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Old 11-23-2012, 06:18 PM   #1
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The public has spoken with their wallets. They want businesses open on Thanksgiving Day. People are saying, "if you don't want to work on Thanksgiving Day, find another job." They are saying, "be thankful you have a job." I guess I am in the minority, but I refuse to shop on Thanksgiving Day. Yes, there are things that have to be open, hospitals, pharmacies, and I totally understand that -- my daughter is an RN.

If your boss, no matter where you work, retail or not, said you had to work on Thanksgiving Day (and you are not in one of those places that have to be open such as a hospital), would you work; would you refuse to work; would you be looking for another job? My personal feeling is, that in the next 10 years, Thanksgiving (and even Christmas) will be just another work day or even school day. And I find that sad.
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:33 PM   #2
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I have been reading these open thanksgiving day and Black Friday posts and I completely agree with you. I fortunately have a job that gets 11 paid holidays per year and I have 4 weeks of vacation so I will never work on thanksgiving or Christmas. I will NEVER shop on one of those holidays either. I believe holidays are to be with family and not about material things. Don't get me wrong, I like nice things and like to shop but I have different priorities than the people who want to get the deals.

I think it is very sad that this is what is important in our society, but the way I deal with it is to ignore it. I don't watch commercials on the holidays because I can't stand the ads for the sales. Don't read the flyers in the newspaper either.

To each their own, but I would much rather spend the holiday with family all cozy in my house, enjoying good company and food and no one will ever change my mind, not even for a 99 cent tv!

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Old 11-23-2012, 06:58 PM   #3
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I agree w/ both of you OP's.

Now, if you accept a retail job such as at Walmart, shouldn't you accept that Thanksgiving day will be a work day and you could be scheduled.::yes

I live in a very urban area. Our Walmart's are open 24 hrs and would not have closed and opened at Midnight anyway so not sure what the "real complaint was". ( there was a peaceful demonstration).

Do I believe the worker's have a valid complaint? probably
Unfortunately, as more people disrespect the holidays, 24/7 will become the absolute expectation EVERWHERE

No thank you.

And I should feel like a heel because I've been to WDW twice over T-day and everyone there was required to "work".
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:04 PM   #4
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I agree w/ both of you OP's.

Now, if you accept a retail job such as at Walmart, shouldn't you accept that Thanksgiving day will be a work day and you could be scheduled.::yes

I live in a very urban area. Our Walmart's are open 24 hrs and would not have closed and opened at Midnight anyway so not sure what the "real complaint was". ( there was a peaceful demonstration).

Do I believe the worker's have a valid complaint? probably
Unfortunately, as more people disrespect the holidays, 24/7 will become the absolute expectation EVERWHERE

No thank you.

And I should feel like a heel because I've been to WDW twice over T-day and everyone there was required to "work".
Because of the high unemployment rate, so many people have accepted retail jobs because they have no other choice. I am a good example. I am 61 years old and have worked my entire life. In July I was laid off from my job with a builder and have been unable to find another full time job. In the meantime, I have taken a part time retail job (not at Walmart). I would have been devastated to find out that I had to work on Thanksgiving Day.
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:18 PM   #5
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I wonder if any of these people complaining (not the posters in the thread, per se) about businesses being open on Thanksgiving or Christmas have ever planned a trip to Walt Disney World over those holidays?
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:31 PM   #6
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No shopping last night but our family went to a movie. This isn't anything new either, we've been going to movies on Thanksgiving and Christmas night for decades.

It's kind of ironic to me that movie theatre employees have worked major holidays for so long without any of this fuss but as soon as Walmart tries it all heck breaks loose.
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Old 11-23-2012, 08:03 PM   #7
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33 consecutive Thanksgivings and Day after Thanksgivings worked for me. At least that many for DW since she worked in a movie theater in high school and college, which Thanksgiving and the day after also were work days.
Certainly not life or death jobs for us, but just comes with the territory. Our kids grew up with the Thanksgiving feast being on the Saturday after, no big deal. Shouldn't be a big deal for retail workers IMHO. Since we are at work when all the big bargains are offered, we can't go shopping even if we want to.
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Old 11-24-2012, 05:35 PM   #8
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No shopping last night but our family went to a movie. This isn't anything new either, we've been going to movies on Thanksgiving and Christmas night for decades.

It's kind of ironic to me that movie theatre employees have worked major holidays for so long without any of this fuss but as soon as Walmart tries it all heck breaks loose.
I have been saying the same thing for days. I worked at a movie theater in both High School and college (well over 25 years ago), and we were open on both holidays. And yes, I worked both. Even though i was still living at home, no fuss was make by me or my parents. It was what it was, and we adjusted our holiday accordingly. I don't understand why all of the fuss NOW, when other companies have been open on holidays for years.

