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Greysword 09-28-2012 12:02 PM

TSA "FREEZE" Drill
 
Apparently, the TSA conducts training to "freeze" a checkpoint to prevent movement into and out of an area where a potential threat may have been detected. The training is designed to familiarize the agents with the process; however, it seems they take the "freeze" command a bit more seriously than needed, as the TSA is want to do.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/val...eod_at_sky.php

I just wanted share, so we are familiar with these drills, in case you are subjected to it. Remember, this is only a drill ;)

CPT Tripss 09-28-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Greysword (Post 46292383)
Apparently, the TSA conducts training to "freeze" a checkpoint to prevent movement into and out of an area where a potential threat may have been detected. The training is designed to familiarize the agents with the process; however, it seems they take the "freeze" command a bit more seriously than needed, as the TSA is want to do.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/val...eod_at_sky.php

I just wanted share, so we are familiar with these drills, in case you are subjected to it. Remember, this is only a drill ;)

Only a drill and pax don't have to freeze even though the checkpoint will be closed for the duration of the drill.

DebbieB 09-28-2012 06:36 PM

I was going through the Atlanta checkpoint when there was a drill. Everyone had to freeze. I reached down to put my shoes back on and got yelled at.

CPT Tripss 09-29-2012 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DebbieB (Post 46295500)
I was going through the Atlanta checkpoint when there was a drill. Everyone had to freeze. I reached down to put my shoes back on and got yelled at.

Yelling is so professional.

DebbieB 09-29-2012 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CPT Tripss (Post 46298046)
Yelling is so professional.

He tried to be polite: "ma'am don't move". :rotfl:

MaxsDad 09-30-2012 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DebbieB
I was going through the Atlanta checkpoint when there was a drill. Everyone had to freeze. I reached down to put my shoes back on and got yelled at.

I have never heard of this drill, and while I understand the need to shut down a checkpoint there is no way I am going to stand like a statue, even if I am going to get yelled at. I am going to have to do some research on what the official rules are before I fly again.


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DebbieB 09-30-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxsDad (Post 46306267)
I have never heard of this drill, and while I understand the need to shut down a checkpoint there is no way I am going to stand like a statue, even if I am going to get yelled at. I am going to have to do some research on what the official rules are before I fly again.

You don't know it's a drill when it happens, they (the officers) may not either. One of the officers yelled "breach!". Then another one yelled "everyone freeze where you are". Then a couple minutes later one said "all clear" and then announced it was only a drill.

quigs3 09-30-2012 10:40 AM

I can't help but laugh at the thought of everyone freezing. It makes me think of the silly scene at the end of Christmas Vacation where everyone is frozen in those ridiculous positions at the Griswolds!

DebbieB 09-30-2012 10:58 AM

You don't have to completely freeze like a statue, just don't move ahead or reach for something (like I did). It may sound funny but it's actually serious because if there is a breach and they don't catch the person, they have to order everyone out of the terminal and go back through security.

CPT Tripss 10-02-2012 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxsDad (Post 46306267)
I have never heard of this drill, and while I understand the need to shut down a checkpoint there is no way I am going to stand like a statue, even if I am going to get yelled at. I am going to have to do some research on what the official rules are before I fly again.


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You might want to go here . . .
http://www.infowars.com/bizarre-tsa-...ght-on-camera/
and also here . . .
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/check...ught-tape.html

pr surfer 10-02-2012 11:59 PM

I've seen one in BOS... it was right after a checkpoint. I ignored, and continued on my way.

MaxsDad 10-03-2012 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CPT Tripss (Post 46324352)
You might want to go here . . .
http://www.infowars.com/bizarre-tsa-freeze-security-drill-caught-on-camera/

yeah, thanks but no thanks.

CPT Tripss 10-03-2012 02:11 AM

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“These drills are generally conducted during off-peak hours to minimize disruption, and generally last a minute,” said Kristin Lee, a spokeswoman for the agency. The agency conducts a range of security exercises, not all of them in public, to train checkpoint officers, she said.

Understood, I said. But still, am I, a citizen, required to stop motionless when the T.S.A. officers yell “freeze”?

Actually, no. The agency has “wide-ranging legal authority to carry out security-related responsibilities,” Ms Lee said. But in these specific drills, she added, “passengers are not required to ‘freeze’ in place like statues.” But if they are within the checkpoint security area, they may be required to remain there until the drill has ended, she said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/29/bu...road.html?_r=0

The entire article is worth a read.

Tonka's Skipper 10-03-2012 02:51 PM

Folks, please note the articales being posted are blogs, the NY times, all always wanting to stir up issues where there is no issues, except by a very few who refuse to admit the danger to the public without the TSA rules and procedures.

The drills like averything else happening today is for our protection and a small enough price to pay.

Just recently the US supreme court finally put to bed the law sues about the pay downs and scanners that have be over and over again ruled invalid, by finding it was not worth hearing.

I still say anyone thinking its to much to pay........can try and arrange for and fly on a plane where the passingers have not gone though secruity..........


AKK
AKK

Greysword 10-03-2012 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonka's Skipper (Post 46339097)
Folks, please note the articales being posted are blogs, the NY times, all always wanting to stir up issues where there is no issues, except by a very few who refuse to admit the danger to the public without the TSA rules and procedures.

The drills like averything else happening today is for our protection and a small enough price to pay.

Just recently the US supreme court finally put to bed the law sues about the pay downs and scanners that have be over and over again ruled invalid, by finding it was not worth hearing.

I still say anyone thinking its to much to pay........can try and arrange for and fly on a plane where the passingers have not gone though secruity..........


AKK
AKK

I posted the thread and the link to the newspaper blog to provide a heads up for our community, should we experience a drill in action.

However, I will say that I disagree with the implied notion (at least as how I read it) that the reports provided are nothing more than an attempt "to stir up issues where there is no issues". It is a fact that TSA agents do apply the rules subjectively, and there is a significant lack of consistency in how things are managed. In addition, there are weekly reports of TSA agents not performing their job properly.

To that end, I am curious if the real reason terrorists have not attempted another action on an aircraft originating from a United States airport is due to the vigilance of the FBI and the flying public as a whole, rather than the presence of the TSA.

Bottom line of the thread, though, is to make our community aware of the Freeze Drill, so if engaged by the TSA, they don't panic.


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