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3happydancers 03-19-2013 10:55 AM

EMH being slashed?
 
Has anyone heard if Disney is planning to slash Friday night magic hours for MK this summer? :confused3

patsal 03-19-2013 05:01 PM

Doubt it, it was on the calander when I checked.

Gorechick 03-19-2013 05:06 PM

Yes, they have. Thread is already on the Theme parks board.

DRDISNEYMD 03-19-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by patsal (Post 47848876)
Doubt it, it was on the calander when I checked.

~I haven't heard this rumor, but like you -- I just checked the Disney calendar for July and I see Friday EMH for the entire month. With that said, it is the Disney website, so that isn't saying much. At this point, I'll just wait for something more official.

patsal 03-20-2013 07:10 PM

Waiting for something more official, but that stinks as I planned my trip around their calander. Kinda sad, they keep chipping away at the things we enjoy and I am finding it more and more difficult to want to choose to spend my money on this "product".

Tekneek 03-20-2013 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by patsal (Post 47861240)
Waiting for something more official, but that stinks as I planned my trip around their calander. Kinda sad, they keep chipping away at the things we enjoy and I am finding it more and more difficult to want to choose to spend my money on this "product".

This seems like it would substantially alter the value of staying on property if not replaced with anything.

zulemara 03-21-2013 12:05 AM

it doesn't surprise me at all. I have read for a while that EMH was going away and the reduction to 2hrs was only the beginning. I mentioned it in one of my blogs also. I could see them doing some kind of capacity calculation and determining that FP+ will replace the need for EMH

gdrj 03-21-2013 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by patsal (Post 47861240)
Waiting for something more official, but that stinks as I planned my trip around their calander. Kinda sad, they keep chipping away at the things we enjoy and I am finding it more and more difficult to want to choose to spend my money on this "product".

I have no idea if true or not, of if they will reduce # of days etc... but there has to be a tremendous cost to operate when you think of not just park staff, but transporation, security, possibly increased staffing after hours to have park ready for AM. I wonder how many people truly use the EMH at night especially MK when its till 3 AM. We've used it and the attendance really drops as it get later.

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Originally Posted by Tekneek (Post 47861352)
This seems like it would substantially alter the value of staying on property if not replaced with anything.

I wonder what the real number of guest that take advantage of it. We might take advantage 1 or 2 days in the evening. I disagree about the having an effect on the value of staying on property for most people.

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Originally Posted by zulemara (Post 47863922)
it doesn't surprise me at all. I have read for a while that EMH was going away and the reduction to 2hrs was only the beginning. I mentioned it in one of my blogs also. I could see them doing some kind of capacity calculation and determining that FP+ will replace the need for EMH

FP+ interesting thought.

Tekneek 03-21-2013 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gdrj (Post 47863975)
I wonder what the real number of guest that take advantage of it. We might take advantage 1 or 2 days in the evening. I disagree about the having an effect on the value of staying on property for most people.

Disney rarely cuts back on one specific thing and otherwise keeps it around. They didn't drop the third hour on just one night or at just one park. They dropped it across the board. If they make further cuts, it is unlikely to be impacting just one park or just one day.

I would be very much surprised if people don't factor EMH into their decision to stay on property. Sure, not everyone does it, but I would be very surprised to find out if few do.

3happydancers 03-21-2013 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by patsal (Post 47848876)
Doubt it, it was on the calander when I checked.

I just know that a friend of mine read this on the easywdw site (I think that is the name). I am not looking to start a rumor, but was rather interested if anyone else heard the same thing.


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Originally Posted by Gorechick (Post 47848918)
Yes, they have. Thread is already on the Theme parks board.

I did not see the other "threads" until after I posted.

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Originally Posted by patsal (Post 47861240)
Waiting for something more official, but that stinks as I planned my trip around their calander. Kinda sad, they keep chipping away at the things we enjoy and I am finding it more and more difficult to want to choose to spend my money on this "product".

