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Old 11-15-2012, 01:22 AM   #1
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Toddler will be almost 3... too old for Nursery...

We are going on the April 6th Fantasy. Our youngest boy will be 2, but turns 3 April 28. Anyone familiar with the policies regarding this? He enjoyed the Nursery a year ago... but I know he would be bored by this April.
I think I remember the CM say it would be okay to register him for the Oceaneer's club... but not clear.

And what about potty training? Thank you in advance!
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:58 AM   #2
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You won't be able to preregister him for the club, but when you are onboard you can do so. The CM's will observe him to make sure he can hold his own, and if he does ok , they will register him. He does need to be potty trained. That will be a great incentive for him!
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:05 AM   #3
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I have an *almost* 3 year old as well. From what I have been told, the cm's can't help them in the bathroom...they have to be able to go potty all on their own. If your ds can, it shouldn't be a problem to put him in the club instead of the nursery. We cruise in a couple of weeks and I am sooooo hoping this info is correct.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:32 AM   #4
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The info from the above posters is what I have seen posted multiple times on these and other boards. Unfortunately, even if your child is 3 if they are not completely self sufficient in their bathroom needs they will be unable to use the clubs during secured activities. From what I understand this means that they will not get reminders to go to the bathroom, help with their clothing before or after, nor will they get any assistance in the restroom.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:49 AM   #5
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The key here is not the age, it is the potty training. A 3 year old who is not trained goes to the nursery while a 2 1/2 year old who is trained will be welcomed into the Oceaneer's Club.

OK, those are the rules, but set the kid up for success. First, he has to go for you before he can go to the club. Then, don't leave him there long. Come to the Club every 90 minutes or so to check on him and take him to the bathroom while you are there. I'm not saying that you should say he is fully trained when he is not, but kids can get so involved in playing that they "forget." Yes, the CMs do remind the little ones, but a little help from mom goes a long way. And take him to the bathroom in the club the first time you are there so he knows there is one and he can check it out.

Fully trained means able to handle his own clothing--again, make the clothing easy without snaps or buckles.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:28 AM   #6
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Also make sure you are comfortable with the ratios. DD has been fully potty trained since before she was 2. She attends preschool full time where she is able to fully use the bathroom by herself (no help from teachers) and hasn't had any accidents. When we cruised in September the CMs told us that she was ready for the club eventhough she had just turned 2. We sail again in three months and we are still not comfortable with leaving her in the club even if(based on availablity of course) they would let her stay. We don't think she would do well with the older kids in the same room. You know your child best and can only make that decision. But so far (a lot can change in three months) the plan is to take full advantage of open house and family activities and use the nursery for one hour during dinner.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:02 PM   #7
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If he's not potty trained, he can't go to the club unless it's open house and a parent can go with him. They will allow only fully potty trained children to be left in the club, as club CMs will not assist with toilet issues.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:03 AM   #8
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Thank you everyone for your responses! When we went, there were not many 3 year olds in the Nursery... but I can't imagine that every child is perfectly potty trained and clothing independent at 3, or nearly 3. Most 3 year olds are still wearing pull-ups trainers... at least my older son was, in case of an accident. I guess we will see where we are at that particular time. I am hoping he can go... and that he can "pass". (Or pseudo-pass!)
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:27 AM   #9
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Thank you everyone for your responses! When we went, there were not many 3 year olds in the Nursery... but I can't imagine that every child is perfectly potty trained and clothing independent at 3, or nearly 3. Most 3 year olds are still wearing pull-ups trainers... at least my older son was, in case of an accident. I guess we will see where we are at that particular time. I am hoping he can go... and that he can "pass". (Or pseudo-pass!)
No, not all 3 year olds are potty trained, and the ones who aren't can go into Flounder's Reef. Cheating the system is just going to create issues for the CM and your child. There are many many other children in the club who need to be supervised and schedules and supervision of those children is based on the idea that no one CM is going to be taken away for an extended period of time to deal with a potty accident.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:26 AM   #10
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If he's not potty trained, he can't go to the club unless it's open house and a parent can go with him. They will allow only fully potty trained children to be left in the club, as club CMs will not assist with toilet issues.
This wasn't true for us on the Disney Wonder in July.

Our just-turned 3 YO wasn't fully potty trained but is able to tell "teachers" when she needs to go (she consistently goes to preschool). She was allowed in Oceaneer's club. They told us they'd page if she needed to go. She was in regular diapers (non pull ups, as we were working on "cold turkey" method).

She went once or twice to the club (by herself, while we were at Palo and on 2 evenings) but decided on her own it was "too many big kids" for her.

They ended up never calling us to take her to the bathroom. The nursery would have been too boring for her. We started there, but it was clear she was way too old for it.

