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Old 01-20-2013, 10:18 AM   #1
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asthmatic kids and smoking

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I'm trying to play our first trip as a family of six. Oy. We've got a couple of coughers and wheezers and really need to avoid cigarette smoke as much as possible.

I've been reading in various spaces that smoking poolside is ok at the DVC resorts like Old Key West and Saratoga Springs, but prohibited in the Values/Moderates/Deluxe regular resorts? Is there any truth to this?

The villas are really what we need in terms of group size, but we can't be in a place where smoking is permitted at the pool. Not trying to start a debate or insult smokers, it's just a medical issue and I prefer not to be surprised or deal with crying kids because we can't allow them to go swimming. That would suck.
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Hi,
I'm trying to play our first trip as a family of six. Oy. We've got a couple of coughers and wheezers and really need to avoid cigarette smoke as much as possible.

I've been reading in various spaces that smoking poolside is ok at the DVC resorts like Old Key West and Saratoga Springs, but prohibited in the Values/Moderates/Deluxe regular resorts? Is there any truth to this?

The villas are really what we need in terms of group size, but we can't be in a place where smoking is permitted at the pool. Not trying to start a debate or insult smokers, it's just a medical issue and I prefer not to be surprised or deal with crying kids because we can't allow them to go swimming. That would suck.
Smoking is only permitted in designated areas at any park or resort. Check out resort maps like at allears and just don't sit near those areas. If someone is smoking where they shouldn't be, alert a lifeguard and let them deal with it.

But I've never heard of the DVC resorts to allow smoking at the pools.
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:03 AM   #3
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Absolutely!

My kids' triggers' are smoking, and flora. The biggest culprit was ok the last trip but his asthma has gotten worse in the last two years. We don't go anywhere without the portable neb anymore :-/

I read the bit about smoking at the DVC pools on tripadvisor, several people complained about it. Who knows how legitimate of a source that is, you know?
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Right now I'm trying to stay away from the Art of Animation and other value resorts. They seem to be the furthest from the parks and have the most unreliable bus service over all. If we need to beat a hasty retreat to an airconditioned room for a neb treatment, I don't want to have to wait half an hour for a bus, if that makes sense.
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If you decide to stay for any firework show, make sure you check which way the wind is blowing. I have asthma too, and one year I was standing in the wrong place to watch Illuminations. Ending up having to use my inhaler a lot over the next couple of days.
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Right now I'm trying to stay away from the Art of Animation and other value resorts. They seem to be the furthest from the parks and have the most unreliable bus service over all. If we need to beat a hasty retreat to an airconditioned room for a neb treatment, I don't want to have to wait half an hour for a bus, if that makes sense.
It's just not true that the values have unreliable bus service. I've stayed in every level if resort and have not been able to discern any difference in bus service.
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It's just not true that the values have unreliable bus service. I've stayed in every level if resort and have not been able to discern any difference in bus service.
I'll agree. The other nice thing about Pop Century in particular is that it has it's own dedicated bus, and only one stop so it is actually *quicker* than some of the other buses which share between two resorts, or for a resort which has multiple internal stops
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It's just not true that the values have unreliable bus service. I've stayed in every level if resort and have not been able to discern any difference in bus service.
I agree! I've stayed at all levels as well and have found that the bus service you get solely depends on your luck or bus "mojo" that day/ trip then it does on what level you are staying. I would never base my decision on where to stay based on what somebody says their bus service was on their trip as yours will probably be completely different.

As someone whose daughter ended up visiting the ER (not at WDW) because of her asthma, I would definitely bring the neb with you.
If you want more info. about the best way to go about it, you may want to ask over at the disABIILITIES board.
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It's just not true that the values have unreliable bus service. I've stayed in every level if resort and have not been able to discern any difference in bus service.
Agree...I think out of as many stays that we have stayed, POR had the worst busing of ANY. Now we have only been there once, so dont know if its the norm. But can say the values had fine busing for us, and we have stayed in them over 15X. Waited for a HS bus at POR for almost an hour in April (not easter week either).
On another note, the one thing I notice every trip is the CM's DO NOT enforce smoking areas. You will have to complain for them to do anything. We just get a map and circle the smoking areas so we are aware. Now we have memorized where they are and avoid them. The most annoying is when they smoke as they are walking, you will pass 3 CM's who say nothing.
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Right now I'm trying to stay away from the Art of Animation and other value resorts. They seem to be the furthest from the parks and have the most unreliable bus service over all. If we need to beat a hasty retreat to an airconditioned room for a neb treatment, I don't want to have to wait half an hour for a bus, if that makes sense.
While I haven't stayed at Arts of Animation, I have stayed at all three All Stars and Pop Century - the latter most of the time. I have waited twenty minutes for a bus ONCE in about 10 trips to those resorts. And that bus was just because one had just pulled out in the morning. Most of the time, it's ten minutes or less. If that.

If your child has an attack while in a park, make sure you know where the First Aid Stations are and head there immediately. Don't try and get yourself back to your resort on your own. Grab a Cast Member and tell them you have a medical emergency. They will get you the help you need right away.
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First aid doesn't have nebulizers you can use. They will store yours, and give you a place to use it.

Also, one advantage that Pop/AoA have in terms of bus service - the bus stops at parks tend to be adjacent to each other, but they don't have combined bus service. We would occasionally take an AoA bus if it came first, then walk to Pop, because our room was near the bridge.
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Absolutely!

My kids' triggers' are smoking, and flora. The biggest culprit was ok the last trip but his asthma has gotten worse in the last two years. We don't go anywhere without the portable neb anymore :-/

I read the bit about smoking at the DVC pools on tripadvisor, several people complained about it. Who knows how legitimate of a source that is, you know?
Honestly I find tripadvisor to be full of people who didn't do their homework and had expectations that were not possible to fulfill. I would say that there was most likely a smoking section near the pool and that people sat near it without knowing. Just have an idea of where the smoking sections are and avoid them.
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No, you can't just smoke anywhere at the OKW and Saratoga Springs pools. There are designated smoking areas.
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Right now I'm trying to stay away from the Art of Animation and other value resorts. They seem to be the furthest from the parks and have the most unreliable bus service over all. If we need to beat a hasty retreat to an airconditioned room for a neb treatment, I don't want to have to wait half an hour for a bus, if that makes sense.
You could budget for the occasional cab ride.

Serious question...do they not prescribe simple inhalers for children? I tend towards asthma, and have since college (though it was mainly in effect while pregnant and when I stupidly thought I could be an indoor cat owner), and I've had a nebulizer treatment exactly ONCE, when tremendously sick (and I don't even know that it was necessary...I have a feeling that a simple inhaler would have worked, but I hadn't had an attack in a long time and didn't have a rescue or steroid inhaler). Other than that it's just inhalers. Wouldn't that be safer, to have a plain rescue inhaler with you in your park bag in case of emergency?



And I don't trust the people on TA for even a second. Just from what they post about DisneyLAND hotels I know that they've just about all lost their minds.
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I would bring extra cash for a cab if you need to get back to any resort extra quick. The values have great bus service most if the time and I would not count the new AOA out. A family suite may be perfect for your family and it is a brand new resort. Most of the smoking sections are down by the lake and NOT near the pools.

One more thing a taxi ride on property anywhere is usually less than $25 and can be way less depending on where you are.

My husband smokes and I do not and I just looked up the smoking areas before we left. You could do it to avoid them...I do it to tell him where to go....lol!
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