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Old 08-19-2012, 02:17 PM   #1
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Hi All,
Our school year started two weeks ago, but my younger daughter and I have been working on the college process since the end of last year. I've been through this once before, but this time around, it is totally different. My first daughter was all academic: high grades, heavy volunteer work, lots of academic extra curriculars, academic clubs, good test scores...on and on. This time........well........this one is my theatre girl.

She has an active 504 for ADD, math disability, and some visual processing issues. Her grades are going to fall in the 3.0-3.3 average. She has taken "Advanced" classes but no APs. She is a TERRIBLE standardized test taker and never shows her full potential with that at all. She has taken the ACT once, but it was dismal, as expected. She will retake in September and probably again in October.

What's in her favor? She is a technical theatre kid with no performance desires! By the end of this school year, she will have had experience in 19 different (quality) productions in 4 years of high school. Apparently, the fact that she's tech gives her a bit of an edge in the competition for theatre schools. She really only wants a BFA program and would LOVE a true conservatory. Finances are a huge issue as I'm a single mom and a teacher.

I know that for performance majors there is a suggestion of 12+ plus schools since the admittance rate is so low compared to the numbers applying. For tech kids, they usually suggest 6-ish, but we have decided to go with 12 because she wants as many theatre classes as possible and as little core as possible and it will all boil down to money in the end. (I spend tons of time on College Confidential, so a lot of my info comes from those there.)

Yes, I know theatre is a "risky" major. That isn't even a topic for conservation with me. This is her passion, and I will support her in following her dreams. Yes, I realize that some core is a requirement everywhere. However, I have done extensive research into course requirements in all of these schools. The amount of core varies greatly from place to place and degree to degree. She is only interested in a BFA program, but we do have one "safety" BA on the list as a last resort. We are in Georgia, so our choices are along the East Coast, mostly.

So, that brings us to the list:
Conservatories:
Point Park University
SUNY-Purchase
Shenandoah University
Webster University
University of North Carolina School of the Arts

Conservatory Style:
Coastal Carolina University
University of Central Florida
Evansville University
Virginia Commonwealth University

In State:
Columbus State (as close to a really good theatre program as we have here)
Valdosta State (non audition BFA for tech)
West GA (BA....dear LORD don't let this be the school! )

So, what about your high school senior? Have you started the process? Please share as we all go through this together!

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Old 08-19-2012, 02:35 PM   #2
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My daughter is class of 2014 so we don't have a list yet.

I have my undergraduate degree in lighting design from back in the day when women were very rare in this field. I am retired but worked in the field for years. I am surprised that you don't have Carnegie Mellon University or NYU on your list. I know they are very expensive and a bit hard to get into but if your daughter has a good tech resume and maybe a portfolio she should consider these schools. JMHO I also have a friend who did his tech degree at NC school of the arts and he has been steadily employed in the field for 35 years.

Good luck with the process
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Old 08-19-2012, 02:37 PM   #3
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I just want to wish you all well. This year will go FAST! DH and I just dropped DD off for her first year of college yesterday.

My best advice - as it gets close to decision time: have your child make a pros cons grid. When I suggested the idea - it was awful. A couple of weeks later...DD sat down and said she thought it would help if she made a pros cons grid. About 5 minutes later...there was a very clear decision!

If I could dissect the year - Application time is coming up quick...as well as any college tours that remain to be done...then there is the FAFSA process...and then scholarship apps - going right into AP exam time then Graduation Day.
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:33 PM   #4
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I want to comment on this:

"Yes, I know theatre is a "risky" major. That isn't even a topic for conservation with me. This is her passion, and I will support her in following her dreams."

I know there are a lot of people on the DIS who will disagree with you on this, but I'm not one of them. I don't want my kids to be 40 and miserable b/c they didn't at least try what they loved most.

One idea for your daughter if she ends up at a BA school... We took our youngest to college yesterday. He will be working on a BA in dramatic art in a liberal arts environment and his intention is to do a conservatory study abroad program. He's not looked into it much but has already uncovered one in Ireland.
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:37 PM   #5
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I'm all for tech but echoing another poster... I think the list is lacking. I get NYU may be a reach or an issue but still... also Marymount is known for their theatre dept., including the tech.

