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 01-19-2013, 11:22 PM #1 sunnydays28 Mouseketeer   Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 350 Is this math correct? I don't think we are doing the dining plan, but ran the numbers just in case. We are mom, dad and child staying for 8 nights off season: 8 x \$55.xx = \$440 x 2 = \$880 8 x \$17.xx = \$136 \$880 + \$136 = \$1016 Correct? That is unbelievable to me, there is no way, even a vacation, that we would spend \$55/day on food for the adults and absolutely not \$17 on my daughter. Granted we are only doing 2 character meals and are not into fancy food or restaurants, but I have been to WDW before and do not recall any of the food being that expensive, so why do people use the DP? I am truly curious how this is a cheaper, easier way to buy meals.
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 01-25-2013, 08:15 AM #3 davedmaine DIS Veteran   Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,447 [QUOTE=disneybliss2;47245108] We also like having the dining plan so that we can book up to 10 meals at one time. That's nice being able to set your reservations all at once. We look forward to eating at a TS meal each night so the meal/dining plan has worked for us in the past. QUOTE] You don't need the DDP to book reservations..
 01-20-2013, 12:29 AM #4 WizardLarz DIS Veteran     Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: St. Louis,MO Posts: 1,171 Alway run the Numbers I always advise people to check menus and run the numbers. Just 5 years ago the DDP was a good value at only \$38 per day. Now \$55 is hard to do unless you do the higher cost but not Signature restaurants. __________________ '88 Off Site -only two parks '00 Off Site '08 Fort Wilderness Campgrounds (Yes,I realy used a tent!) '09 Pop Century '10 Boardwalk Villas SWW '11 Pop F&W '11 Pop Century Mars Preview '12 Pop Century(hey it's cheap) SWW '12 Pop Century (yes Again) 2010 PRT "I'm off to see the Mickey! The wonderfull cool Mouse! http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2383922
 01-20-2013, 12:40 AM #5 danicaca Mouseketeer     Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 372 I did not think it would be a good deal, but when I ran the numbers, we will save about \$200 using the ddp. So even if we don't order the most expensive meals at each place, we should still come out ahead. Now when DD8 turns 10, I am thinking it won't be a good deal for us. The best way to decide is to look at the menus. We decided where we want to eat, looked at the menus, figured out what everyone would order, and priced it out. Plus, my DH does not have to worry about what he is ordering. He would hate to "have" to pick the cheapest item on the menu if that is not what he wants. __________________ My very first PTR! We are finally going back, and no, we are NOT driving! A May/June 2013 PTR Trip report in progress: Disney for 11 days, but won't you get bored? A May/June 2013 Trip Report Me 37 DH 40 DD8 DD5 No countdown for now, but a trip in December of this year or perhaps next is in the works - woo hoo!
 01-20-2013, 12:58 PM #7 julie4423 Mouseketeer   Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 334 If you're only planning to do a couple sit down meals, the DP wouldn't be a good choice for you. If you plan to have one every day, it very likely is. If you haven't been in awhile, you might want to check the menus. Prices have indeed gone up EVERYWHERE. You need to get at least a rough plan of where you want to eat, look at the menus, and price it out to really have an answer. The prices make my chest hurt when I'm ordering at the world, so it removes stress for me as well.
01-20-2013, 01:36 PM   #8
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OP - it's just different for everyone. My family eats a sit down breakfast/dinner each night. The DXDP ends up saving us a couple hundred bucks not including any snack credits we'd use. Just depends how you eat. We also got a discounted DP which helps with the cost versus OOP.

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Yes, you are charged tax. Tax is included with a DP credit.
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 Originally Posted by aaarcher86 Yes, you are charged tax. Tax is included with a DP credit.

Ok, so my \$80 savings paying OOP just went away. Meaning, we can eat using the dining plan cheaper and get more food (extra desserts, snacks, and my daughter, who will be 10, could always order from adult menu. While I don't think she'll always want that portion size, it will expand the options that I know she'll want).

Wow, I'm surprised that after running the numbers that even with the crazy, high price of the dining plan I'm money ahead using it.

Out of curiosity, what is the tax % charge? Thanks!

