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Old 01-17-2013, 06:35 PM   #1
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Edge and 11 year olds?

We just got back from a cruise where dd10 reports not really enjoying the Oceaneer Lab as much as usual. She didn't spend much time there and, while she briefly connected with one girl, didn't really make many friends...usually she makes plenty. The issue seems to be that so many of the children were really, really young....so the older kids sort of stopped coming.

For much of the time the 3 year olds were intermixing with the 10 year olds in the Lab....meaning that the games weren't challenging/fun for the older kids and much of the CM attention had to be focused on tending to younger children.

Also, we noted that many times there were these huge blocks of time that were "open houses" that for the most part meant that that particularly side of the club had limited programming---thus all of the kids of all ages ended up on the opposite side from the "open house"? What's the purpose of all these open houses throughout the week? I can see a few in the beginning while children acclimate, but after that.....let the CM do their thing--at least on the Lab side.

Anyway, we are headed out on an Alaskan cruise in June and she will have just turned 11. We are wondering how the 11 year olds fit in at the Edge? She went to one of the "out and about" activities that was in the Edge from 8-12 year olds---but it was half-way through the week--so she didn't know anyone and the others had sort of found their groups. Also, I think she felt awkward since the CM's asked them to leave the Edge as soon as the activity ended (and it ended early--so we weren't expecting her to be done yet)--like they weren't really welcome.

So...how do other 11 year olds adjust to moving from the Lab to the Edge? Especially on their own? We'll be traveling with just our family--so her sister will still be in the Lab.
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We just got back from a cruise where dd10 reports not really enjoying the Oceaneer Lab as much as usual. She didn't spend much time there and, while she briefly connected with one girl, didn't really make many friends...usually she makes plenty. The issue seems to be that so many of the children were really, really young....so the older kids sort of stopped coming.

For much of the time the 3 year olds were intermixing with the 10 year olds in the Lab....meaning that the games weren't challenging/fun for the older kids and much of the CM attention had to be focused on tending to younger children.

Also, we noted that many times there were these huge blocks of time that were "open houses" that for the most part meant that that particularly side of the club had limited programming---thus all of the kids of all ages ended up on the opposite side from the "open house"? What's the purpose of all these open houses throughout the week? I can see a few in the beginning while children acclimate, but after that.....let the CM do their thing--at least on the Lab side.

Anyway, we are headed out on an Alaskan cruise in June and she will have just turned 11. We are wondering how the 11 year olds fit in at the Edge? She went to one of the "out and about" activities that was in the Edge from 8-12 year olds---but it was half-way through the week--so she didn't know anyone and the others had sort of found their groups. Also, I think she felt awkward since the CM's asked them to leave the Edge as soon as the activity ended (and it ended early--so we weren't expecting her to be done yet)--like they weren't really welcome.

So...how do other 11 year olds adjust to moving from the Lab to the Edge? Especially on their own? We'll be traveling with just our family--so her sister will still be in the Lab.
The ages for the Club/Lab is 3-12, while Edge is 11-14. The overlap ages being 11-12. As you know your child best, it's kinda up to you where you think they will fit in the best.

DCL built in the overlaps because of guest comments about having hard ages to move from one club to the next.

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Old 01-17-2013, 06:48 PM   #3
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As difficult as it may be, try to figure out which club your child may be interested in, and go the first night when the CM's go over the possible activities. Perform recon prior to dinner. The kids seem to create clicks/groups at this time. Later it's more difficult to break into said groups.
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From recent reports, they have been letting 10 yos into the Edge -- which may be the reason there weren't many 10 or 11 yos in the lab your cruise. If your DD goes to the Edge the first night after dinner/show she will meet many of the kids who will be there. Also get involved in the meet thread for your cruise and have her contact others her age before the cruise. DD12 is now in touch with 6 kids who will be in the Edge with her via email and facetime. She can't wait to meet everyone onboard.
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Can a child go back and forth? I have a son who will be 12 and one who will 9....can my older boy pick where he wants to be?

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Can a child go back and forth? I have a son who will be 12 and one who will 9....can my older boy pick where he wants to be?

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The official answer is no, a child needs to pick which club they will be going in. That seems to vary depending on how many kids are on each cruise with enforcement. On our last cruise on the Fantasy the mother of the 10 1/2+ yo we were with had to sign a paper allowing her child to go to the Edge also. That has been required for kids being moved up to the Vibe as well.
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The official answer is no, a child needs to pick which club they will be going in. That seems to vary depending on how many kids are on each cruise with enforcement. On our last cruise on the Fantasy the mother of the 10 1/2+ yo we were with had to sign a paper allowing her child to go to the Edge also. That has been required for kids being moved up to the Vibe as well.
Has this changed? Because shoreside concierge told me my DD could go back and forth? She turns 11 in Feb (our cruise is in April). I was told that DD could go with her 3 siblings one day and to the Edge the next. I really hope so. I don't know how much she is going to want to be in the Edge, but I would love it if she could keep an eye on the younger set as I have one who will probably cry at drop off if her big sis isn't there with her. (Of course I could not have her go, but I think she would be happy if big DD was there and that would allow DH and I to at least have dinner at Palo one night!)
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Also, you have to be 10 for the Edge, right? DS will turn 10 on April 24, but our cruise is April 16-20th so he will be a tad shy of 10, so he CAN'T go with his big sister, right? Thx.
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Also, you have to be 10 for the Edge, right? DS will turn 10 on April 24, but our cruise is April 16-20th so he will be a tad shy of 10, so he CAN'T go with his big sister, right? Thx.
Officially, the EDGE is for 11-14. There are reports of 10-yr-olds allowed to move up but don't expect it to happen, particularly if not quite 10 yet.

