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Luv0fDisney 04-02-2013 09:59 PM

I think it's sad....
 
I think it's sad that Walt Disney's original idea for Disney World is being changed just for more income.

He never wanted carnival games in his parks... But they put them in anyway in Animal Kingdom.

His first major oopsy was that he didn't control the area around the perimeter of DisneyLand, so other corporates could build so he bought more land for Disney World so that wouldn't happen. So what do Disney World owner or whoever makes the decisions do? They put other corps right into the parks. I know they have McDonald's in Magic kingdom and Epcot, in their own little stands but to change "Main Street" by putting in a Starbucks? The horror. Sure when I visit I will NOT step foot in or around Starbucks. That's my decision. Not that I drink coffee any way, but if i need a refreshment I will walk 10-20 feet away to somewhere else. Starbucks will NOT get my $$ or snack credits.

I think it is sad that the current President (or whoever makes these decisions) is losing the sight of what Walt Disney wanted for his parks. Yes I know he's not around any more but it seems like whoever makes the decisions is losing site of the magic and the meaning of what walking up Main Street means to people. I know when I'm in Magic Kingdom walking up Main Street I just feel the magic.

I just don't know any more. My site of the magic is getting dimmer and dimmer because of these changes that Disney never wanted in the first place.

Don't even get me going about Avatarland. I mean that's not Even Disney. Soon Disney World will be like Universal Studios... Not that i'm saying Universal Studios is a bad place but when you think of Disney World you think of all the magic and the good memories...not Starbucks..

Planogirl 04-02-2013 10:03 PM

You do know that Disney has never created its own coffee don't you? They've always had corporate sponsors and that includes the place that existed before the Starbucks. If you look at old pictures of Disneyland, you will see endless corporations on all of the buildings.

But go ahead and avoid Starbucks. We'll more than make up for that.

smitch425 04-02-2013 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv0fDisney (Post 47990232)
I think it's sad that Walt Disney's original idea for Disney World is being changed just for more income.

He never wanted carnival games in his parks... But they put them in anyway in Animal Kingdom.

His first major oopsy was that he didn't control the area around the perimeter of DisneyLand, so other corporates could build so he bought more land for Disney World so that wouldn't happen. So what do Disney World owner or whoever makes the decisions do? They put other corps right into the parks. I know they have McDonald's in Magic kingdom and Epcot, in their own little stands but to change "Main Street" by putting in a Starbucks? The horror. Sure when I visit I will NOT step foot in or around Starbucks. That's my decision. Not that I drink coffee any way, but if i need a refreshment I will walk 10-20 feet away to somewhere else. Starbucks will NOT get my $$ or snack credits.

I think it is sad that the current President (or whoever makes these decisions) is losing the sight of what Walt Disney wanted for his parks. Yes I know he's not around any more but it seems like whoever makes the decisions is losing site of the magic and the meaning of what walking up Main Street means to people. I know when I'm in Magic Kingdom walking up Main Street I just feel the magic.

I just don't know any more. My site of the magic is getting dimmer and dimmer because of these changes that Disney never wanted in the first place.

Don't even get me going about Avatarland. I mean that's not Even Disney. Soon Disney World will be like Universal Studios... Not that i'm saying Universal Studios is a bad place but when you think of Disney World you think of all the magic and the good memories...not Starbucks..

McDonald's is not in any of the parks. They haven't been for years. Walt was a business man. There is no way to know if he would have made the same changes or not. The man has been dead for decades. Times have changed, and businesses have to make adjustments based on the needs and wants of their customers.

Totally with you on the Avatar thing. Dumbest idea ever.:thumbsup2

mad madam mim78 04-02-2013 10:05 PM

I get what you're saying. I'm not gonna lie though. I'm not sad there will be a Starbucks. When I hit a wall I am so glad I can run over and get my soy mocha for a pick me up.

kimblebee 04-02-2013 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv0fDisney (Post 47990232)
I think it's sad that Walt Disney's original idea for Disney World is being changed just for more income.

He never wanted carnival games in his parks... But they put them in anyway in Animal Kingdom.

His first major oopsy was that he didn't control the area around the perimeter of DisneyLand, so other corporates could build so he bought more land for Disney World so that wouldn't happen. So what do Disney World owner or whoever makes the decisions do? They put other corps right into the parks. I know they have McDonald's in Magic kingdom and Epcot, in their own little stands but to change "Main Street" by putting in a Starbucks? The horror. Sure when I visit I will NOT step foot in or around Starbucks. That's my decision. Not that I drink coffee any way, but if i need a refreshment I will walk 10-20 feet away to somewhere else. Starbucks will NOT get my $$ or snack credits.