I may be prejudiced but I just can't see not being in the City if this is what she wants and it's at all possible. It may not be what ends up happening but there isn't a single City school on your list....
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:12 PM   #6
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If you want to look further south, University of Houston is supposed to have a good Theater Arts program.

My DD started her senior year of HS this past week. She is looking mostly at state schools due to finances. She wants to study Broadcast Production or something along those lines. She really has a choice between a small university that runs a PBS tv station or a Community college that has a program leading to some sort of technical certificate. The actual media part seems to be the same, but she is leaning (with my push) toward the university so that she can get a degree on the chance that she changes her mind later. If we still lived in Texas, she would probably end up in the RTV program (radio and television or what ever they are calling it now) at university of Houston.
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:21 PM   #7
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Hi ugadog! I think we were on the 2009 thread together!!!!!!

I am in a reverse situation than in 2009. My DD, in 2009, had the low GPA, bad test scores, ADD issues, all sorts of things. That college application process was depressing.

This time I've got my son. His GPA is in the 3.8-4.1 range, he likes math, does good to average on standardized testing, and is toying with the idea of engineering. We live in Virgina.

His top choice is Virginia Tech but I fear his grades/scores won't be competitive enough for the engineering department.

His second choice is JMU but he won't do engineering there at all. He will go there and choose a different type of major.

If he is stuck on engineering, he can get in-state rates an West Virginia University if he takes their mechanical/aerospace engineering degree. While the school doesn't have the reputation of VA Tech, we have very impressed with their engineering school.

Last choice is George Mason University, which is about 30 minutes from our home. He would live there, though, if he went.

We may add some new schools in between--just not sure yet. Better get on the ball.

As for your DD, my DD's friend when to school for theater technical lighting. She went to Penn State and loves it there.
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:29 PM   #8
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Finances are a huge issue as I'm a single mom and a teacher.
This line worries me, as many parents report getting very little in the way of $ for BFA programs. Most of the schools on your list don't meet full need, do they? Her stats are unlikely to make her a candidate for much merit money at most schools.

Is she HOPE eligible?

Have you had the "what we can realistically afford" conversation with your daughter? You probably already know this already, but having a safety that you can afford and that she likes is very important.

Could you possibly find a way to make GSU or Kennesaw State work? That way she would have access to all the opportunities in Atlanta. Kennesaw State has new dorms and has really involved into a true university vs a commuter school.
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:26 PM   #9
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Hi All,
Our school year started two weeks ago, but my younger daughter and I have been working on the college process since the end of last year. I've been through this once before, but this time around, it is totally different. My first daughter was all academic: high grades, heavy volunteer work, lots of academic extra curriculars, academic clubs, good test scores...on and on. This time........well........this one is my theatre girl.

She has an active 504 for ADD, math disability, and some visual processing issues. Her grades are going to fall in the 3.0-3.3 average. She has taken "Advanced" classes but no APs. She is a TERRIBLE standardized test taker and never shows her full potential with that at all. She has taken the ACT once, but it was dismal, as expected. She will retake in September and probably again in October.

What's in her favor? She is a technical theatre kid with no performance desires! By the end of this school year, she will have had experience in 19 different (quality) productions in 4 years of high school. Apparently, the fact that she's tech gives her a bit of an edge in the competition for theatre schools. She really only wants a BFA program and would LOVE a true conservatory. Finances are a huge issue as I'm a single mom and a teacher.

I know that for performance majors there is a suggestion of 12+ plus schools since the admittance rate is so low compared to the numbers applying. For tech kids, they usually suggest 6-ish, but we have decided to go with 12 because she wants as many theatre classes as possible and as little core as possible and it will all boil down to money in the end. (I spend tons of time on College Confidential, so a lot of my info comes from those there.)

