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Old 09-24-2012, 10:21 AM   #1
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TOTWL: Before and After

Just curious if the new "test" policy regarding allowing all DVC members, not just those staying at BLT, has had a significant impact upon crowds up there. Anyone been up there under the old rules and new rules that is able to offer any input on how, if at all, things are different?
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:38 AM   #2
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Just curious if the new "test" policy regarding allowing all DVC members, not just those staying at BLT, has had a significant impact upon crowds up there. Anyone been up there under the old rules and new rules that is able to offer any input on how, if at all, things are different?
Based upon my reading of others' posts, I would say crowds have increased to a very moderate degree.

Single before/after experiences are a little dicey because we'll never know if either of those experiences is typical. I've read posts from members who think crowds are noticeably larger while others see no change at all.

Anything can happen on a given day but I can't envision large crowds of members regularly flocking to BLT for the fireworks. DVC has publicly stated that members cannot park at BLT. So you either need to take Disney buses (to MK then 5-10 min walk to BLT) or park at the TTC and use the monorail. My personal take is that if most folks are going to venture that far, they'll just go into the park to view the fireworks.
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:11 AM   #3
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They are coming from other resorts. I was at BLT in August and heard members from other resorts tell the CM who was letting them up which resort they were staying at. I was in the lobby waiting for DH to show up for about an hour and saw about 4 groups from other resorts go up.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:55 AM   #4
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It was definitely busier in July than the previous times we have visited. There were a lot more people that arrived just to see Wishes plus more in the lounge itself. Before when we have been the lounge has only had a few tables being used, in July they were all used. Plus, our server said they have noticed a marked increase.

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Old 09-25-2012, 04:00 AM   #5
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. My personal take is that if most folks are going to venture that far, they'll just go into the park to view the fireworks.
my guess would be it will be very popular during the MNSSHP and MVMCP. when we stayed at BLT on points in sept. we didn't buy the hard ticket for the MNSSHP. and watche d the Hallowwishes from TOWL

(OMG! I feel like I overloaded everyone on acronyms!!!)

I agree that if you aren't staying at a monorail resort you might as well view the fireworks from inside the park..

but sometimes you dont have tickets. our first visit ever, .. back in 92 or 93? our "super duper tickets" didn't kick in till the next day, so we took the kids on a ride on the monorail(bus from CBR to MK) to the poly beach, and watched the fireworks and electric water pagaent from there... a great start for our vacation!!! .(. now they are 30 and 33.. weep weep , cry cry cry.. )

oh, I digress.. ... yes.. I think most DVC members would rather view the fireworks from the park, after the hassle of getting over there... ..EXCEPT>>

when there are special hard ticketed events. I think this fall and winter season will see many more attendees at the TOWL for the special hallowwishes and Christmas wishes.
Paranthetical aside:
I have worked at bars and restaurants for MANY years... I would charge a minimum. DVC owner or not.. you want to view the fireworks? pay a minimum, reddemable for soft drinks, cocktails, food, etc.

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Old 09-25-2012, 01:37 PM   #6
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Interesting, thanks for the input. It doesn't sound like it is getting so busy that BLT folks are getting locked out? Assuming that to be the case, I suppose if it helps keep the lounge open, I'm on board. It was a favorite place of ours on our last trip to unwind at the end of the day and have a cocktail, would hate to lose that.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:07 PM   #7
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Before when we have been the lounge has only had a few tables being used, in July they were all used.
That just goes to illustrate how crowds have always varied from one day to another. When we stayed at BLT and visited the lounge 2 years ago, all of the tables were taken but it was still not anything I would call crowded.

The consensus is that crowds are up a bit on average, but not to any level that is causing folks to be turned away.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:16 PM   #8
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sorry - when I was there just watched the fireworks from my room - for some reason the TV did not play the music...

if the TOWL is busy will miss the times when only a few of us were up there for the fireworks....

still wish that DVC would open it to everyone staying at the BLT - dvc members or not. then would think the lounge would do a better business.

when you have to take the monorial then drive or take a bus back to your resort - how likely are you to drink more than one drink.....

now agree about the lounge if guests are coming into it and not ordering - then yes a fee should be imposed on these guests.

but if they only going to the deck not the lounge (which you can do) - then no fee.
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So is this just a test thing or is it ongoing (I know they can change the rules at anytime of course). We are going soon and I would like to surprise our family staying with us with a trip to that. We are DVC at AKL. There would be 12 of us total.. Can I take that many up? They are all staying on my points and I am going to be there . Are kids allowed? And do I just need my KTTW card that says DVC member or do I need to take our DVC member card also?

