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2TxAgs 05-13-2013 10:34 AM

Runners...Protection?
 
Saw on the news where another runner (4th in a couple years) had been killed by a group of dogs in Ca.

Do you carry anything for protection when you run? Would something like Mace be effective with dogs as well as humans?

kappyfamily 05-13-2013 12:45 PM

I just looked it up and I guess pepper spray or mace works against dogs too. I have a running belt and I keep a small container of mace in it. I got it at a running shop. They say the worst thing to do is run if one starts chasing you. Unless of course you run a 4 minute mile, then I guess give it a shot....

ironpig70 05-13-2013 12:46 PM

I am applying for my concealed license and when I get it I will be running armed.


Don't know about mace on animals or people and not going to risk my life trying it.

JessM 05-13-2013 03:08 PM

Luckily I live in a pretty safe area. I do carry my license and cell phone on me if I'm going out for more than 6 miles, but that's just in case I got clipped by a car, I can't imagine feeling like I needed to carry mace or something :worried:

Dagna 05-13-2013 04:48 PM

Used to have to run through packs of boonie dogs in the neighborhoods on Guam. Stooping down to pick up a rock was effective there; never actually had to throw one.

Now I get dog repellent at the local cycling shop. It's just pepper spray in a different container, but I think it's set to shoot a tighter pattern to a further distance. I actually carry it in case of bad humans, not dogs. It's a little less in-your-face when the can on one's waistband says dog repellent :).

bumbershoot 05-14-2013 02:52 PM

This thread prompted me to search for the news article. And wow, 6 pit bulls? Who were owned by someone who was into highly illegal things, and likely wasn't a kind and caring owner who had raised them as lovable pets?

Are we sure that anything could totally protect against that?


In the articles I found, even the husband was saying that if she had not had her ipod on she would have been aware of the dogs. I think that truer words have never been quoted. It's imperative that we stay alert and aware of our surroundings.

My brother lives in Chula Vista, and not only does he have dogs on his route, but he has coyotes, too. (and a roadrunner, which lives in the same basic area as the coyotes, and we giggle madly over that combo) He does not run with music. He has to be aware and alert. (the coyotes used to run away when they saw him, but they have grown used to him, and stay nearish the path...he liked it better when they ran away)

He has been chased by a "totally friendly, he won't bite!" dog, and he is wary of every single dog he sees. He and I were raised with big scary-to-others dogs, Alaskan Malamutes, so he's not afraid of dogs, per se, but he's afraid of dogs on no leashes, puny leashes, behind bad fences (thankfully his neighborhood doesn't allow bad fences), any ANY dog owner.


In the article it said that neighbors heard her and were able to get there, and cops got there in time to see the dogs. That means it was populated. And I'm trying to imagine the extra tragedies that could happen if she had had a gun and had tried to shoot the dogs. Isn't it FAR more likely that the bullet, which does not know where it's supposed to go, would not hit the mark (how on earth do you train to accurately hit 6 attacking dogs?), and would go elsewhere? In a neighborhood, this sounds like a future manslaughter charge to me...


I grew up in a "neighborhood" (dead end road) with a pit bull and a drug and gun dealer (cross the street neighbor!), and I walked Very Carefully past that house, and did my running elsewhere. You couldn't have paid me to RUN by the house with the attack dog (and he was trained as such). The neighborhood in the article KNEW of this guy and the dogs, there had been multiple citations and police calls about them. The choice to run in that neighborhood, with music playing in my ears, is not one I would have made.


But if I had made the choice, I would have carried a few bottles of pepper spray and/or mace, and maybe a noise maker made to ward off dogs. I don't think I would have chanced the lives of kids living nearby by thinking I could EVER be good enough to accurately shoot dogs trying to attack me.

Not to mention, just getting a gun out of wherever I would conceal it would probably result in my shooting my own darned self.

bryannem 05-14-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JessM (Post 48384319)
Luckily I live in a pretty safe area. I do carry my license and cell phone on me if I'm going out for more than 6 miles, but that's just in case I got clipped by a car, I can't imagine feeling like I needed to carry mace or something :worried:

If you don't want to worry about your license or id, you can get a Road ID. It's a little bracelet with all your contact info on it, medical info, etc. they aren't too expensive either

KTSMOM 05-17-2013 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bryannem (Post 48397583)
If you don't want to worry about your license or id, you can get a Road ID. It's a little bracelet with all your contact info on it, medical info, etc. they aren't too expensive either


I second this. My DH has one that he wears when he cycles. They are very light weight so it won't bother you when you are exercising outside.

Also, most running stores offer small bottles of mace that you can carry on you. They may look tiny, but they are just as powerful. I have a friend whose husband mistakenly thought it was a small flash light and caused the spray to come out. Unfortunately she and her husband felt the effects of it, but on the bright side she said she knew if she needed to use it to ward of a dog or an attacker that it would work quite well and she would be able to get away from the situation.

TMcDwyer 05-22-2013 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryannem (Post 48397583)
If you don't want to worry about your license or id, you can get a Road ID. It's a little bracelet with all your contact info on it, medical info, etc. they aren't too expensive either

Love my Road ID! We actually just got them for the kids to wear in the parks too. :)

DonaldDuckFamily 05-26-2013 09:48 AM

I think it is imperative that while out running, we be totally aware of our surroundings. On April 7th, 2013, a woman running in my city on a walk/bike path was killed by drunk driver : http://wislawjournal.com/2013/04/11/...killed-runner/

The accident happened at an intersection where there is an off ramp and she was hit while she was running in the crosswalk. There are now 12 pair of running shoes at this intersection in memory along with a memorial race this weekend.https://www.facebook.com/MaureenMengeltMemorial

Be safe on your runs :grouphug:


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