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Has this changed? Because shoreside concierge told me my DD could go back and forth? She turns 11 in Feb (our cruise is in April). I was told that DD could go with her 3 siblings one day and to the Edge the next. I really hope so. I don't know how much she is going to want to be in the Edge, but I would love it if she could keep an eye on the younger set as I have one who will probably cry at drop off if her big sis isn't there with her. (Of course I could not have her go, but I think she would be happy if big DD was there and that would allow DH and I to at least have dinner at Palo one night!)
Unfortunately there is mis-information provided shoreside. While it MAY be allowed for a child in the overlap to utilize both club spaces (in this case, Lab and Edge) - it is not guaranteed. For every poster who has indicated their child was allowed back-and-forth, there's a poster who will report their child had to make a choice and stick with it. The recommendation is that if your child MIGHT like the Edge, then he/she should attend the meeting on the first night when the programming for the cruise is discussed and planned. After that, if he/she doesn't like what was discussed/planned, he/she can opt down to the lower Club/Lab. If they miss this planning session, they may feel left out and not make good connection with the others.

Essentially, don't expect any age child will be allowed access to multiple kids clubs. It may be allowed based on the capacity and demographics of your particular cruise, but it may not.

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Unfortunately there is mis-information provided shoreside. While it MAY be allowed for a child in the overlap to utilize both club spaces (in this case, Lab and Edge) - it is not guaranteed. For every poster who has indicated their child was allowed back-and-forth, there's a poster who will report their child had to make a choice and stick with it. The recommendation is that if your child MIGHT like the Edge, then he/she should attend the meeting on the first night when the programming for the cruise is discussed and planned. After that, if he/she doesn't like what was discussed/planned, he/she can opt down to the lower Club/Lab. If they miss this planning session, they may feel left out and not make good connection with the others.

Essentially, don't expect any age child will be allowed access to multiple kids clubs. It may be allowed based on the capacity and demographics of your particular cruise, but it may not.

Enjoy your cruise!
Thank you for the heads up on that and for letting me know about the almost 10 year olds! I am thinking I might just have her pick OC/OL this time. That way they are together. I am not sure how much time any of them will really be in there but I would hate it if she wanted to be with her siblings at some point during the trip, and then couldn't because she picked the Edge to be in. Luckily she is pretty mellow and likes most younger kid stuff. I just thought it sounded nice to know she could choice on a given day but that sounds like I probably got misinformed. OR that it COULD happen but also could not. I am thankful to know that now so we can be prepared. Thanks again.
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Unfortunately there is mis-information provided shoreside. While it MAY be allowed for a child in the overlap to utilize both club spaces (in this case, Lab and Edge) - it is not guaranteed. For every poster who has indicated their child was allowed back-and-forth, there's a poster who will report their child had to make a choice and stick with it. The recommendation is that if your child MIGHT like the Edge, then he/she should attend the meeting on the first night when the programming for the cruise is discussed and planned. After that, if he/she doesn't like what was discussed/planned, he/she can opt down to the lower Club/Lab. If they miss this planning session, they may feel left out and not make good connection with the others.

Essentially, don't expect any age child will be allowed access to multiple kids clubs. It may be allowed based on the capacity and demographics of your particular cruise, but it may not.

Enjoy your cruise!
Last August on the Dream, my then DS11.5 wasn't sure about Edge (nor were we). So we went in steps - First Lab, then added check in/out. By the 2nd day he wanted to try Edge, so he did, and he enjoyed it and had a blast.

All this time, he kept his wristband in case he wanted to go back to Lab. We asked about this, and were told there was no problem.

He never went back to Lab in the end, except for the last day to return the wristband...

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There was a 10 yr old checking into edge in front of us on the fantasy last week. They were telling him he could do lab/club or edge. Either one. They also told my 13 yr old that if I signed a consent form he could go to vibe, which I didn't expect because I thought you had to be 14.

I told him he could go to vibe if he wanted, but he chose to stay & do the edge stuff and not try out vibe.
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There was a 10 yr old checking into edge in front of us on the fantasy last week. They were telling him he could do lab/club or edge. Either one. They also told my 13 yr old that if I signed a consent form he could go to vibe, which I didn't expect because I thought you had to be 14.

I told him he could go to vibe if he wanted, but he chose to stay & do the edge stuff and not try out vibe.
REALLY hoping that they have too many kids on our spring break cruise to let the 10 yos in the Edge!!! DS14 really wants to go to the Edge, and he is in the posted age group for it, but if there are a bunch of 10 yos running around that will probably change.
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REALLY hoping that they have too many kids on our spring break cruise to let the 10 yos in the Edge!!! DS14 really wants to go to the Edge, and he is in the posted age group for it, but if there are a bunch of 10 yos running around that will probably change.
Unfortunately, my 10 year old feels the same way about the Lab -- doesn't want to be in a place where a bunch of 3 year olds are running around (much bigger age difference than 10 to 14). So, he will probably be asking to move up into the Edge so that he can be with kids closer to his own age. His 12 year old sister will also be in the Edge, which will help at the beginning, though I am sure they will make their own friends and move in different circles once things get going.

Hopefully, your 14 year old will find friends his own age and be able to ignore the fact that younger kids are there too.

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