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Old 11-16-2012, 08:10 AM   #1
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Hostess is Toast

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Old 11-16-2012, 08:12 AM   #2
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How sad What a horrible time for all of those employee to be out of work
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:14 AM   #3
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Very sad. Not that I eat Twinkies anymore! But seems like a piece of Americana gone. Now I'm kind of in the mood for a Twinkie. Or Yodel (they make Yodels, right?)
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:20 AM   #4
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We just don't buy that stuff. All three of us know how to bake and it's really easy to stir up a batter, drop it on some parchment and bake great treats for the cost of half a box of whatever Hostess or their competitors makes. Homemade doesn't have preservatives, trans fats, HFCS. Don't do it Patience; she won't even remember but your hips will! :\
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:25 AM   #5
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Very sad. Not that I eat Twinkies anymore! But seems like a piece of Americana gone. Now I'm kind of in the mood for a Twinkie. Or Yodel (they make Yodels, right?)
Drake's makes Yodels. Hostess makes something similar.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:50 AM   #6
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Drake's makes Yodels. Hostess makes something similar.
Drakes is owned by Hostess.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:56 AM   #7
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It's definitely sad for the workers but I don't think it will be the end of hostess products. They will be selling the assets and chances are Twinkies and other favorites will be picked up by other companies and they will still be produced just under another brand name
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:15 AM   #8
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I don't buy Hostess products, but it's a very sad thing for 18,000 people to lose their jobs ~ especially right before Christmas.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:18 AM   #9
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Very sad for all the workers and their families.

I don't think my 5 year old has ever had a Twinkie. I think I will buy a box today and let her try one before it's too late.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:40 AM   #10
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Very sad for all the workers and their families.

I don't think my 5 year old has ever had a Twinkie. I think I will buy a box today and let her try one before it's too late.
While you don't like to see people lose their jobs, sometimes they have no one but themselves to blame for that. As a company, Hostess was in trouble. The union workers knew that, but instead of working with Hostess to try and work out a deal that would help keep Hostess open and keep people in jobs, they didn't so now there are no jobs, instead of a number of jobs at a lesser wage.

I just don't get why people have a hard time understanding, a little of something is a whole lot better than nothing.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:12 AM   #11
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While you don't like to see people lose their jobs, sometimes they have no one but themselves to blame for that. As a company, Hostess was in trouble. The union workers knew that, but instead of working with Hostess to try and work out a deal that would help keep Hostess open and keep people in jobs, they didn't so now there are no jobs, instead of a number of jobs at a lesser wage.

I just don't get why people have a hard time understanding, a little of something is a whole lot better than nothing.
Yup, the Teamsters recognized the issues & agreed to the wage cuts, but the baker's union wouldn't. Now they're all unemployed. My instinct is they will emerge from bankrupcy with an all non-union staff making less than half of what they made before. Those 17% cuts don't look so bad now
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:47 AM   #12
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While you don't like to see people lose their jobs, sometimes they have no one but themselves to blame for that. As a company, Hostess was in trouble. The union workers knew that, but instead of working with Hostess to try and work out a deal that would help keep Hostess open and keep people in jobs, they didn't so now there are no jobs, instead of a number of jobs at a lesser wage.

I just don't get why people have a hard time understanding, a little of something is a whole lot better than nothing.

Striking when your company is already in financial trouble, really wasn't going to have a good ending for them. It was a very short-sighted move on their part.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:52 AM   #13
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While you don't like to see people lose their jobs, sometimes they have no one but themselves to blame for that. As a company, Hostess was in trouble. The union workers knew that, but instead of working with Hostess to try and work out a deal that would help keep Hostess open and keep people in jobs, they didn't so now there are no jobs, instead of a number of jobs at a lesser wage.

I just don't get why people have a hard time understanding, a little of something is a whole lot better than nothing.
So does Capitalism need some Socialism to survive? Doesn't everyone have the right to try and fight for what is best for themselves?
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:54 AM   #14
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So does Capitalism need some Socialism to survive? Doesn't everyone have the right to try and fight for what is best for themselves?
Capitalism is everyone fighting for what's best for themselves. Socialism is fighting for a common good. At least, that's how it's SUPPOSED to work.
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While you don't like to see people lose their jobs, sometimes they have no one but themselves to blame for that. As a company, Hostess was in trouble. The union workers knew that, but instead of working with Hostess to try and work out a deal that would help keep Hostess open and keep people in jobs, they didn't so now there are no jobs, instead of a number of jobs at a lesser wage.

I just don't get why people have a hard time understanding, a little of something is a whole lot better than nothing.
Exactly. I think the union is largely to blame in this. I wonder how many of the workers would have rather settled than have it come to this? No matter what the differences between the company's proposals and the unions demands, wouldn't a JOB have been better than this?

The company called their bluff. I wonder if we'll start hearing this more now?

(For the record, I belong to a union, and we have been working without a contract since April 1, 2011)
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