***We always made sure to take her to the club only after she'd gone to the potty, so that it wouldn't become a huge issue. It never was.
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:29 PM   #11
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This wasn't true for us on the Disney Wonder in July.

Our just-turned 3 YO wasn't fully potty trained but is able to tell "teachers" when she needs to go (she consistently goes to preschool). She was allowed in Oceaneer's club. They told us they'd page if she needed to go. She was in regular diapers (non pull ups, as we were working on "cold turkey" method).

She went once or twice to the club (by herself, while we were at Palo and on 2 evenings) but decided on her own it was "too many big kids" for her.

They ended up never calling us to take her to the bathroom. The nursery would have been too boring for her. We started there, but it was clear she was way too old for it.

***We always made sure to take her to the club only after she'd gone to the potty, so that it wouldn't become a huge issue. It never was.
Thanks for your response! I know that he won't be perfectly potty trained. He can go hours with a dry diaper now, and we are still 6 months out from the cruise. I too am hoping that they would just page me if their was an issue.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:46 AM   #12
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We were just on the magic last week with our four youngest 11, 9, 5 and 3. My daughter turned 3 in August and she is huge for her age with the speech of a 5 yo. That being said she had problems in the club because she was almost always the youngest. It got better at the end of the cruise after many conversations with the CMs and two with the manager of the club. Our other three had a blast in there and we had to drag then out for meals and excursions! . Just keep in mind that your child will probably be the youngest in the club and one of the smallest! FYI the open houses in the club were empty! It would be a great time for your child to play with all the fun stuff in there and you to be there to keep an eye out!
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We were just on the magic last week with our four youngest 11, 9, 5 and 3. My daughter turned 3 in August and she is huge for her age with the speech of a 5 yo. That being said she had problems in the club because she was almost always the youngest. It got better at the end of the cruise after many conversations with the CMs and two with the manager of the club. Our other three had a blast in there and we had to drag then out for meals and excursions! . Just keep in mind that your child will probably be the youngest in the club and one of the smallest! FYI the open houses in the club were empty! It would be a great time for your child to play with all the fun stuff in there and you to be there to keep an eye out!
Just off the Magic last week and we had the same experience with DD. She just turned 3 last month and was fully potty trained. She refused to stay in the Club without me or DH. She wouldn't even stay with her big brother who is 7. We went to almost every Open House we could and she enjoyed it. I really think she was scared with all the older children in there. We ended up having to cancel our Palo reservation. DH and I never got to enjoy any of the adult activities together. So, you never know how a 3 year will react. We were surprised.
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Just off the Magic last week and we had the same experience with DD. She just turned 3 last month and was fully potty trained. She refused to stay in the Club without me or DH. She wouldn't even stay with her big brother who is 7. We went to almost every Open House we could and she enjoyed it. I really think she was scared with all the older children in there. We ended up having to cancel our Palo reservation. DH and I never got to enjoy any of the adult activities together. So, you never know how a 3 year will react. We were surprised.
On our cruise the kids were REALLY rowdy in the club. Most of the older kids were always in the lab so when the younger kids were in the club, it was apparent that there was a group that was rowdy, especially when Peter Pan led the fly (read: trample) around the room. I was surprised at the amount of running they were allowing up and down the slide area. My 3YO is a shy, timid girl. She liked the computers and dress up, but started refusing to get checked in because it was a little overwhelming for her. I did notice that the CMs liked her though, because when they "played" with her they got to sit down alot hehe. I can't imagine running around like Peter Pan does all day long. Poor guy. He was losing his voice at the end of our cruise.

Regarding the diaper issue for the other posters interested in this---We started at the nursery but the CM at the nursery suggested we go to the Club instead since: (1) there were no other kids in the nursery; and (2) they only had "baby" toys. The CM said that the Club CMs will just call us if she needs to be changed.

Every time we dropped her off at the Club we reminded them at check in that she was in diapers but could voice when she needs to go or to get changed. I made sure to lead her to a CM (any CM) was was "free" and then again explained the diaper thing (ie, please call us if she needs to "go" or needs to get changed). They all seemed fine with it. We actually only got texts/calls on the Wave phone when she wanted to get picked up.
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Regarding the diaper issue for the other posters interested in this---We started at the nursery but the CM at the nursery suggested we go to the Club instead since: (1) there were no other kids in the nursery; and (2) they only had "baby" toys. The CM said that the Club CMs will just call us if she needs to be changed.
How such issues are handled can depend on the demographics of a specific cruise - how many children in the nursery, how many in the Club/Lab, etc. On your particular cruise, there may not have been a lot of kids in the club and therefore the CMs were able to accept a younger child who needed to have parents called for pottying. Another cruise may or may not be that flexible. This is the first I've read of actual "diapers" allowed on a child in the club, though I have heard of pull-ups allowed on a case-by-case basis with similar circumstances.
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