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  1. luvsJack

    It Looks Like the Death Numbers are Being Inflated

    I don’t think it’s comparable to a car accident at all. A car accident is a sudden type death, cancer is an illness. If someone does from a car accident it is likely the trauma that kills them. If the person also had cancer, it would still be the trauma that killed them. Cancer is an...
  2. luvsJack

    Maybe some good news! Treatment trials showing signs of hope!

    I don’t either. I don’t actually believe a whole lot of anything coming out of China right now.
  3. luvsJack

    Maybe some good news! Treatment trials showing signs of hope!

    Oh definitely agree. Especially with this virus. Some folks don’t seem to take good news well.
  4. luvsJack

    Maybe some good news! Treatment trials showing signs of hope!

    So am I understanding this correctly? There have been two (at least) studies in this drug. The one in China did not show it to be effective. But the one here, that Dr Fauci is talking about said it showed promise. And the pp is trying to say that the one in China is the only study we should...
  5. luvsJack

    Food supply chain is breaking

    They have been given the guidelines to follow. Any work place is going to be different. I mentioned dh but he is in a truck most of the day, alone. He gets out and is outside in a mill to load or unload. If he goes inside any building, he wears a mask and used the sanitizer when he gets back in...
  6. luvsJack

    Food supply chain is breaking

    Yep. Dh drives a truck and he had to do the same thing. Since he no longer goes out of state, he doesn’t have to worry about other states, but for some drivers with his company, they have to know the orders in those states and how it pertains to them. And their employers provide them with...
  7. luvsJack

    was asked to leave store after DH and me have been in store for 10 minutes

    I definitely noticed that about the masks. It’s just like with wearing gloves, they are getting false sense of security and not following any other guidelines. Besides half of the 30% wearing them are leaving their nose uncovered. I am guessing they, like me, felt like they were suffocating, but...
  8. luvsJack

    Food supply chain is breaking

    I posted the USDA’s statement on those in my next post. There are several organizations whose entire purpose is to give guidelines and make sure they are carried out. The don’t have to close to protect their employees, if it can be done by following those guidelines. Shutting down needed...
  9. luvsJack

    Food supply chain is breaking

    Yeah. Sorry left that part out! But yes it’s the plants guidelines to follow them and OSHA and the others to make sure they are being followed.
  10. luvsJack

    Food supply chain is breaking

    They have given the plants guidelines to keep their employees safe. It’s the job of the plants to follow those. That’s what USDA, OSHA, the health department and whoever else may inspect these places are for. It’s the employers responsibility.
  11. luvsJack

    Food supply chain is breaking

    Again, why were they not held responsible for any other company? From USDA: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) of the Department of Health and Human Services and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) of the Department of Labor have put out guidance for...
  12. luvsJack

    It Looks Like the Death Numbers are Being Inflated

    Serious question-you can know with 100% certainty that a person would live another 24 hours from a host of other things but Covid 19 caused the death 1 day earlier?
  13. luvsJack

    Food supply chain is breaking

    I have seen them, followed meat from the farmer to the slaughterhouse to the processing plant; and it is up to the COMPANY to protect their employees, just like it is for the other end of the chain. The federal government wasn’t expected to protect the cashier at Walmart or the employees at...
  14. luvsJack

    Food supply chain is breaking

    Those large portions of meat may not have to be fully thawed to be butchered. My dad cut meat for the grocery store he and mom ran. He would get in large pieces that were frozen and would cut them with the meat saw and package with it frozen. That would give more flexibility to how that meat...
  15. luvsJack

    was asked to leave store after DH and me have been in store for 10 minutes

    Is everyone wearing them in your area? All employees are required to here but not customers. I would guess about 30% of the customers we saw wore them. Over where Dd lives, she says it’s about the same as here. We did but I kept messing with it because I fell like I can’t breath if something...
  16. luvsJack

    How close are you to your breaking point?

    Oh yeah, that part too. And parents sometimes can’t come get them but there are always the few that flat out just won’t. Frustrating! I always felt so bad for those that really couldn’t leave work easily but those that just wouldn’t come get their sick baby infuriated me. We did try to keep...
  17. luvsJack

    was asked to leave store after DH and me have been in store for 10 minutes

    So there are an enormous number of people waiting, which I suggested. And YES a different situation. We all have different situations. Which is why everyone needs to stop assuming anyone is wrong for what they do when you have no clue what is happening in their area. (By the way I have...
  18. luvsJack

    was asked to leave store after DH and me have been in store for 10 minutes

    Yeah except I haven’t said anything about constitutional rights here at any time. You are making an assumption. I get why they have the rules they want us to follow. I don’t have an issue following them. Have been since the beginning. I am just saying that this rule doesn’t follow the reasons...
  19. luvsJack

    was asked to leave store after DH and me have been in store for 10 minutes

    Constitutional rights? About shopping? Who said anything about rights? And what on earth does any of it have to do with haircuts? So because YOUR area or store has a particular rule that one must be the best so we should all follow it? No one has been instructed to do that here. They are...




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