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Old 07-12-2012, 05:15 PM   #1
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Its sad but Disneyland has priced me back to the World

Well, after falling in love again with my childhood park, Disneyland back in 2009, and not really desiring to go bacfk to Disney World (At least not before I went back to DL as many times as I could), I am heading back to the World because its sooo much cheaper.

I have seen a lot of people talking that they would like to try DW, but need to stick with DL cuz its cheaper, and it just isn't so.

I have been checking walking distance hotels lately for Sept, Oct or Feb and the prices are crazy. No retro rates hardly at HoJos. Not even any rooms for the week I was looking for. $165/nt for the Ramada Maingate? Are you kidding me? And on property hotels, wow, it seems like they have gone up, but maybe it's because I no longer have an AP for any discounts. But after much pricing, my husband and I can do 9 nts on property in a value resort in DW for about what it would cost us for 5 in DL, maybe a little less.

DW has a free dining offer for the fall, which only saves us about $400 from what it would cost in February, but every bit helps. and airfare right now is cheaper from Denver to Orlando, than to Orange County, or even LA. Crazy!

So my husband, who prefers DW pretty much just because of the dining selection, is happy. And I guess in the end, I'm thrilled to be going to any Disney park. I just really can't wait to see CarsLand and get back to my magical place.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:23 PM   #2
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What if you drive? Have you checked all airlines and not just the majors?

Have you broadened your hotel search? Walking 15 minutes at DLR is quicker than a buss ride at WDW.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:29 PM   #3
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There were Hojo retro rates available for most of October earlier in the year. You have to really plan ahead in order to take advantage of those great rates, or you can book at their regular fee and hope they open more dates closer to your trip. If they do, you can change your reservation to the retro rate.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:34 PM   #4
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I did check all the airlines. We usually fly SW so we dont' have bag charges, but they are more to CA than to FL for some reason right now.

We also were trying to avoid driving this trip. We have taken 3 long road trips in the past 9 mos and really want to fly this time instead of driving for 14 hours

And you are right, I'm sure I could do lots several things to cheapen the DL budget, but I'm really trying to compare apples to apples. Like we could eat out less, but husband really like to eat at sit down restaurants once a day, so just pricing similiar eating styles from one resort to another.

And I'm sure I could also save more by looking farther out at motels, and I know the time would be comparable riding the ART or the DW buses, but there just is something to me that doesn't feel right when I have to stay far away from DL as opposed to a long bus ride at DW. I guess it's not having to leave the Disney magic.

So anyway, it feels like I'm pretty much comparing apples to apples, but I'm sure some of them are in my mind only. haha!
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:55 PM   #5
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And you are right, I'm sure I could do lots several things to cheapen the DL budget, but I'm really trying to compare apples to apples. Like we could eat out less, but husband really like to eat at sit down restaurants once a day, so just pricing similiar eating styles from one resort to another.
This probably wasn't fair. Not apples to apples. Because you are comparing free dining and a value resort, that means no TS. That mean getting breakfast from Taste Pilots Grill or the Tomorroland Terrace, not Carnations Cafe or even Denny's. Free dining at a value resort is quick service x2 and a snack.

At DL you can also find cheaper prices midweek, though in late Sept and Oct this gets messier because Halloween parties can up the rates. February as long as not the week of President's Day is about as cheap as you can get at DLR and WDW.

Air rates can be tricky because both LA and Orlando tend to be very competitive to fly into. It's often cheaper to fly between the two rather to either one from elsewhere.
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:10 PM   #6
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Have fun on your trip to WDW, and hope you can find better prices for your vacation when you come back to DLR.
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:18 PM   #7
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This probably wasn't fair. Not apples to apples. Because you are comparing free dining and a value resort, that means no TS.
We've been staying at POP with free dining upgraded from CS to TS and its far cheaper than going to Disneyland and eating comparable meals. Total price of room, tickets, dining and transportation to/from airport (free at DW) has been a far better deal for us. We usually stay 6-9 days.

That said, DW package prices have gone way up over the past few years. Value free dining is only CS where it used to be TS. And TS used to include appetizer and tip which are both no longer included. Not nearly the value it was but still costs us less to go to DW than DLR for a week long visit.
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:33 PM   #8
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That may be the case for you but it's the exact opposite for me. I've been trying to book us a trip to WDW for years, we have a timeshare so we don't even have to pay for a hotel but the flights price us right out of the water. For a family of 4 to fly to Orlando, simply not cost effective at all.......
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:41 PM   #9
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I kinda like that some folks are priced out of Disneyland. DLR is experiencing an upswing in demand so they can charge a premium for access. The premium will, as premiums tend to do, make DLR just a little more exclusive and I am A-OK with that since I don't ever recall wishing there were somehow more people in the parks after one of our trips.
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:40 PM   #10
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For us, the two aren't apples to apples... there are some things we can only do at WDW and some we can only do at DL. Since we are on the west coast airfare is way too prohibitive a difference... $900 to get to WDW this year vs. $360 - that is just for two - to get to Disneyland. It is also a difference of 7-8 hours travel time with a layover vs. a short 2 hour hop down the coast in a plane, and we tend to spend a LOT more on food since there are so many table service options. The hotel can be cheaper if you stay value at an off time, but almost nothing else is, and even then traveling around the parks is a pain since it is so large.

