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Carlyzmom 04-15-2013 09:30 AM

$20 Trick.....at Disney?
 
Just wondering if anyone has ever tried this at Disney? Or is it only a Las Vegas thing? I have never heard of it used anywhere but Vegas, but I was wondering of anyone has thought of trying it?

I have used it with great success in Vegas, but don't know if I would have the guts to try it anywhere else!! :laughing:

HubbDave 04-15-2013 09:33 AM

And what is the trick?

BeckyEsq 04-15-2013 09:37 AM

I have often wondered this myself!

WEDWDW 04-15-2013 09:37 AM

DEFINITELY not something you want to do at WDW!!!!:)

The front desk CMs can be terminated if they accept anything like that from Guests.:)

Carlyzmom 04-15-2013 09:37 AM

You fold up a $20 and put it in between your photo ID and credit card and hand it to the person checking you in the hotel - while asking them if there are any complimentary upgrades available. They take the tip, and many times give you a better room than what you paid for. Not sure it if would work here at Disney because most rooms are already booked. In Vegas there are probably many more empty rooms for them to work with. I dunno.

Carlyzmom 04-15-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WEDWDW (Post 48108820)
DEFINITELY not something you want to do at WDW!!!!:)

The front desk CMs can be terminated if they accept anything like that from Guests.:)

Like I said, I don't think I could do it myself, just wondering if anyone had tried it. I doubt they would be terminated though. Or else the bell guys would get fired every single day.

HubbDave 04-15-2013 09:39 AM

This would give you negative Pixie Dust.methinks...

WEDWDW 04-15-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlyzmom (Post 48108837)
Or else the bell guys would get fired every single day.

Bell Services is a "tipped" position-Front Desk is not.:)

Carlyzmom 04-15-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by HubbDave (Post 48108842)
This would give you negative Pixie Dust.methinks...

Could be. I guess it would depend on the mood of the CM. Probably many of the would not get it. Probably only a Vegas thing.

TigrLvsPooh 04-15-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlyzmom (Post 48108821)
You fold up a $20 and put it in between your photo ID and credit card and hand it to the person checking you in the hotel - while asking them if there are any complimentary upgrades available. They take the tip, and many times give you a better room than what you paid for. Not sure it if would work here at Disney because most rooms are already booked. In Vegas there are probably many more empty rooms for them to work with. I dunno.

This would not work at Disney resorts. The CM's checking you in don't give someone a free upgrade unless it has already been predetermined by the computer. For example, if the CL has a ton of vacant rooms the room controller might decide to upgrade a few people who were booked at Lagoon view and those people would be notified at check-in that they had received a free upgrade. It wasn't the CM checking them in that did it on their own. Now, if you ask if any upgrades are available, and they do have rooms, they sometimes offer people an upgrade for a fee ($50 a night is what we paid one time). So it never hurts to ask. But I wouldn't give them a $20. That is super tacky.

Carlyzmom 04-15-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WEDWDW (Post 48108851)
Bell Services is a "tipped" position-Front Desk is not.:)

Yes, but if a CM was particulary helpful, you can't give them a tip? After the fact, I mean. I often tip folks (outside of Disney) that are helpful and cheerful and may not necessarily be in a "tipped" position.

HubbDave 04-15-2013 09:43 AM

I think in Vegas it is required...lol

TigrLvsPooh 04-15-2013 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlyzmom (Post 48108875)
Yes, but if a CM was particulary helpful, you can't give them a tip? After the fact, I mean. I often tip folks (outside of Disney) that are helpful and cheerful and may not necessarily be in a "tipped" position.

There have been CMs terminated for accepting tips. Bell services and Mousekeepers are the only people I tip in the hotel. Not including the restaurants of course.

Carlyzmom 04-15-2013 09:49 AM

Like I said, I would NEVER try this personally, just wondering if it had ever crossed anyone's mind.

EagleScout 04-15-2013 10:05 AM

As a Vegas (and AC) veteran, as well as a Disney veteran, it typically does NOT work for a few reasons:

1) In Vegas (and Atlantic City), there is just generally a "culture" of tipping, even for "non-tipped" positions - so it is "different." And in Disney, it is true that accepting tips is "against policy", but I believe the "full policy" is something like the check-in host is required to refuse the tip a certain number of times, and at a certain point, they typically just put in a general "pot" for office parties, etc. (Although some check-in hosts are known to just continue to refuse indefinitely, particularly because the particular manager on duty may have a stricter standard, etc.)

2) Much of the tipping in Vegas and AC is for preferred views, but in Disney, those are typically separate booking categories with separate prices.

3) In Vegas (and AC, and any other casino-hotel), many of the best rooms are held open for "high rollers" (big gamblers) who are even potentially arriving, and if any of those people cancel or change plans at last minute (which does happen often), their rooms "open up" and it sort of flows down - this just does not happen as frequently at non-casino hotels. We have gotten rooms in Vegas that even had elaborate gift baskets with someone else's name on them, waiting for the person who was "supposed" to eat them.

4) As others have alluded to, there is the risk of "negative pixie dust" - many of the Disney employees are very dedicated to the "Disney standard", and as part of that, rather than just focusing on impeccable customer service, etc., some of them take an almost self-righteous approach to this and other similar attempts to be a little "sneaky", etc., despite them being fairly innocuous. As part of that, most Disney hosts will be more likely to grant upgrades or requests, if available (which is rare), if they "like" you - you are friendly, have kids, or rather than money, if you have some sort of "Sympathetic" aspect to your trip (with an elderly relative, sick child, etc.) Some have been known to express moral indignation at even an attempted "bribe". Although the person is a stranger, who wants to start their vacation with being scorned at, etc? Also, for those few "upgrades"/"requests" that are not a separate category that people sometimes request (near elevator, away from elevator, higher floor, lower floor, etc.), if you do get a check-in host "mad" at you, less likely to be helpful.

One other quick warning- if you are someone who is used to the more opulent Vegas hotel rooms, you may be in for a bit of a shock when you see the Disney rooms - which are always perfectly nice, but you are paying a big premium for onsite -which we always do, but others feel differently.


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