And since this is a Disney board, how many Cast Members work Thanksgiving and/or Christmas so that others can enjoy a nice family vacation for their holiday????
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:57 PM   #9
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I wonder if any of these people complaining (not the posters in the thread, per se) about businesses being open on Thanksgiving or Christmas have ever planned a trip to Walt Disney World over those holidays?
not only disney, what about fire fighters, cops, doctors, public transportation operators and so on...
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not only disney, what about fire fighters, cops, doctors, public transportation operators and so on...
Firefighters, cops, doctors, etc are providing essential services. Walmart, Target, Macy's, etc are NOT.

I've seen a lot of people making comments the last few days about not being upset about working a holiday if you accept a job known for working on a holiday. I agree with that, but here's the catch: All those stores (pharmacies are excluded here) have only recently started opening on Thanksgiving. This was not the norm when many people who are in these jobs began there.

I worked retail for 6 years while going through school. Today was the first day in years where I did not have to go near a store on Black Friday. And I didn't. I slept in, did some online shopping, and went out to lunch. Having worked Black Friday, I hate retail on that day. It's pure insanity and truly brings out the worst in people. The only time I was ever threatened while working was on Black Friday. There is NO reason to make that hell even earlier in the evening, and cut into holidays. Retail employees get very few holidays off; let them have the traditional ones off.

Since it seems like people think shopping in the middle of the night is fun, I think retailers open up the night between Black Friday and Saturday. Then there's no holiday interference, and people get their night of no sleep.
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If I was scheduled to work Thanksgiving day it wouldn't be a big deal. My mother is a nurse and growing up we always just adapted to her schedule for whatever holiday it was. I think most people just adapt to their working situation and it isn't a big deal for them. For some reason it seems like most of the people complaining about stores being open and people having to work on Thanksgiving are people who don't even have to work themselves.
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I give thanks every year that Dunkin Donuts is open on Thanksgiving!
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:16 PM   #13
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The public has spoken with their wallets. They want businesses open on Thanksgiving Day. People are saying, "if you don't want to work on Thanksgiving Day, find another job." They are saying, "be thankful you have a job." I guess I am in the minority, but I refuse to shop on Thanksgiving Day. Yes, there are things that have to be open, hospitals, pharmacies, and I totally understand that -- my daughter is an RN.
Actually the public spoke, but you're attempting to put words in their mouth they didn't utter. They said they want a bargain. Nothing more. And they've gone for that bargain just the same back in the days when it started at 8 am Friday, 5am Friday, 4am Friday, or midnight. The public isn't going to buy an extra TV because they got one Thursday at 8pm instead of Friday at 5am. All opening Thanksgiving does is shift some shoppers from one time to another and cost all the stores more in electricity and the like. But once K-mart stated opening on Thursdays, I knew it was just a matter of time before they all did. When one store does it, it benefits them. That is until they all do it too and then all it does is cost em all more to stay open the extra hours.
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I am one who refused to shop on Thanksgiving day. I just don't find shopping essential. I also took note of who remained closed and shopped those retailers over the weekend. Sure, I paid a little more, but I would rather support those retailers while they still exist. While chose to shop, and that is their right, I prefer to spend the time with my family.
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I wonder if any of these people complaining (not the posters in the thread, per se) about businesses being open on Thanksgiving or Christmas have ever planned a trip to Walt Disney World over those holidays?
Oh but that is different I am sure

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No shopping last night but our family went to a movie. This isn't anything new either, we've been going to movies on Thanksgiving and Christmas night for decades.

It's kind of ironic to me that movie theatre employees have worked major holidays for so long without any of this fuss but as soon as Walmart tries it all heck breaks loose.
Hypocritical if you ask me..if anyone has gone anywhere but their own home and have never used a service on a holiday than they can talk. But if anyone has run out because they forgot an item, the roasting pan broke, they needed gas, they went to the movies or rented a movie, they ate elsewhere or they watched TV, or even called the cable company that day, than they are hypocritical IMHO.

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I try and try but can't see the difference between stores and other businesses such as theaters and restaurants being open. I guess that it's really just a matter of personal preference.
There isnt any difference. Like I stated above, where is the outrage against the gas stations, the movie theaters, the NFL, the bars, the restaurants, the country clubs.

And in all these threads I keep seeing Walmart mentioned, well wasnt Target and ToysRUs open too, why dont I see those names mentioned


And just for the record...I dont shop on Thanskgiving or Black Friday, it is not worth it to me. You can barely get me out on the days leading up to Christmas I hate shopping so much but if customers will shop then stores will be open. I am sure there was much outrage when shopping was allowed on Sundays finally. And there are plenty of other holidays that now have places open that never did before.

Times have changed, if you dont want to shop then dont, if the retailers dont have it work out they will close it is that simple. But then I hope you also dont run to any other stores or theaters, or you dont go out to eat anywhere but home or watch football so all those nonessential people can be home with their families too
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