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So is this just a test thing or is it ongoing (I know they can change the rules at anytime of course). We are going soon and I would like to surprise our family staying with us with a trip to that. We are DVC at AKL. There would be 12 of us total.. Can I take that many up? They are all staying on my points and I am going to be there . Are kids allowed? And do I just need my KTTW card that says DVC member or do I need to take our DVC member card also?

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This is just a bonus that has been extended through the holidays. The test was over the summer and apparently they liked the results.

If your entire party is staying with you on points, yes you should all be allowed up to the TOTWL as long as it's not at capacity. Children are permitted too, but be aware this is a bar atmosphere and although I saw children up there, really all they do is hang out bored before and after the fireworks. Even during the fireworks I heard at least 2 children complaining about wanting to be IN the magic kingdom during the fireworks. They didn't like that they had to be held to see the MK over the railing.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:38 PM   #11
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So is this just a test thing or is it ongoing (I know they can change the rules at anytime of course). We are going soon and I would like to surprise our family staying with us with a trip to that. We are DVC at AKL. There would be 12 of us total.. Can I take that many up? They are all staying on my points and I am going to be there . Are kids allowed? And do I just need my KTTW card that says DVC member or do I need to take our DVC member card also?

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Right now access is open to all members staying on points at ANY WDW DVC resort through 12/29/12. The end date has already been extended once so that could certainly happen again.

There are no stated limits on the number of individuals who can accompany a member. Children are welcome but the atmosphere is fairly subdued. I remember at least one TV on in the lounge (believe an NFL game was on when we visited) but there is nothing else which would qualify as entertainment.

The indoor lounge accommodates maybe 70-80 with an additional outdoor viewing platform (the roof) with room for a couple hundred. If there's no seating available in the lounge when you arrive, you'll have to go out on the deck. Dress appropriately.

I would suggest bringing both the room key and member ID card. Never hurts to have both.
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Sweet.. the two kids are in double digits, so they understand.. the other little feller is pretty laid back and would be fine on dad's shoulders somewhere out of the way or just being held.. Understand totally about the capacity.. For a MNSSHP night would showing up around 8 probably still be ok for the 930 fireworks?


And this "Dress appropriately" was that more for weather? We are probably going to continue our monorail crawl and send the kids back to the resorts with gma and great gma. But knew if we went without the kids and gma and great gma we would be in TROUBLE>>>>>.
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And this "Dress appropriately" was that more for weather?
Yes. Just worried about temps in case you can't get indoors.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:57 PM   #14
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And do I just need my KTTW card that says DVC member or do I need to take our DVC member card also?

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We went up on July 21, & the CM at the BLT desk wanted to see our blue member card. We were standing in line while she waited on a father & son in front of us. She was explaining something to them (couldn't quite hear) & then I heard her say, "It looks just like that" & pointed to my blue member card that I was holding in my hand. Clearly then, I realized that the pair in front of us wanted to go up, but did not have a clue about what a blue member card is.

I didn't listen anymore & the father & son eventually walked away. I have no idea if they got up or not.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:34 PM   #15
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I was there in the week of August 19-25 and found the lounge unbearably crowded. We were able to get in but because of the crowds and the ages of the people we didn't enjoy ourselves. There were many young kids who were very loud doing belly dives onto a couch (the round one in the center of the room) and trowing toys at each other. I compared this experience to our previous ones and if we see it like this again we will skip the lounge. Previously, it was one of our favorite spots at BLT. I actually contacted the Guest Services after our trip and gave our feedback. We used to love enjoying a few drinks and light snacks at the lounge but this time we couldn't wait to leave. Even when we were watching the fireworks, the kids were yelling things to each other. I politely asked them to lower their voices so everyone could enjoy themselves, but they didn't do anything. Their parents didn't try to hush them either. I feel bad because I know that not all kids behave this way, but it was utterly unbearable and not fitting for the atmosphere. I wish it could be like the nightclubs on DCL where there is an age limit.
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