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qman 10-08-2012 12:08 PM

Always stayed on WDW Property - sell me on off site
 
We've been to WDW four times and stayed on site each time (CBR & CSR). We really enjoyed being on site but it is expensive. Assuming we rent a car and have to pay for parking each day, what is the savings of staying off site?

conniehar90 10-08-2012 01:27 PM

Even with a car and parking we usually always come out ahead. I wouldn't say it was worth it if you are just going to do a hotel but if you rent a condo in one of the communities just outside the gate, you will be soooo happy with all the extra space you gain, you will never want to go back onsite.

Try Windsor Hills - super close and really nice!

momto2js 10-08-2012 02:54 PM

We drive but assuming you can get a car on the less expensive side you can come out way ahead and have WAY more space. We have done a week with everything (granted we had the salute tickets) for our family of 4 for @ 1200. No way we could have done that at a value and we have always at least had 2 bedrooms and a full kitchen.

I argue that it has never taken me longer to get to the parks from off-site than if I stay on and used disney transport. I have often been in the park and 30 minutes later had my kids in bed for a nap during the day.

Good luck making a decision but for us it is easy.

cherylsmike 10-08-2012 02:56 PM

I did the math and made a spreadsheet because I am resisting staying off-site. We will be staying at Wyndham Bonnet Creek in a One-bedroom villa because even with rental car (they do have a shuttle) and parking fees it is still much cheaper than a moderate ($649 for 8 nights plus $350 over estimate for car and parking total $1000 with the freedom of a car) or about the same price as the All-Stars without a car ($909). Tickets and food not included. Except at Bonnet Creek we get a King size bed, sofa, kitchen, washer/dryer, garden tub, and balcony. And it is closer to the action than the All-Stars. I am still struggling with the choice, but I figured for the space, comfort, and budget I can at least try it.

4kids4karen 10-08-2012 04:38 PM

What are you looking for? A larger place?

I have stayed at a hotel right across the street from Downtown Disney and it was great being so close to our hotel and having DTD so close by. The hotel has changed names like 3 times, but is a nice hotel if you get in the towers. It was Regal Sun but I am pretty sure the name changed again because my brother just stayed there a few months ago under the new name.

1GR8DISNEYFAN 10-08-2012 06:31 PM

Our last trip we stayed at Bonnet Creek in a 2 BR presidential suite. The room and resort were beautiful, it was nice having the extra space. But, it just wasn't Disney. I love staying on site. While trying to make a decision about that trip I was on the fence about on or off property. I read the "We love Bonnet Creek" thread every day and looked at all the pictures. After a lot of consideration I decided to try off site. I do not regret my decision because now I know. From now on if at all possible, I will always choose on site. If you do choose off site I would highly recomend Bonnet Creek. We rented points and got a great deal. At Bonnet Creek you have a full kitchen so can eat all meals and snacks in which can be a big savings. You do get more for your money off site, it just depends on what you want from your vacation. I really think it is a personal choice. I realized that for me a big part of my vacation is staying at a Disney resort. I love being surounded by the magic 24 hours a day, and would rather stay in a smaller room to have it.

LeahA 10-08-2012 06:58 PM

It all comes down to money for us this year. We used to stay offsite and then spent many years onsite, most recently in our DVC which since we've had to sell. So this trip we have a 3 bedroom condo for 1 week at WH for $900.00. There is 5 of us, and POR is $2000 for the same week. Hopefully in the future we can stay onsite again, but, I'm excited to stretch out, save some money, and try something new!

mommytothreeboys 10-08-2012 07:04 PM

I am struggling with this same decision. We have always stayed onsite and used the dining plan. This year, money is really tight and it looks like it's either offsite or no Disney. :sad1: I understand the "immersed in the magic" feeling and, given an unlimited budget, would prefer it. But....with 5 of us, Value is not an option so the money we can save by staying offsite makes a Disney trip possible this year. The more I look at the options at Windsor Hills, the more excited I get to try something new. It will be a different kind of Disney trip, but one I am excited to be financially able to make work!

Good luck.....I hope you get the advice and the trip you are looking for! :goodvibes

bankr63 10-08-2012 07:23 PM

It should be easy to beat the price you are used to. Compared to a moderate, an offsite resort will be less expensive and provide much more space. From your avatar photo, it looks like you are at least a family of 4. We love staying at a 2BR Villa with our family of 4, so much more room than any hotel room - space-wise the only comparable is a DVC 2BR in a Deluxe ($$$). We stay at Vistana and our cost is similar to two Value rooms, but there are many other options - the Hiltons (HGVC) are amazing, WBC is nice and close to staying onsite.

Check out the transportation board for how to save on your rental. It really doesn't have to be very expensive at all.

jm0925 10-08-2012 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 4kids4karen (Post 46386595)
What are you looking for? A larger place?

I have stayed at a hotel right across the street from Downtown Disney and it was great being so close to our hotel and having DTD so close by. The hotel has changed names like 3 times, but is a nice hotel if you get in the towers. It was Regal Sun but I am pretty sure the name changed again because my brother just stayed there a few months ago under the new name.

