Father with heart issue has questions

I am not a bait taker, and I mean no offense to anyone! I will say that as an overweight person who has good energy and mobility, myself, I know that being heavy does not always determine one's evergy and mobility, but it in extreme cases, it can, of course. I mentioned my dad's weight because in his case, his heart condition has left him shockingly thin. In some cases, heart issues couple with extra weight, which can affect mobility, as well. All of this is just to say that I was surprised by the references to mobility being the concern for my father, but it makes sense now tha it's been explained to me in terms of disney's protocol. Peace!
 
too thin = frail = in bad health. Do you understand now? It's really painful to watch someone you love waste away to nothing. Do you feel better about yourself now that you've been mean to someone who's father may be dying soon?
There are no circumstances that either the OP or her father face that excuse putting other people down in comparison to him. She said what she said, it's right there. She didn't just say thin, she specifically called out "heavy" people and she lumped "heavy and "lazy" together. One could just ask easily criticize people who expect a DAS rather than take personal responsibility and use a rollator, wheelchair or EVC to meet their own needs. One might even say that a thin person who expects Disney to provide a way for them to skip lines rather than bring the seat they need is "lazy," as the OP calls it.
 
If you can't convince your father to use an EVC or wheelchair because he doesn't really have stamina issues, I think the best solution would be a rollator for him. Your dad could use a rollator (still walking) and it has a seat so while in line if he needs a quick rest he can sit on the seat for that and he also has an easy place to sit when he doesn't want to ride with your group. Hope you can show your father some options and try to explain that even though he doesn't need a mobility device in daily life Disney is much different and he might appreciate a little help. If your father doesn't want to push the rollator the whole time, for quick rides or ones you have fastpasses for he can park the rollator in the wheelchair/EVC little parking area if need be.

Good luck I hope you can figure something out for your father so he can join the family and have a nice trip.
 
I recommend an ECV, because it will give your Dad more independence than a wheelchair (since it sounds like he won't be able to self-propel) and will give him more stamina than a Rollator.

Remember that there can be a LOT of walking at WDW - the average guest can easily walk 5+ miles per day without realizing it. To and from buses, to and from food services at the Resort, if you visit Disney Springs... it all adds up. An ECV will give him the most mobility, and allow him to spend the most time with his family.

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I remember very vividly the first time I had to use an ECV at WDW. I thought I was going to die from sadness and humiliation and mortification. We were in the parks, and I had to call a vendor to bring out an ECV because I just couldn't walk anymore.

And then a funny thing happened.

I didn't die! (Look! You can tell, because I'm right here! LOL)

In fact, I had an *awesome* trip! Because I didn't hurt, we could stay and play all day in the parks. Because I wasn't limping from bench to bench, we could actually make progress - and go and see more, and do more. Because I wasn't so physically and emotionally wrung out at the end of the day from dealing with my pain, I was a much more pleasant traveling companion, and so by extension, everyone with me was happier as well.

Over the years, I have learned something important: The people you are with will take their cues from you. If your dad is upset and unhappy and scared and angry about using an ECV, they will be as well. If, on the other hand, he treats it as a non-event, they most likely will as well.

So your dad just needs to tell his sweet grandbabies that he is going to use this ECV here at Disney World so that we can all have fun together. End of sentence. The kids will be so excited to be there that they won't care. I promise!

Using an ECV is not a "cop out". It's not a "fail". It's simply using the best possible available TOOL to get the most possible enjoyment from his vacation.

If he needs glasses, does he refuse to wear them, going through life squinting at everyone and everything? Probably not.

If he needs to use a calculator to do math, does he refuse to touch it, and instead resort to pencil and paper - or counting on toes and fingers? Probably not.

Both of those - glasses and calculators - are TOOLS that we use every day to make our lives more efficient. At WDW, many people use an ECV as a tool to improve both their stamina, and their enjoyment of the vacation, and to manage pain.

There are many people who rent ECVs only at WDW - in their "regular" lives, they never need one or use one. If he is worried about other peoples perceptions of him, please don't let him be. The likelihood that he will EVER see any other guest from WDW again is so incredibly tiny that he has a better chance of getting hit by lightning AND winning the lottery in the same day.