 01-23-2013, 10:42 PM #10 tinkerpea DIS Veteran     Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: RAF Henlow England Posts: 1,758 Well I can tell you why we use the DDP The 1st ye we stayed on site nearly all of our money was spent on food! Lol we didn't know about the DDP as even though I had done Disney many times I'd never stayed on site! And this time our kids was only 1,1,3 lol. The next time we paid for DDP as it was our wedding and honeymoon we didn't want to worry about prices of food and wanted to eat out every night/day, I kept our receipts and even though we never used up all our snacks ( we took home over 30 gifts) the total in food price was inane most meals we went to that was just normal TS cost us at least \$150 just for the TS meal not including signatures The next trip we did 3 wks and got the DDP free as we stayed at AKL therw was a few nights where my mum would have the boys and hubby & I would eat at signatures those meals alone just for 2 cost us over \$100 and every character meal we did came to around \$300 for the 6 of us No way with out the Dining plan could we afford to do any of the restaurants the tips cost us enough without even adding in the meal price lol! If you think you can eat QS for the whole trip for each meal then you might ....only might get away with it being reasonable but for us although we have had some fab QS meals like sunshine seasons and wolf gang puck it's not enough I need my TS meals and I enjoy the signatures and so for us no matter the cost we will ALWAYS get the Plan free or not!! __________________ Me 28,DH 32,DS 10, DS"Twins"8
 01-25-2013, 08:11 AM #11 davedmaine DIS Veteran   Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,447 What happened is Disney played a beautiful long game. They gave the DDP away for free for years while they continued to raise the price. Now when most people make reservations, they think they should add (pay for) the dining plan. That's all they've ever heard people talk about and it became part of the collective planning psyche. The truth is that there are very, very few scenarios now where anyone could come out ahead. And don't use those spreadsheets; there's never been once that's been proven accurate (i.e. not taking into account that you're going to be paying a lot more in tips on the dining plan than you would be OOP) Last edited by davedmaine; 01-25-2013 at 08:23 AM.
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 Originally Posted by davedmaine What happened is Disney played a beautiful long game. They gave the DDP away for free for years while they continued to raise the price. Now when most people make reservations, they think they should add (pay for) the dining plan. That's all they've ever heard people talk about and it became part of the collective planning psyche. The truth is that there are very, very few scenarios now where anyone could come out ahead. And don't use those spreadsheets; there's never been once that's been proven accurate (i.e. not taking into account that you're going to be paying a lot more in tips on the dining plan than you would be OOP)
There are people who spend more buying the dinning plan. There are people who spend less. It does work to the advantage for some. It does not work for everyone. Nothing does. I figured our costs using menus, not a calculator and I know for certain it helps us to use the dining plan. Do we save a lot of money? No we do not. We break even or maybe save \$100. But we do not spend more. Of that I am certain. And you need to consider the "cost" of peace of mind. For some that's worth quite a lot
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 Originally Posted by AngiTN There are people who spend more buying the dinning plan. There are people who spend less. It does work to the advantage for some. It does not work for everyone. Nothing does. I figured our costs using menus, not a calculator and I know for certain it helps us to use the dining plan. Do we save a lot of money? No we do not. We break even or maybe save \$100. But we do not spend more. Of that I am certain. And you need to consider the "cost" of peace of mind. For some that's worth quite a lot
We are lucky enough to eat in a way that comes out ahead on the Deluxe plan. We came out hundreds of dollars ahead on a 10 night trip last summer. I kept the receipts and figured it out after we got back, just to make sure it was worth it. We do all meals TS and a daily signature, always get appetizers and desserts, generally tip well, and we do the same when we pay OOP. With the new pricing for this year, it's a lot closer, but we decided if we project it to be anywhere close, we'd do the Deluxe plan again for the convenience of it.
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 01-26-2013, 12:17 AM #14 sunnydays28 Mouseketeer   Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 350 Thanks for all the input. We have looked at almost all the menus for restaurants that would interest us and other than maybe adding hoop dee do or the luau, we are going to be very content with snacks or counter service. We have no interest in doing a TS type meal every day, we are going to be easily under \$700 so there is no way we will need the DDP. We will address the allergies at each of the 2-3 TS we will have, we have done that before and they are extremely helpful and yummy. But snacks would be a total waste for us--other than the fresh fruit, which we will have ourselves there is not a snack she can have.

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