I know which hotel you are referring to also and for the life of me I can't remember the new name. I know one of its old names was The Grosvenor Hotel. My aunt worked at that hotel many years ago so my family would stay there for Disney vacations. I recently stayed at the Best Western down the street on that same road, but I wasn't impressed. The rooms needed some updating.

4kids4karen 10-08-2012 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jm0925 (Post 46388269)
I know which hotel you are referring to also and for the life of me I can't remember the new name. I know one of its old names was The Grosvenor Hotel. My aunt worked at that hotel many years ago so my family would stay there for Disney vacations. I recently stayed at the Best Western down the street on that same road, but I wasn't impressed. The rooms needed some updating.

I just did a google search to find it. Yes, I remember it as the Grosvenor, then Regal Sun. It looks like now it is just called Wyndam Lake Buena Vista.

I know online reviews many did not like the 1st floor rooms with the large sliding doors because of noise of guest coming in/out at all hours. I have only stayed in the towers and thought it was a very nice stay. I have stayed here twice. Once with my brother's family, who recently went back a couple months ago. They have a very nice pool and kids splash/play area.

Upatnoon 10-09-2012 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by qman (Post 46383718)
We've been to WDW four times and stayed on site each time (CBR & CSR). We really enjoyed being on site but it is expensive. Assuming we rent a car and have to pay for parking each day, what is the savings of staying off site?

Money AND sanity savings: Staying offsite you get more space, more beds, more TVs, more bathrooms, full kitchen -- all for less than the cost of a tiny Disney value room. More space means more relaxation and better sleep. More rest means more fun and less stress.

Food savings: Because you have a full kitchen, you can eat breakfast in or the occasional dinner in your room and save over eating out. It is often more relaxing to eat dinner in your room than trudge off to another restaurant when tired.

Snack savings: Keeping snacks and treats in your kitchen means spending less on them at the theme parks. Not too mention if you get hungry at midnight.

Laundry savings: Free laundry in your room means you can bring less luggage and not risk overweight bags. No trips to Disney coin laundry or paying a fortune for laundry service.

Rental car ease: No waiting on the Disney bus. Want to go to Downtown Disney? Easy drive. Want to go to dinner at a Disney resort? Get there in 10 minutes instead of 90 minutes if you're unlucky with the Disney buses. Want to grab a meal at a nearby non-Disney restaurant or hit the outlet mall? No problem with a car.

Brian Noble 10-09-2012 09:57 AM

There are three things you might want in WDW area lodging

1: To be onsite
2: To have a reasonable amount of space
3: To spend a reasonable amount of money.

Most of the time, you can't have all three at the same time, so you have to decide which one to give up. You can probably rent a 2-3 bedroom condo (with a full kitchen, washer/dryer, etc.) or maybe even a pool home (with a private heated pool), plus get a rental car and pay for theme park parking, for somewhere between what a Value and a Moderate room costs.

robinb 10-09-2012 10:26 AM

I think you're really smart to ask this question here and on the Resorts board. Usually people ONLY ask over on the Resorts board and get the standard 24/7 Pixie Dust answer.

Even though we own at DVC, we have stayed off site many times. We usually stay in a regular hotel room and not a condo, but I really want to stay in one of those Windsor Hills townhouses with their own private pool. Maybe on our next trip over Spring Break while my DD is still in middle school and will enjoy it.

I think your monetary saving are:
* Offsite hotels and condos are almost always cheaper than onsite hotels.
* If you have hotel points, you can even stay for free (we stayed at the Hilton Bonnet Creek and the Hyatt recently for free).
* You are more likely to eat lunch or dinner offsite since it's on your way "home" instead of paying the very expensive Disney food prices.
* If you have a condo ...
** You can cook breakfast in your room at the very least.
** You have your own private laundry so you can carry fewer clothes with you, saving on luggage fees.

Your expenses are:
* A rental car is just about a requirement.
* Parking fees at the WDW parks (free if you have an AP).

I think that you will have to do like cherylsmike and make up a spreadsheet. I did that for a family trip where we were considering having a 12 person family reunion at a pool home. In fairness, we ended up at Pop Century because Free Dining was announced and that was back when you could get the regular DDP included at the Value resorts. Pop was more expensive than just the pool home alone, but it turned out that we would have paid more to stay at the pool home and then pay for food in restaurants. We really never planned using the kitchen for dinners.

princessap 10-09-2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cherylsmike (Post 46385473)
I did the math and made a spreadsheet because I am resisting staying off-site. We will be staying at Wyndham Bonnet Creek in a One-bedroom villa because even with rental car (they do have a shuttle) and parking fees it is still much cheaper than a moderate ($649 for 8 nights plus $350 over estimate for car and parking total $1000 with the freedom of a car) or about the same price as the All-Stars without a car ($909). Tickets and food not included. Except at Bonnet Creek we get a King size bed, sofa, kitchen, washer/dryer, garden tub, and balcony. And it is closer to the action than the All-Stars. I am still struggling with the choice, but I figured for the space, comfort, and budget I can at least try it.

That is a great price for Bonnet Creek...do you mind me asking who you booked with?? You will love it there..have stayed twice and I am the opposite of you, having a hard time going onsite from off! lol


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