So that you all can have the best trip possible, here's a few tips from an old pro:

- Plan ahead if you are flying. Remember that long lines at TSA - and long concourses inside terminals - can be problematic. You may want to consider bringing along a folding rollator or a wheelchair that someone in your party could push if you think he will need it.

- Similarly, if flying in to MCO, be sure to let DME know if you will need to use a lift to get in and out of the DME bus.

- Practicing ECV driving and parking skills with the electric carts at Wal-Mart, Target, Lowe's, the grocery store, etc. will help a great deal. If you can tame one of those giant, wheezing beasties, a mere rental at WDW will be a breeze! :)

- Please remember that WDW has a rule - for everyone's safety - that only one person rides the ECV. You will undoubtedly see people holding children on their laps while driving their scooters, but it's very dangerous, and I hope you will agree that safety comes first. One ECV, one rider.

- Bring a brightly colored scarf, ribbon or bandana to tie on your rental scooter. It will help it stand out in a sea of similar units (if you park it to ride, eat, or shop a bit).

- Remember to plug the scooter in at night to charge it. The scooter should be delivered with a full battery, but it will be up to you to make sure it is charged every night.

Speaking of your room, you will have to park the ECV in your room every night, so if you need to make a bit of space, ask for the table and chairs to be removed. You are not allowed to park it outside in a hallway or breezeway, or down at the lobby or bell services. If you just can't stand to have it in the room, go to the Front Desk, and work with the Concierge services to identify a location where it can be safely stowed and charged at night.

- If the scooter has a key, always take it with you.

- Don't be surprised if you park the ECV and it is moved when you return. The Cast Members are in a constant struggle to keep walkways clear and safe, as well as making sure that parking areas for mobility devices and strollers stay reasonably tidy. You will typically find it quite nearby, but if you don't, just ask any CM you see, and they will help you find it. (And here, our bandana or brightly colored ribbon will come in handy!)

- Remember to stay sharp and focused while driving the ECV - people at WDW tend to be doing everything but paying attention when they are walking, and many of us here have had folks run right into us, or walk right in front of us as we are moving!

Bipeds don't realize that many scooters can't just stop on a dime; some of them "coast" a bit before coming to a complete stop, even if the driver is hard on the brakes. To help keep everyone safe and whole, I try to make eye contact, smile politely, and offer an cheerful "Excuse me!" when needed, but know that you WILL at some point find yourself nearly running over someone who is either texting, taking a "selfie" or posting their latest selfie to Instagram. Little nuggets are also prone to running out in front of mobility devices because they are blissfully unaware of the laws of physics.

- Probably the hardest things you will do with the ECV all revolves around dealing with the buses. Make sure you are parked in the white painted rectangle at the bus stop (unless another guest beat you to it) so that the driver sees you, and knows you are waiting to ride.

When the ramp comes down, line up on the ramp, and try to go right up the center. At the top of the ramp you will typically have to turn a bit to the right. GO SLOWLY, especially until you are used to the ECV. Even experienced users take this carefully - the last thing you want is to run over the driver, or hit the side of the doorway going in. The drivers will give you instructions and will help as much as they can, but *technically* it is up to you (or a member of your party) to actually get the ECV up into (or back out of) the bus. You will always board first, and exit last.

- Practice a bit with your rental (at the Resort is a great spot for this) prior to going in to the parks. Get used to how it handles, turns, stops and starts. Every ECV is a bit different (just like any other vehicle). I have 2 personal ECVs, identical models and they each have their own "personality" (and name. Because I'm weird like that LOL)

- A few miscellaneous driving tips: anytime at WDW (or anytime using an ECV for that matter) be aware of ramps, hills and slopes. Going up, you will want to lean forward slightly to help shift your center of gravity towards the front of the ECV. Take your time on steep slopes, hills or ramps, and if possible, approach them at a slight angle at the base.

Coming down, be very aware of your speed, and make sure you can brake effectively. This is not the time to try and drink your Starbucks; two hands on the wheel!

When crossing the train tracks embedded in Main Street at MK, be sure to cross at an angle. Otherwise, you risk the wheel(s) getting caught, and you could find yourself dumped rather unceremoniously onto Main Street. Everyone wants to have an unforgettable trip - just for the right reasons!

°o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o°

I hope that your Dad will find a way - regardless of what it is - to share the wonder and magic of Disney World with his grandkids.
 