Yes, I know theatre is a "risky" major. That isn't even a topic for conservation with me. This is her passion, and I will support her in following her dreams. Yes, I realize that some core is a requirement everywhere. However, I have done extensive research into course requirements in all of these schools. The amount of core varies greatly from place to place and degree to degree. She is only interested in a BFA program, but we do have one "safety" BA on the list as a last resort. We are in Georgia, so our choices are along the East Coast, mostly.

So, that brings us to the list:
Conservatories:
Point Park University
SUNY-Purchase
Shenandoah University
Webster University
University of North Carolina School of the Arts

Conservatory Style:
Coastal Carolina University
University of Central Florida
Evansville University
Virginia Commonwealth University

In State:
Columbus State (as close to a really good theatre program as we have here)
Valdosta State (non audition BFA for tech)
West GA (BA....dear LORD don't let this be the school! )

So, what about your high school senior? Have you started the process? Please share as we all go through this together!

Melanie
Wouldn't SCAD Savannah or Atlanta be a great option for your dd?
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Old 08-19-2012, 08:19 PM   #10
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Count me in! DS starts senior year next week. It seems like the first day of kindergarten was just yesterday

He has a rough "list" of schools he's discussed with me. Wants to take the ACT and SAT each one more time before he finalizes where he'll apply.

He's the oldest so it's our first time through this process since DH & I applied ourselves. I keep reminding myself that I will be taking many deep breaths to be patient this fall during application time. He's a great kid, will interview well if he does any. Standardized test scores are average - always has been in the middle percentiles. Goes to a very competitive HS. All honors & AP classes sophomore through senior years. He's been very interested in medicine for years and still has plans for medical school. Hasn't yet decided what major to pursue. We've talked about considering what other career paths he can pursue with a given major should he either change his mind or not get into med school. Thankfully we know a number of doctors and people in other related medical fields to bounce ideas off of

I'm sure it will be an interesting year for us all!
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:39 PM   #11
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Just wanted to say good luck to all.

I have 2 more yrs till the youngest goes to college. However I probably will not have to do much. She has been researching since last yr. She wants a double major in business and communications.

Have fun!
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:53 AM   #12
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Hi All,
Our school year started two weeks ago, but my younger daughter and I have been working on the college process since the end of last year. I've been through this once before, but this time around, it is totally different. My first daughter was all academic: high grades, heavy volunteer work, lots of academic extra curriculars, academic clubs, good test scores...on and on. This time........well........this one is my theatre girl.

She has an active 504 for ADD, math disability, and some visual processing issues. Her grades are going to fall in the 3.0-3.3 average. She has taken "Advanced" classes but no APs. She is a TERRIBLE standardized test taker and never shows her full potential with that at all. She has taken the ACT once, but it was dismal, as expected. She will retake in September and probably again in October.

What's in her favor? She is a technical theatre kid with no performance desires! By the end of this school year, she will have had experience in 19 different (quality) productions in 4 years of high school. Apparently, the fact that she's tech gives her a bit of an edge in the competition for theatre schools. She really only wants a BFA program and would LOVE a true conservatory. Finances are a huge issue as I'm a single mom and a teacher.

I know that for performance majors there is a suggestion of 12+ plus schools since the admittance rate is so low compared to the numbers applying. For tech kids, they usually suggest 6-ish, but we have decided to go with 12 because she wants as many theatre classes as possible and as little core as possible and it will all boil down to money in the end. (I spend tons of time on College Confidential, so a lot of my info comes from those there.)

Yes, I know theatre is a "risky" major. That isn't even a topic for conservation with me. This is her passion, and I will support her in following her dreams. Yes, I realize that some core is a requirement everywhere. However, I have done extensive research into course requirements in all of these schools. The amount of core varies greatly from place to place and degree to degree. She is only interested in a BFA program, but we do have one "safety" BA on the list as a last resort. We are in Georgia, so our choices are along the East Coast, mostly.

