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Old 09-04-2012, 10:23 PM   #1
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Source: Avatar project for DAK postponed indefinitely

I hope this is true. Actually I hope "postponed indefinitely" changes to "cancelled forever."

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Old 09-04-2012, 10:37 PM   #2
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How can it be "officially delayed" if it's a rumor coming from an Internet magazine?

I was looking forward to it if for no other reason than the possibility of longer hours at AK.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:46 PM   #3
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How can it be "officially delayed" if it's a rumor coming from an Internet magazine?

I was looking forward to it if for no other reason than the possibility of longer hours at AK.

Hopefully the budget will remain and something else will take its place as the central idea in an expansion of DAK.
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:50 AM   #4
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I hope this is true and that they instead decide to do an UP! themed expansion (there is an actual bird that looks like a small version of Kevin by the way).


Would be cool to have this kind of bird there as well.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:09 AM   #5
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Oh I hope this rumor is true. I don't care how much money Avatar made, the movie sucked big time. I hope WDI can come up with something great on a Disney brand like the did here at DCA with Carsland.

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Old 09-05-2012, 06:25 AM   #6
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What is needed is the originally planned Beastly Kingdom!
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I could not agree more.

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Old 09-05-2012, 08:20 AM   #8
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What is needed is the originally planned Beastly Kingdom!
This.

The Wooden Dinosaur coaster that was cut wouldn't be a bad addition either
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:34 AM   #9
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:51 AM   #10
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The problem with Beastly Kingdom is it doesn't have that magic "S": Synergy

It seems clear that Disney was hoping Avatar would bring in "new business"...customers who aren't part of the traditional WDW audience but would take notice of Avatar and/or James Cameron.

That's what Universal got from Harry Potter. The Mummy, The Simpsons, Men in Black, Dr Seuss, Shrek, Spider-Man and many more properties were not enough to get certain people into their parks, but WWoHP was the proverbial tipping point. Millions of new customers responded by opening their wallets.

Beastly Kingdom may have turned out to be a fantastic addition but without any sort of name recognition, it's probably not enough to draw in millions of first-time guests who wouldn't otherwise visit WDW. That's the end result of the economically competitive / social media / smartphone / short attention span society we live in today. Sometimes just being "good" (excellent, superior) isn't good enough.

Personally I've never even watched Avatar. But I was in favor of that project because (IMO) the potential upside warrants a significant investment on Disney's part and Cameron's involvement would all but guarantee high quality. If it's good entertainment, the theme becomes secondary. Even non-fans could still enjoy the experience. Don't think I have ever seen "Song of the South" or "Ichabod and Mr Toad" but Splash Mountain and Mr. Toad's Wild Ride are still worthwhile.

Now if the rumors are to be believed, Disney may be hoping a carbon copy Cars Land provides the synergy and attendance bump they are seeking. Yay....more ride clones.
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The problem with Beastly Kingdom is it doesn't have that magic "S": Synergy
The mistake that a lot of us DISers make is we tend to look at things from our own Disney obsessed point of view. (Myself included there)

If the average person is searching the internet (or watching TV or whatever) and sees "Disney announced Beastly Kingdom (or Australia) expansion for Animal Kingdom", is will most likely not grab their attention. (Meanwhile, the Disboards goes nuts)

But if they see "Disney announces Avatarland (or Star Wars land) they are going to take notice.
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The problem with Beastly Kingdom is it doesn't have that magic "S": Synergy

It seems clear that Disney was hoping Avatar would bring in "new business"...customers who aren't part of the traditional WDW audience but would take notice of Avatar and/or James Cameron.

That's what Universal got from Harry Potter. The Mummy, The Simpsons, Men in Black, Dr Seuss, Shrek, Spider-Man and many more properties were not enough to get certain people into their parks, but WWoHP was the proverbial tipping point. Millions of new customers responded by opening their wallets.

Beastly Kingdom may have turned out to be a fantastic addition but without any sort of name recognition, it's probably not enough to draw in millions of first-time guests who wouldn't otherwise visit WDW. That's the end result of the economically competitive / social media / smartphone / short attention span society we live in today. Sometimes just being "good" (excellent, superior) isn't good enough.

Personally I've never even watched Avatar. But I was in favor of that project because (IMO) the potential upside warrants a significant investment on Disney's part and Cameron's involvement would all but guarantee high quality. If it's good entertainment, the theme becomes secondary. Even non-fans could still enjoy the experience. Don't think I have ever seen "Song of the South" or "Ichabod and Mr Toad" but Splash Mountain and Mr. Toad's Wild Ride are still worthwhile.

Now if the rumors are to be believed, Disney may be hoping a carbon copy Cars Land provides the synergy and attendance bump they are seeking. Yay....more ride clones.
Kudos to reaching a different audience. Personally, I love Disney rides. I was introduced to Disneyland when I was six, and from that time until about 1 year ago, the only movies I saw that had corresponding rides in the park were Peter Pan and Roger Rabbit. I still loved and continue to love all the other rides. I'm planning my first trip to Disneyworld, so I am catching up on all Disney movies via Netflix, which I think may enhance my appreciation for the MK.

In regards to Orlando Studios, I completely agree, and I am one of those that would only go to OS to see Harry Potter land.

Now, Avatarland? I LOVE the movie, and definitely agree that it will appeal to those who aren't traditional Disney lovers. I really hope they come up with something that will appeal to everyone (and I'm sure they will.)
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:20 PM   #13
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What is needed is the originally planned Beastly Kingdom!
YES! Can we start a picket outside of AK? It'd be pro-WDW, so they wouldn't break us up, right?
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:34 PM   #14
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Avatar had a lot of box office dollars, but is nowhere near the obsession HP is. People play quidditch, for crying out loud.

In addition to a lack of concept art I've heard there are 'creative differences' between imagineering and Cameron.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:51 PM   #15
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we posted something on our new site

http://www.jamboeveryone.com/Blog/En...or_Avatar.html

I would love to see an Australia area myself
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