I recommend an ECV, because it will give your Dad more independence than a wheelchair (since it sounds like he won't be able to self-propel) and will give him more stamina than a Rollator.

Remember that there can be a LOT of walking at WDW - the average guest can easily walk 5+ miles per day without realizing it. To and from buses, to and from food services at the Resort, if you visit Disney Springs... it all adds up. An ECV will give him the most mobility, and allow him to spend the most time with his family.

°o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o°

I remember very vividly the first time I had to use an ECV at WDW. I thought I was going to die from sadness and humiliation and mortification. We were in the parks, and I had to call a vendor to bring out an ECV because I just couldn't walk anymore.

And then a funny thing happened.

I didn't die! (Look! You can tell, because I'm right here! LOL)

In fact, I had an *awesome* trip! Because I didn't hurt, we could stay and play all day in the parks. Because I wasn't limping from bench to bench, we could actually make progress - and go and see more, and do more. Because I wasn't so physically and emotionally wrung out at the end of the day from dealing with my pain, I was a much more pleasant traveling companion, and so by extension, everyone with me was happier as well.

Over the years, I have learned something important: The people you are with will take their cues from you. If your dad is upset and unhappy and scared and angry about using an ECV, they will be as well. If, on the other hand, he treats it as a non-event, they most likely will as well.

So your dad just needs to tell his sweet grandbabies that he is going to use this ECV here at Disney World so that we can all have fun together. End of sentence. The kids will be so excited to be there that they won't care. I promise!

Using an ECV is not a "cop out". It's not a "fail". It's simply using the best possible available TOOL to get the most possible enjoyment from his vacation.

If he needs glasses, does he refuse to wear them, going through life squinting at everyone and everything? Probably not.

If he needs to use a calculator to do math, does he refuse to touch it, and instead resort to pencil and paper - or counting on toes and fingers? Probably not.

Both of those - glasses and calculators - are TOOLS that we use every day to make our lives more efficient. At WDW, many people use an ECV as a tool to improve both their stamina, and their enjoyment of the vacation, and to manage pain.

There are many people who rent ECVs only at WDW - in their "regular" lives, they never need one or use one. If he is worried about other peoples perceptions of him, please don't let him be. The likelihood that he will EVER see any other guest from WDW again is so incredibly tiny that he has a better chance of getting hit by lightning AND winning the lottery in the same day.

So that you all can have the best trip possible, here's a few tips from an old pro:

- Plan ahead if you are flying. Remember that long lines at TSA - and long concourses inside terminals - can be problematic. You may want to consider bringing along a folding rollator or a wheelchair that someone in your party could push if you think he will need it.

- Similarly, if flying in to MCO, be sure to let DME know if you will need to use a lift to get in and out of the DME bus.

- Practicing ECV driving and parking skills with the electric carts at Wal-Mart, Target, Lowe's, the grocery store, etc. will help a great deal. If you can tame one of those giant, wheezing beasties, a mere rental at WDW will be a breeze! :)

- Please remember that WDW has a rule - for everyone's safety - that only one person rides the ECV. You will undoubtedly see people holding children on their laps while driving their scooters, but it's very dangerous, and I hope you will agree that safety comes first. One ECV, one rider.

- Bring a brightly colored scarf, ribbon or bandana to tie on your rental scooter. It will help it stand out in a sea of similar units (if you park it to ride, eat, or shop a bit).

- Remember to plug the scooter in at night to charge it. The scooter should be delivered with a full battery, but it will be up to you to make sure it is charged every night.

Speaking of your room, you will have to park the ECV in your room every night, so if you need to make a bit of space, ask for the table and chairs to be removed. You are not allowed to park it outside in a hallway or breezeway, or down at the lobby or bell services. If you just can't stand to have it in the room, go to the Front Desk, and work with the Concierge services to identify a location where it can be safely stowed and charged at night.

- If the scooter has a key, always take it with you.

- Don't be surprised if you park the ECV and it is moved when you return. The Cast Members are in a constant struggle to keep walkways clear and safe, as well as making sure that parking areas for mobility devices and strollers stay reasonably tidy. You will typically find it quite nearby, but if you don't, just ask any CM you see, and they will help you find it. (And here, our bandana or brightly colored ribbon will come in handy!)

