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Old 01-24-2013, 09:53 AM   #1
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Surprised by how difficult the low sodium issue is!

As a frequent visitor and HUGE fan, I'm disappointed by what I'm learning about low sodium food choices in Disney World. Since my last visit, I've found that I have high blood pressure and that requires a low sodium diet. Since its so common, its surprising that its not easier to plan for. I understand that someone can mention a low sodium preference when making a reservation and/or when at a dining location but I feel that so much that could be done to make it easier for those of us who must restrict sodium. It would be great if Disney would, for example, put together a list of restaurant locations that are well prepared for low sodium requests and/or have one or two low sodium selections on the menu (counter service as well as sit down) at at least one location in each park.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:00 AM   #2
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As a frequent visitor and HUGE fan, I'm disappointed by what I'm learning about low sodium food choices in Disney World. Since my last visit, I've found that I have high blood pressure and that requires a low sodium diet. Since its so common, its surprising that its not easier to plan for. I understand that someone can mention a low sodium preference when making a reservation and/or when at a dining location but I feel that so much that could be done to make it easier for those of us who must restrict sodium. It would be great if Disney would, for example, put together a list of restaurant locations that are well prepared for low sodium requests and/or have one or two low sodium selections on the menu (counter service as well as sit down) at at least one location in each park.
I'm sure everyone who has one kind of dietary restriction or another would like the same thing. But do you honestly expect Disney to do this for everyone?. A list for low sodium. A list for gluten free. A list for diabetics. A list for high potassium. A list for low carb. A list for high protein. A list for those allergic to nuts. A list for........... see the problem? You are the one with the restriction. It's your job to let Disney know what that restriction is when you have a TS ADR. And it's your job to do look at menus in advance if necessary. And it's your job to ask for the ingredient book if necessary at the CS spots. Disney already goes above and beyond what most other theme parks do. They cannot possibly cater to every possible dietary restriction out there.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:45 AM   #3
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I'm sure everyone who has one kind of dietary restriction or another would like the same thing. But do you honestly expect Disney to do this for everyone?. A list for low sodium. A list for gluten free. A list for diabetics. A list for high potassium. A list for low carb. A list for high protein. A list for those allergic to nuts. A list for........... see the problem? You are the one with the restriction. It's your job to let Disney know what that restriction is when you have a TS ADR. And it's your job to do look at menus in advance if necessary. And it's your job to ask for the ingredient book if necessary at the CS spots. Disney already goes above and beyond what most other theme parks do. They cannot possibly cater to every possible dietary restriction out there.
Omigosh .... you're kidding, right? No need to be so unpleasant.

But, to topic, no I don't see the problem that you see. Besides, since hypertension affects 1 out of 3 Americans under the age of 55 and 1 out of 2 Americans over the age of 55, that is hardly "catering to every possible dietary restriction out there". Far more people are supposed to be on a low sodium diet than any other dietary need or request out there.

I've been to WDW over 100 times and I read the menus frequently since I'm a chef and food is of such interest to me. I like to see the changes and updates before a visit. Knowing alot about food preparation and restaurant procedure in general, I can tell you that reading the menu will not give much information on sodium levels.

I understand that this is not an area where you would like to be helpful and that is certainly ok, but perhaps someone else would. Maybe someone has a personal experience with this topic at a dining location that would be helpful to share with those of us hoping for more info. Thx so much!
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:43 AM   #4
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Unfortunately this is not just at WDW but at many, many restaurants everywhere especially chains. I recall my dh had high blood pressure a few yrs back and we were getting very strict with sodium so I'd look up the nutritional facts of many of the restaurants in our area, even the "healthy" choices were loaded with sodium (like grilled fish, chicken breast, etc), some are naturally high in sodium and then adding salt makes it worse, all dishes well over 1500 2000 mgs of sodium and that was just the main dish.

WDW does have special dishes/etc that cater to a variety of health/special diet issues, you need to note that when making your ADRs. Not sure what the options are but just something to keep in mind.
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Omigosh .... you're kidding, right? No need to be so unpleasant.

But, to topic, no I don't see the problem that you see. Besides, since hypertension affects 1 out of 3 Americans under the age of 55 and 1 out of 2 Americans over the age of 55, that is hardly "catering to every possible dietary restriction out there". Far more people are supposed to be on a low sodium diet than any other dietary need or request out there.

I've been to WDW over 100 times and I read the menus frequently since I'm a chef and food is of such interest to me. I like to see the changes and updates before a visit. Knowing alot about food preparation and restaurant procedure in general, I can tell you that reading the menu will not give much information on sodium levels.

