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Old 09-24-2012, 11:22 PM   #1
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Use Fort Wilderness for cheap Extra Magic Hours

Please tell me whether there is a critical flaw in this plan.

Some friends we're traveling with -- I don't want to say whether we're related -- plan to use Hilton points to book a hotel near WDW. This of course would exclude them from EMH and they would be at the mercy of their lousy hotel shuttle and/or pay for parking.

Say they'll be there on a Friday with evening EMH at Epcot and a Saturday with morning EMH at DHS. Could they book a single night (Friday) at FW to get access to EMH both days? Just check in early on Friday at 8am and never pitch a tent. Stay for Epcot EMH, go back to the hotel, get up and go to morning EMH at DHS the next day.

Sounds to me like you'd get 4 extra hours at Disney and free parking for 2 days for $60.75.

Am I missing something? Would they have to return to FW on Saturday to check out?

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(Personally I'll be staying at All-Star Music for the free dining plan.)

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Old 09-25-2012, 02:00 AM   #2
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Old 09-25-2012, 06:19 AM   #3
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Could they? Yes, and they would need to check out.

Should they??? They might be knocking some family out of a site that wanted to camp there that weekend. Sites are much harder to come by than rooms at WDW.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:31 AM   #4
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I agree its wrong to take up space that someone else could be looking for.

I don't see that all of that would be worth an $60 in my opinion. Parking a lone would be half that. And the fact that they would physically have to spend time checking in and out would cut into precious time they could be spending at the parks.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:57 AM   #5
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What's legal is not always what's *right*! They would not be the first to do it, and am sure not the last - but as been pointed out someone else may *really need* that site to actually stay in

Also, what's the point in gaining a few extra hours, to only lose them checking in and out?

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Old 09-25-2012, 08:32 AM   #6
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Seems like alot of work, with little benefit.
And, as a person that always stays at Fort Wilderness, and always invests a lot of time to get my reservations, I don't like that it can be done.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:12 AM   #7
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We've booked a site at the fort just for the M.E. (when we were coming into town at all different times from different places) and we were staying at a non-disney hotel.
I told reservations WHY I booked it, when I made the reservation and paid. Additionally, I called the Outpost to let Ft W Managers know as well. So, they didn't hold our site for us and no one was turned away based on our reservation.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:37 AM   #8
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Thumbs up The question wasn't, "Who likes to judge?" It was, "Would this work?"

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I don't see that all of that would be worth an $60 in my opinion. Parking a lone would be half that. And the fact that they would physically have to spend time checking in and out would cut into precious time they could be spending at the parks.
I neglected to mention that there are four people in the party. As you say, parking at the parks for two days would cost $28. $60.75-28.00=$32.75 Split four ways, you're paying about $8 per person to have three extra hours at Epcot when the lines are shorter, and one hour at DHS when lines are probably the shortest. That sounds like it's worth it to me!

Plus I'm not sure how much time this would actually take. If you show up to early check-in at 8am, you can still be at your park by 9am when it opens.

Anyway, in an attempt to settle this in my mind I just called 407-WDW-MAGI to see whether what I was thinking would work -- and like skyp4WDW I mentioned we would just be using it for EMH and free parking. The CM confirmed that with a one-night reservation they would get free parking and EMH for both check-in and check-out dates, and with a credit card for express checkout one would never have to go back after the 8am early "check-in".

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For a few $$ more why not book a room at a value if you really think its a good idea.
The cheapest Value Resort room that night would cost $146.90 -- a difference of $86.15 is not "a few dollars more".
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:48 PM   #9
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Ethics aside (I have my opinion, but it's already been stated), you don't say when you're going. If you're going at a slower time of year, "paying" to get EMH isn't worth it, IMO. The lines are short anyway and if you just get to the park at opening, you'll have no trouble. In that case, your friends would be better off to just pay for the parking and not waste the money or the time (checking in, etc.) on FW. Save the extra $30/$35 for something else.
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:53 PM   #10
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Yes, as the others said, it would work.

As a tent camper who has been told the campground is full at times when there are empty sites open all around me b/c of people who book "throw away" sites, I would like to discourage it. While Disney is getting their money, and your family is getting the service they are paying for, it is rude to deny access to families who genuinely want to enjoy the campground. Those sites fill up quickly, especially weekends. Something to consider . . .
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if it's technically possible and not breaking any disney rules, i don't see why not. i really don't buy into the argument that renting the campsite and not necessarily using it is not proper. If you rent the site, you are allowed to use it or not use it as you see fit as long as you are within Disney's rules.

in the past we did a long trip where we decided mid trip to stay at a friends house in the Orlando area. for convenience we did not check out and then check back in to Disney the next day. we opted to pay for the night at Disney even though we visited friends offsite and stayed at their house overnight.

to me, saying you shouldn't rent a campsite and not stay at it is like saying if you are staying at Disney you must be doing Disney stuff during hte day. it just doesn't make sense.
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:20 PM   #12
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Could they find someone who wants to use it? I don't how hard it would be, but I bet there is a family out there who could really benefit from not having to spend that money. Then the site wouldn't be "wasted". I'm sure someone could be found either by posting somewhere on the internet or even with the help of a travel agent. Just a thought....
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:59 PM   #13
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As a tent camper who has been told the campground is full at times when there are empty sites open all around me b/c of people who book "throw away" sites...
It sounds like it's a feasible plan, then, if people do it that frequently.
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Old 09-25-2012, 06:06 PM   #14
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I believe many on the camping board frown on this practice, so I would suggest we just let this thread die away.

I know I see some posts occasionally on the disabilities board that suggest work-arounds to the system and those threads are quickly ignored and then locked.

Above all, let's not start a debate that could get heated.
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I neglected to mention that there are four people in the party. As you say, parking at the parks for two days would cost $28. $60.75-28.00=$32.75 Split four ways, you're paying about $8 per person to have three extra hours at Epcot when the lines are shorter, and one hour at DHS when lines are probably the shortest. That sounds like it's worth it to me!

Plus I'm not sure how much time this would actually take. If you show up to early check-in at 8am, you can still be at your park by 9am when it opens.

Anyway, in an attempt to settle this in my mind I just called 407-WDW-MAGI to see whether what I was thinking would work -- and like skyp4WDW I mentioned we would just be using it for EMH and free parking. The CM confirmed that with a one-night reservation they would get free parking and EMH for both check-in and check-out dates, and with a credit card for express checkout one would never have to go back after the 8am early "check-in".



The cheapest Value Resort room that night would cost $146.90 -- a difference of $86.15 is not "a few dollars more".

Seems you know its not *right*.......but you want to do it anyway..............so if you pose a snarky issue,you have to expect people to call you on it!

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