP 2006 - PC 2005 - POFQ, Premium DP 2004 - PC, Silver Plan 1998 - ASMu 1997-94 - Off-Site Last edited by NikkiBell; 01-31-2013 at 11:07 AM.

01-31-2013, 09:32 AM	#2
Mike2023 DIS Veteran Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,135	Personally, For my family, I can't think of any cons. Most of the stuff that can be done with Magicband can be done with your park tickets if disney was to choice to do it. The band at its base is just a new medium to store your ticket/room key information. There is so much potential, I can't wait to see what they do with it. __________________ Check out my Disney Vacation Planning Tools HERE where you can get pdf files for your Phone / iPad / PC / Mac. {1997 - July - CBR (First Trip)}{1999 - July - Off site}{2005 - June - Off site (Honeymoon)}{2006 - May - Off site (1 Year Anniversary)} {2008 - April - AKL (3 Year Anniversary)}{2009 - May - AKL,POLY,POR (4 Year Anniversary/DD first Trip)}{2010 - Jan - BLT,AKV,POLY} {2010 - Oct - BLT,BCV,AKL}{2011 - Aug - AKL}{2012 - Jun - PCC3.0,AKL,BCV}{2013 - May - AKL,DCL} Last edited by Mike2023; 01-31-2013 at 09:41 AM.

01-31-2013, 09:39 AM	#3
LilyWDW Didn't know Disney was so stressful! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 7,106	I have no issues with it. It is optional. Also, it is Disney property. __________________ Message Board Etiquette Rule 1: Read the sticky threads! º Rule 2: Read the whole thread first, then post Rule 3: No comparing apples to monkeys º Rule 4: Yes, this all means YOU "You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway." - Walt Disney

01-31-2013, 09:41 AM	#4
WaltD4Me PS...I tried asking for water cups once I am actually a princess Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: N.E. Ohio Posts: 9,683	For me, it's a little too soon to tell. I do worry about things like the glitch with the CM not pushing the "clear folio" key. Like Pete said, every new thing has glitches no one thought of. __________________ Lisa 1980 Poly, 92' Grand Floridian, Oct 98 Teddy & Doll Convention, Dec 2004 POFQ, May 05 40th Birthday!, May 06 OKW 41st Birthday! May 07 OKW 42nd Birthday! Feb 08 Pirate & Princess Party! Oct. 08 at OKW! 1st Solo Trip May 09! / November 2010 at OKW

01-31-2013, 09:59 AM	#5
lugnut33 DIS Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,720	None. The thing I worry about is them getting smelly during the heat of summer. Yuck. __________________

01-31-2013, 10:04 AM	#7
Paula Sedley-Burke 12 visits and still haven't tried that dole whip... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 1,689	For me being disabled having a wrist band to open my room, enter the park and pay etc without having to keep getting out a ticket, credit card , room key etc is a real bonus. I would be kidding myself as we stay on disney property anyway and charge most items to our room card that they dont already track what we are doing! So I see it as a bonus. It is optional as OP said. I will be trying FP+ for parade for sure! __________________ Dixie Landings 2000, Port Orleans 2008, Saratoga The Springs 2009, Saratoga The Springs 2010, Saratoga The Paddocks 2011, Disney Dream 2011, Saratoga The Grandstand 2012, Disney Dream 2012 , AKL Kidani Village 2013, Saratoga 2013 , Disney Dream 2013, ( Me ) , (DW) Paula

01-31-2013, 05:40 PM	#9
SA mom DIS Veteran Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 509	Disney already knows all about my trips. They know which park I'm in, they know which fastpasses I use, they know where I'm eating, and what I'm buying. The only thing that bothers me is what was mentioned on the podcast about a certain key needing to be pushed to end your RFID transaction. I could see that being an issue. That and only getting 3 fastpasses!?!?

01-31-2013, 06:58 PM	#10
NikkiBell Careful with the Cool Whip! LOX IS MY NEMESIS!!! I'm coming off of the plane decked out with a Snooki poof Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 11,020	I have 100% no concerns about the MagicBand system. I will use it fully and don't worry about being "tracked." Disney already does that through my credit card purchases and AP use. Besides, this going to make the experience all that more amazing!!! However, I will make sure that I either use gift cards like I normally do or ask the CMs to push the "Clear Folio" button whenever I make a purchase. I don't want any issues with that. I did confirm that this was happening with a few CMs last week. Apparently they are working on fixing the issue, but unless the code is re-written so that they don't have to tap a separate button, this will be a potential problem. I'm hoping to get a band in two weeks so I can see how this plays out. For those interested, here's the thread Pete discussed on this week's show: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3042694 __________________ Nikki DIS Unplugged Forum Moderator & Blogger disboards.com blog.wdwinfo.com 2011 - GC, Swan 2010 - AKLV 2009 - AKLV, DxDP/OKW, DDP 2008 - SSR, PFTS, MNSSHP/AKLV, 1st DVC Trip, DxDP 2007 - PC, MNSSHP 2006-7 - POFQ, Premium DP 2006 - PC 2005 - POFQ, Premium DP 2004 - PC, Silver Plan 1998 - ASMu 1997-94 - Off-Site

03-08-2013, 07:21 AM	#12
AladdinToMy4YO Earning My Ears Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas Posts: 34	Magic Bands - Dis getting their investment back+ As someone who follows privacy issues as part of my job I'm really intrigued with this thread (and others like it). I respect everyone's right for their own opinion but will now throw mine in When I read from folks that they only see the bands as being like your store loyalty cards I cringe some. We don't know of course for sure but IF Disney used the full extent of this capability (and developed more) then it goes wwwaaayyy beyond the loyalty cards. Someone dug out the FCC filing for this and it was something like 100 meters. So with enough devices spread throughout the park Disney will be able to track movements, "decisions made" (e.g. food bought, time spent standing in front of a certain display in a store and then whether you ultimately buy something, etc.) they will be able to amass this data and use it for future marketing as well as use it "live" to help shift people around the parks. We love going to Disney and will go but I will be a little conscious of this.

03-16-2013, 10:53 AM	#13
GoofyGraham Earning My Ears Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Colchester, Essex. UK Posts: 69	memo to self: Pack 42 rolls of cooking foil Do you think one roll of cooking foil per person per day will be enough? I figure that not only will we be able to cover ourselves in foil to make us invisible to the Disney spy machines, it will also save us having to buy ponchos. __________________ AllStarMovies July 2001 I-Drive (2 days) Oct 2001 Contemporary Resort (tower) 2003 I-Drive Sep 2005 Saratoga Springs Resort Aug 2010 Saratoga Springs Resort 5th-26th Sept 2011 Old Key West booked, April 15th-29th 2013

01-31-2013, 10:50 AM	#14
StitchesGr8Fan DIS Veteran Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,145	My only concern is whether they will sell the info. If it all stays within the Disney family of companies I am fine. __________________ '86-offsite, '91-Buena Vista Palace, '92-offsite, '97-offsite, '98-Magic Music Days, '06-ASMu, '07-FtW, '09-ASMu,'10-POR,'12-Poly (Honeymoon!)

01-31-2013, 11:12 AM	#15
kbsmall84 Earning My Ears Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 7	What info would they sell?

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