I understand that this is not an area where you would like to be helpful and that is certainly ok, but perhaps someone else would. Maybe someone has a personal experience with this topic at a dining location that would be helpful to share with those of us hoping for more info. Thx so much!
You have a great attitude! I just had to say that. I don't have any experience with the low sodium diet, but I do have experience with dietary restrictions at WDW. I'm sure at most table service (not buffet) the chefs will be able to make you something you can eat. As for quick service, might be harder. Good luck!
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:31 AM   #6
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Some very good points here and I agree with you. And a thank you for that very kind compliment! It is true that many people ignore the doctor's directions to follow a low sodium plan and that may well be one of the reasons that it is not a little easier (such as marking an item on the menu) or why so many people have high blood pressure. I'm not positive but I believe the guideline to mark something low sodium is by a comparison percentage to a like item, same as the guidelines to mark something as lowfat. That would make a good search for after work! The healthy or lowfat options, such as a grilled chicken breast, are often higher in sodium that the full fat counterpart because salt and fat (heaven help us all) both taste delicious and if one is lowered, the other is often upped to compensate for flavor.

Any feedback from others on where they did well with a low sodium meal would be much appreciated. So far, I have noted that for counter service, Columbia Harbor House and Sunshine Seasons look like good possibilities and I'm thinking that any sit down restaurant with a good selection of fish is a good pick. Since fish is so delicate, you can't prep it too far ahead and many items in a restaurant are half way there before you even arrive. I enjoy fish but would rather not eat it every day though!
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I'm sure everyone who has one kind of dietary restriction or another would like the same thing. But do you honestly expect Disney to do this for everyone?. A list for low sodium. A list for gluten free. A list for diabetics. A list for high potassium. A list for low carb. A list for high protein. A list for those allergic to nuts. A list for........... see the problem? You are the one with the restriction. It's your job to let Disney know what that restriction is when you have a TS ADR. And it's your job to do look at menus in advance if necessary. And it's your job to ask for the ingredient book if necessary at the CS spots. Disney already goes above and beyond what most other theme parks do. They cannot possibly cater to every possible dietary restriction out there.
While I wouldn't have said it quite this way, I agree with the sentiment. Disney would get requests for all kinds of lists of places safe for various restrictions. And since menus change from time to time, it would be almost impossible to keep current with everything restaurant and every food at every park and every resort.

I understand about hypertension and the affect on adults. My husband has high blood pressure and have been on a low sodium diet for quite a while. But he's on vacation so just takes his meds and watches out as much as he can. Fortunately, his hypertension is controllable via the diet he follows 51 weeks a year and his meds.
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All Walt Disney World restaurants which accept reservations can accommodate lifestyle dietary needs associated with restrictions or lifestyle choices. These include but are not limited to no sugar added, low fat, low sodium, low carbohydrate, vegetarian and vegan.

Most Lifestyle Dietary needs at Disney Dinner shows can be accommodated if ordered at least 24 hours in advance by calling 407-WDW-DINE. Please alert the reservation agent to all needs and which member(s) of the dining party they refer to. In some instances, further communication with the dinner show dining location may be required to ensure best service.

For all Full Service restaurants, Guests should advise their server at the location upon being seated. Most Quick Service locations offer a menu variety that will accommodate most lifestyle dining options. Guests can refer to their Theme Park guidemaps for locations marked with the "red apple" symbol.


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Old 01-26-2013, 08:02 AM   #9
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I'm sure everyone who has one kind of dietary restriction or another would like the same thing. But do you honestly expect Disney to do this for everyone?. A list for low sodium. A list for gluten free. A list for diabetics. A list for high potassium. A list for low carb. A list for high protein. A list for those allergic to nuts. A list for........... see the problem? You are the one with the restriction. It's your job to let Disney know what that restriction is when you have a TS ADR. And it's your job to do look at menus in advance if necessary. And it's your job to ask for the ingredient book if necessary at the CS spots. Disney already goes above and beyond what most other theme parks do. They cannot possibly cater to every possible dietary restriction out there.
Perfectly said..
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:04 AM   #10
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I'm sure everyone who has one kind of dietary restriction or another would like the same thing. But do you honestly expect Disney to do this for everyone?. A list for low sodium. A list for gluten free. A list for diabetics. A list for high potassium. A list for low carb. A list for high protein. A list for those allergic to nuts. A list for........... see the problem? You are the one with the restriction. It's your job to let Disney know what that restriction is when you have a TS ADR. And it's your job to do look at menus in advance if necessary. And it's your job to ask for the ingredient book if necessary at the CS spots. Disney already goes above and beyond what most other theme parks do. They cannot possibly cater to every possible dietary restriction out there.
Yup, this. There's constant opsts about people with with allergies (dairy, egg, nuts). People that need to eat gluten free etc. If I am eating a certain way I tend to bring most foods myself and research the menus.
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Yup, this. There's constant opsts about people with with allergies (dairy, egg, nuts). People that need to eat gluten free etc. If I am eating a certain way I tend to bring most foods myself and research the menus.
It's hard to research menus when there is no nutritional information easily available. Even McDonald's offers nutritional lists. Considering all the people who visit WDW, with varying health concerns, it just seems logical that they would as well.
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It's hard to research menus when there is no nutritional information easily available. Even McDonald's offers nutritional lists. Considering all the people who visit WDW, with varying health concerns, it just seems logical that they would as well.
This is exactly the point that is being missed by those who post and say ask for a chef's visit. If the nutritional information were made available then people could plan better.