You're probably right; waiting for something more official is best, but it would stink as we planned around the summer calendar too. My family is in agreement that Disney is becoming less of a 'Must Do" with all the cuts and changes. Change can be good but I think they are too many, too fast, with much of the changes taking away the things we have come to love while relentlessly increasing ticket prices to the point we won't be able to afford to purchase them. I know they are in business to make money, but each family has a breaking point and I guess my family is reaching ours. So sad :sad:

Tekneek 03-21-2013 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 3happydancers (Post 47864598)
My family is in agreement that Disney is becoming less of a 'Must Do" with all the cuts and changes. Change can be good but I think they are too many, too fast, with much of the changes taking away the things we have come to love while relentlessly increasing ticket prices to the point we won't be able to afford to purchase them. I know they are in business to make money, but each family has a breaking point and I guess my family is reaching ours. So sad :sad:

I concur. So far it has worked out in Disney's favor. We made a promise to a daughter, and the trip later this year is seeing that through. I'm dedicated to making it the best birthday trip for her that we can muster. After that, I cannot currently imagine a time where we will (1) take a Disney-centric vacation again and (2) ever stay on WDW property again.

If they impress us while we're there (something they haven't done in about 8 years), our view could change. Given the trend of declining experiences over the past decade though, I'm not counting on it. Pay more for less has been the motto for a while and I'm finally at the point where I'll let somebody else pay that tab.

3happydancers 03-21-2013 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tekneek (Post 47864640)
I concur. So far it has worked out in Disney's favor. We made a promise to a daughter, and the trip later this year is seeing that through. I'm dedicated to making it the best birthday trip for her that we can muster. After that, I cannot currently imagine a time where we will (1) take a Disney-centric vacation again and (2) ever stay on WDW property again.

If they impress us while we're there (something they haven't done in about 8 years), our view could change. Given the trend of declining experiences over the past decade though, I'm not counting on it. Pay more for less has been the motto for a while and I'm finally at the point where I'll let somebody else pay that tab.

We are in the same boat except we already committed to take our DD and a friend for their 16th birthday next year AND we have a trip planned for this year. After that, well I guess will see. One other thing for us was that years ago, we purchased into the DVC Vacation Club. Now we are even thinking on what to do with that if Disney keeps cutting and slashing while raising costs (and again I understand it is a business and they are in it to make $$$). Some like you and me will probably break away while others may still feel the magic. I am hoping that we will be pleasantly surprised this summer. Last year was horrible. Time will tell.

WMorganS 03-21-2013 07:27 AM

Man, I'm so bummed. Friday night at MK was the high point of every trip! We even have BOG ADR's built around it in April and August ;-(,,,

I bet they're REALLY doing this so BLT will be easier to book!! Maybe this is why the BLT price didn't go up! (grumbles and mutters other ridiculous conjectures)

I suppose in the future we could try to make Sunday our last park night, for the MK EMH, but I doubt it. It'd be impossible to get the back in time for school, and it just wouldn't be the same anyway.

Man, this sucks!

3happydancers 03-21-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WMorganS (Post 47864830)
Man, I'm so bummed. Friday night at MK was the high point of every trip! We even have BOG ADR's built around it in April and August ;-(,,,

I bet they're REALLY doing this so BLT will be easier to book!! Maybe this is why the BLT price didn't go up! (grumbles and mutters other ridiculous conjectures)

I suppose in the future we could try to make Sunday our last park night, for the MK EMH, but I doubt it. It'd be impossible to get the back in time for school, and it just wouldn't be the same anyway.

Man, this sucks!

I don't know if this makes you feel any better, but I did notice that in August MK hours are 9-11pm (as of now, but you know that can change). It's not as good as magic hours and I agree this stinks. We are in the same boat. We arrive on Friday and planned dinner and a late night at the Kingdom. The only reason I am not switching my plans is because dinner at Tony's was my DD's request. I just hope Disney does not change much more. Our August visit is planned just so because we are meeting friends and family on certain dates that cannot be switched out. I am crossing my fingers...

WMorganS 03-21-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 3happydancers (Post 47872318)

I don't know if this makes you feel any better, but I did notice that in August MK hours are 9-11pm (as of now, but you know that can change). It's not as good as magic hours and I agree this stinks. We are in the same boat. We arrive on Friday and planned dinner and a late night at the Kingdom. The only reason I am not switching my plans is because dinner at Tony's was my DD's request. I just hope Disney does not change much more. Our August visit is planned just so because we are meeting friends and family on certain dates that cannot be switched out. I am crossing my fingers...

Thanks. It's just so bizarre to have NOTHING special on Friday nights... what on earth are they thinking? It's Friday night, for Pete's sake! That's like date night!

They must be making way for something else. It's the only logical explanation.


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