We have stayed at the Carousel Inn three times now and will continue to do so - this last trip I think it was $134/night and it is right next to the Tropicana, then BWI so only two hotels down to the crosswalk - much closer than Hojo. It IS just a motel, but so all the values at WDW IMO, and there were less scratches and smudges on the walls there than at even POFQ (and we stayed there within a month of the renovation to our building). The moderates still feel motelish to me...
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:11 PM   #11
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Airline prices are generally cheaper the closer you get. 3 months out is the earliest you should think about tickets, usually 6 weeks or less you get the best price, unless it's a holiday. Don't forget about long beach too. Where/when are you finding the crazy hotel prices? Usually you can call or follow them on Facebook for better prices. Also try not to book anything on a weekend. Wednesdays are usually the cheapest day to book airline tickets. I hope you have a great time at WDW!
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:35 PM   #12
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Well, after falling in love again with my childhood park, Disneyland back in 2009, and not really desiring to go bacfk to Disney World (At least not before I went back to DL as many times as I could), I am heading back to the World because its sooo much cheaper.

I have seen a lot of people talking that they would like to try DW, but need to stick with DL cuz its cheaper, and it just isn't so.

I have been checking walking distance hotels lately for Sept, Oct or Feb and the prices are crazy. No retro rates hardly at HoJos. Not even any rooms for the week I was looking for. $165/nt for the Ramada Maingate? Are you kidding me? And on property hotels, wow, it seems like they have gone up, but maybe it's because I no longer have an AP for any discounts. But after much pricing, my husband and I can do 9 nts on property in a value resort in DW for about what it would cost us for 5 in DL, maybe a little less.

DW has a free dining offer for the fall, which only saves us about $400 from what it would cost in February, but every bit helps. and airfare right now is cheaper from Denver to Orlando, than to Orange County, or even LA. Crazy!

So my husband, who prefers DW pretty much just because of the dining selection, is happy. And I guess in the end, I'm thrilled to be going to any Disney park. I just really can't wait to see CarsLand and get back to my magical place.
OP, the hotel rates at the good neighbors often come down as you get closer - same thing with Hojo. So pricing out a trip now may not be indicative of what happens later in the year.

The other issue between DLR and WDW is that often the per day expense is less at WDW but the reality is you need more days at WDW so it is more expensive overall. I mean, many folks do a three day trip to DLR. Not so many to WDW.

In any case, Colorado is a great place to live, ain't it?

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But after much pricing, my husband and I can do 9 nts on property in a value resort in DW for about what it would cost us for 5 in DL, maybe a little less.
Have you looked into renting DVC points? We got it down to being able to go to DLR for 6 nights (Studio @ VGC) for the same price as 8 nights at WDW (Studio @ BWV), i.e. we found the all the costs for 8 nights at WDW is about the same as 6 nights at the Villas at the Grand Californian.
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We have five trips planned to Disneyland between now and the end of November, with reservations at the Motel6 for all of those visits. The highest I am paying per night is $68 and the lowest I pay is $48, for a newly remodeled with 2 Queens and a refrigerator. On our last stay I picked up on the great suggestion of asking for the fourth floor and from the landing outside of our room I could see TOT, the Matterhorn, some of Mickey's wheel and much of the fireworks! The shuttle stops right outside of the motel office and I've already bought the shuttle passes ahead of time, saving me a considerable amount. The reality is that, I'm not sure walking vs. shuttle vs. driving, parking is much of a time difference for us.

I just yesterday started looking at a budget to do WDW next year or maybe Paris?
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We are going to DL in Sept and DW in January. We live just five hours from DL, so we drive. Aside from staying onsite being more expensive if you usually stay in the value DW resorts, I don't see much of a difference. We are staying at FFI this time for $100/night. We've stayed at HOJOs for less, but they were booked. I live being able to walk to all the parks, which is a definite plus for me in terms of DL vs DW. We are hoping for free dining at DW but we've never gotten it before so that's not a factor.

I really don't see much of a difference, except when we add in airfare for DW which makes it significantly more.
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