No one is asking for special treatment for their particular ailment, the general consensus is that if Disney made the nutritional information available then people can make smarter choices.

The argument that Disney changes the menu so much is full of hot air. McDonalds doesn't always serve the McRib but they sure make the info available all the time. There are also some standards that never changes. Casey's will always have hot dogs and flame tree will always have ribs. There would be a mutiny if Le Cellier didn't have cheddar cheese soup and lord help us if Mickey Waffles went away. Those standards could easily be made available.
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Yup, this. There's constant opsts about people with with allergies (dairy, egg, nuts). People that need to eat gluten free etc. If I am eating a certain way I tend to bring most foods myself and research the menus.
No matter how hard I try, I can't imagine having an objection to helping someone else out, especially if it created no problems for me. What, I would be upset that my stir fry is cooked in canola oil instead of peanut oil since Susie is allergic to peanuts and I'm not? If I'm not gluten sensitive, I can't order a gluten free platter and still enjoy it? Or order a roll on the side? And if the description of a low sodium platter appealed to me but I wanted my food salty, I, like most people, could figure out how to use the salt shaker.

Again, again, again, researching the menus does not help with low sodium. Again.

I don't usually bring my own food on vacation and I'm betting most people prefer not to. And I'll bet you the farm that Disney prefers that people don't either.

While low sodium items are just starting to become available in restaurants and packaged goods, the likelihood is that it will only expand just like the availability of low fat items. Both represent a leading cause to the number one killer in America. These things take time and I intend to stay with it. It took a long time with smoking too but it was still the right thing to do.
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At TS restaurants, you can absolutely request that the chef prepare your food low sodium. Some things can't be done (if meat's already been marinated, sauces can't be altered, casserole/single dish meals can't be altered as they're generally premade, etc) but chefs can absolutely prepare low sodium dishes.

The problem with low sodium foods at CS locations is that very (and I mean VERY) few people would want the low sodium options (most with hypertension ignore the recommendation to go low sodium) because quick prepared food that works for CS typically needs the sodium to make it taste good. Also, whose definition of low sodium do they go by? Many people say that they want low sodium but some need SIGNIFICANTLY lower sodium than others so if Disney labels something as low sodium, what benchmark does it need to meet? What if somebody else needs lower than that but is counting on that label to keep them safe? Unfortunately, when you have any kind of medical dietary need, you really do need to speak with a chef or manager to make sure that your needs are met. Yes this takes more effort, but try to think of it from the perspective of Disney is trying to make sure that your medical needs are fully met even if it does mean more work. Your health is worth that. This is coming from somebody who never gets CS food in less than 20 minutes from the time I place my order and that's after having waited for a manager and taking time scouring a binder to be sure that what I'm ordering is safe (in our case it's allergies, not low sodium).

minnie_mum, Disney does provide lists for each of the top 8 allergens. No need to jump down somebody's throat for asking a question or pointing out a frustrating experience.
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This has certainly been frustrating and I'm sure that there is no rational reason for people to become absurdly unpleasant at all ..... let alone over a good idea.

Check the stats on our country's obesity rates (number one in the world), heart disease, diabetes, hypertension, and the most recent that the new generation will be the first to have a shorter life span than their parents. Check the fat, calories, and sodium level in the average fast food meal before suggesting again that I am some kind of primadonna for wanting a handful of options. It's not like I'm asking for all meals at all locations to be within the recommended guidelines for calories, fat, salt, and sugar.
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