So, that brings us to the list:
Conservatories:
Point Park University
SUNY-Purchase
Shenandoah University
Webster University
University of North Carolina School of the Arts

Conservatory Style:
Coastal Carolina University
University of Central Florida
Evansville University
Virginia Commonwealth University

In State:
Columbus State (as close to a really good theatre program as we have here)
Valdosta State (non audition BFA for tech)
West GA (BA....dear LORD don't let this be the school! )

So, what about your high school senior? Have you started the process? Please share as we all go through this together!

Melanie
Is there any chance you are in favor of arranged marriages and is your DD interested in a 15 y/o? Our kids are almost identical. Mine has a visual processing disorder along with other LD, does horribly on standardized tests, and has the mid-range GPA. On the plus side, he is a math genius so he can help your DD and she can help him with his writing. On top of that, he is a theater tech lover! He has been in some productions but much prefers the sound and lighting aspect and has been able to experience both along with assistant stage manager. Who needs match.com when we have the Dis!

Good luck to your DD. My oldest is a senior this year and like your oldest, she is the academic one with all the extras. It is still a long process and she is having a hard time deciding.
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Old 08-23-2012, 09:41 AM   #13
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My DD is about to start her senior year. She knows she would like to go to school in FL, we took a look at four schools while we were down there this summer. She wants to major in nursing and her first choice school is Florida Gulf Coast University, then Nova. I think with her GPA (3.6) and SAT scrores (1500) she will have no problem getting in, the issue will be PAYING for it. FGCU is $36k/year for out of state. Getting ready to start submitting her applications and looking into scholarships.

We are looking into the Navy Nursing Candidate program and she is very excited about the prospect, not only the financial piece but the experience she will gain from the travel and work.

Her older brother will graduate from SUNY Stonybrook this spring as an engineering major, but will be about $80K in debt!

My DD is trying to avoid the huge debt, hence the Navy program
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My DD is about to start her senior year. She knows she would like to go to school in FL, we took a look at four schools while we were down there this summer. She wants to major in nursing and her first choice school is Florida Gulf Coast University, then Nova. I think with her GPA (3.6) and SAT scrores (1500) she will have no problem getting in, the issue will be PAYING for it. FGCU is $36k/year for out of state. Getting ready to start submitting her applications and looking into scholarships.

We are looking into the Navy Nursing Candidate program and she is very excited about the prospect, not only the financial piece but the experience she will gain from the travel and work.

Her older brother will graduate from SUNY Stonybrook this spring as an engineering major, but will be about $80K in debt!

My DD is trying to avoid the huge debt, hence the Navy program
I'm far from an expert in the area of nursing because it isn't an interest of DD. However, she has at least a half dozen friends that are into nursing and they are all big on University of South Florida. A few started there this week and the rest (seniors) all plan on going there next year. When we toured the campus, it did seem like a great place for anyone doing anything medical. I believe they said they had four (maybe three) hospitals right on campus. Nursing talk actually dominated the tour. When we left, I said to DD that now I understand why all her nursing major friends want to go there.

DD's psych professor just told DD this morning that Gulf Coast U is an upcoming school. He said it isn't there yet but he really likes what he is seeing coming out of that school and thought it was worth DD taking a look at. It really wasn't on our radar but now she wants to take a look.
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My DD is about to start her senior year. She knows she would like to go to school in FL, we took a look at four schools while we were down there this summer. She wants to major in nursing and her first choice school is Florida Gulf Coast University, then Nova. I think with her GPA (3.6) and SAT scrores (1500) she will have no problem getting in, the issue will be PAYING for it. FGCU is $36k/year for out of state. Getting ready to start submitting her applications and looking into scholarships.

We are looking into the Navy Nursing Candidate program and she is very excited about the prospect, not only the financial piece but the experience she will gain from the travel and work.

Her older brother will graduate from SUNY Stonybrook this spring as an engineering major, but will be about $80K in debt!

My DD is trying to avoid the huge debt, hence the Navy program

Honestly I would not pay out of state tuition for a Nursing degree, while nurses make good money I don't think it is enough to justify +/- 160K in debt and unfortunately Florida public U's don't offer great aid to OOS.

Someone mentioned USF, they do have an awesome nursing program and ROTC.
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