I think it is sad that the current President (or whoever makes these decisions) is losing the sight of what Walt Disney wanted for his parks. Yes I know he's not around any more but it seems like whoever makes the decisions is losing site of the magic and the meaning of what walking up Main Street means to people. I know when I'm in Magic Kingdom walking up Main Street I just feel the magic.

I just don't know any more. My site of the magic is getting dimmer and dimmer because of these changes that Disney never wanted in the first place.

Don't even get me going about Avatarland. I mean that's not Even Disney. Soon Disney World will be like Universal Studios... Not that i'm saying Universal Studios is a bad place but when you think of Disney World you think of all the magic and the good memories...not Starbucks..

I don't care one way or another if Starbucks is in the Magic Kingdom or not. It always amuses me when someone says it's not what Walt wanted. Where is the quote of him saying please, let's never put Starbucks in the park? :rolleyes1

Planogirl 04-02-2013 10:07 PM

I missed the Avatar bit. Of course that is a matter of individual taste since apparently Indiana Jones and the like are fine.

JaneBanks 04-02-2013 10:09 PM

I thought Avatarland was squashed?

Anyway, don't be fooled. Disney wanted to make money, he wasn't doing it just for the magic.

Like another person said, Disney doesn't make it's own coffee and when you're drinking a soda, it's not Disney's personal brand.

Luv0fDisney 04-02-2013 10:11 PM

There is a mcdonald like kiosk in adventure land.
and they sell mcflurry's in epcot when you go to the right there's a kiosk by bathrooms near the lake...

Planogirl 04-02-2013 10:14 PM

http://www.couponingtodisney.com/wp-...4337a2d620.jpg
Notice anything interesting about that sign?

godoftheWorld 04-02-2013 10:16 PM

The Disneys no longer own Disney....It's a business now.

Allison 04-02-2013 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv0fDisney (Post 47990333)
There is a mcdonald like kiosk in adventure land.
and they sell mcflurry's in epcot when you go to the right there's a kiosk by bathrooms near the lake...

The actual McDonald's products are gone.

There has been corporate sponsorship at Disney for decades. I wish I had saved the post someone had filled with pictures of all the corporate signs in the park.

And we don't have a way to know what changes Walt Disney wanted or didn't want. He never lived in this era.

kwelch10377 04-02-2013 10:20 PM

Based on everything that I have ever read about Walt all he wanted was basically a place where someone of any age could go and be a kid and to get caught up in a world of imagination. The Walt Disney Company has succeed with that in what they have done with WDW and Disneyland. Walt Disney also wanted to build a successful company and that has been accomplished as well. People seem to forget that Walt was also a businessman that wanted to make money.

I would assume that since you won't be giving Starbucks your money, you also won't be getting ice cream at any of the ice cream places that say they feature Edy's Ice Cream or you won't be riding Test Track M car since Test Track has GM shown all over the place or getting your picture taken near any of the signs that say "Kodak Picture Spot"

smitch425 04-02-2013 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv0fDisney (Post 47990333)
There is a mcdonald like kiosk in adventure land.
and they sell mcflurry's in epcot when you go to the right there's a kiosk by bathrooms near the lake...

There are no McDonald's products in the parks. :confused3

Brancaneve 04-02-2013 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Planogirl (Post 47990354)
http://www.couponingtodisney.com/wp-...4337a2d620.jpg
Notice anything interesting about that sign?

Nestle Tollhouse right in the sign! :wave2:

Chuckers 04-02-2013 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Planogirl (Post 47990264)
You do know that Disney has never created its own coffee don't you? They've always had corporate sponsors and that includes the place that existed before the Starbucks. If you look at old pictures of Disneyland, you will see endless corporations on all of the buildings.

But go ahead and avoid Starbucks. We'll more than make up for that.

Butoni sponsors Tony's in MK and Red Rocket Pizza Port in DL. Carnation sponsors a restaurant in DL. Dole sponsors Aloha Isle. Oh.. and Coca Cola has it's own spot in Epcot.. McDonald's used to be in DL, but they're gone now. Corporate sponsorship comes and goes all the time. And thankfully they do sponsor places on Disney Property.. prices for things could be even higher without Corporations subsidizing.

To the OP, just because you don't care for Starbuck's doesn't mean they don't belong on Disney Property.


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