- Remember to stay sharp and focused while driving the ECV - people at WDW tend to be doing everything but paying attention when they are walking, and many of us here have had folks run right into us, or walk right in front of us as we are moving!

Bipeds don't realize that many scooters can't just stop on a dime; some of them "coast" a bit before coming to a complete stop, even if the driver is hard on the brakes. To help keep everyone safe and whole, I try to make eye contact, smile politely, and offer an cheerful "Excuse me!" when needed, but know that you WILL at some point find yourself nearly running over someone who is either texting, taking a "selfie" or posting their latest selfie to Instagram. Little nuggets are also prone to running out in front of mobility devices because they are blissfully unaware of the laws of physics.

- Probably the hardest things you will do with the ECV all revolves around dealing with the buses. Make sure you are parked in the white painted rectangle at the bus stop (unless another guest beat you to it) so that the driver sees you, and knows you are waiting to ride.

When the ramp comes down, line up on the ramp, and try to go right up the center. At the top of the ramp you will typically have to turn a bit to the right. GO SLOWLY, especially until you are used to the ECV. Even experienced users take this carefully - the last thing you want is to run over the driver, or hit the side of the doorway going in. The drivers will give you instructions and will help as much as they can, but *technically* it is up to you (or a member of your party) to actually get the ECV up into (or back out of) the bus. You will always board first, and exit last.

- Practice a bit with your rental (at the Resort is a great spot for this) prior to going in to the parks. Get used to how it handles, turns, stops and starts. Every ECV is a bit different (just like any other vehicle). I have 2 personal ECVs, identical models and they each have their own "personality" (and name. Because I'm weird like that LOL)

- A few miscellaneous driving tips: anytime at WDW (or anytime using an ECV for that matter) be aware of ramps, hills and slopes. Going up, you will want to lean forward slightly to help shift your center of gravity towards the front of the ECV. Take your time on steep slopes, hills or ramps, and if possible, approach them at a slight angle at the base.

Coming down, be very aware of your speed, and make sure you can brake effectively. This is not the time to try and drink your Starbucks; two hands on the wheel!

When crossing the train tracks embedded in Main Street at MK, be sure to cross at an angle. Otherwise, you risk the wheel(s) getting caught, and you could find yourself dumped rather unceremoniously onto Main Street. Everyone wants to have an unforgettable trip - just for the right reasons!

°o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o°

I hope that your Dad will find a way - regardless of what it is - to share the wonder and magic of Disney World with his grandkids.
Thank you for sharing your experience, advice, and kindness. : )
 
There are no circumstances that either the OP or her father face that excuse putting other people down in comparison to him. She said what she said, it's right there. She didn't just say thin, she specifically called out "heavy" people and she lumped "heavy and "lazy" together. One could just ask easily criticize people who expect a DAS rather than take personal responsibility and use a rollator, wheelchair or EVC to meet their own needs. One might even say that a thin person who expects Disney to provide a way for them to skip lines rather than bring the seat they need is "lazy," as the OP calls it.

Since you're the only one who took it that way, it's a safe assumption that you're reading too much into it.
 
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I recommend an ECV, because it will give your Dad more independence than a wheelchair (since it sounds like he won't be able to self-propel) and will give him more stamina than a Rollator.

Remember that there can be a LOT of walking at WDW - the average guest can easily walk 5+ miles per day without realizing it. To and from buses, to and from food services at the Resort, if you visit Disney Springs... it all adds up. An ECV will give him the most mobility, and allow him to spend the most time with his family.

°o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o°

I remember very vividly the first time I had to use an ECV at WDW. I thought I was going to die from sadness and humiliation and mortification. We were in the parks, and I had to call a vendor to bring out an ECV because I just couldn't walk anymore.

And then a funny thing happened.

I didn't die! (Look! You can tell, because I'm right here! LOL)

In fact, I had an *awesome* trip! Because I didn't hurt, we could stay and play all day in the parks. Because I wasn't limping from bench to bench, we could actually make progress - and go and see more, and do more. Because I wasn't so physically and emotionally wrung out at the end of the day from dealing with my pain, I was a much more pleasant traveling companion, and so by extension, everyone with me was happier as well.

Over the years, I have learned something important: The people you are with will take their cues from you. If your dad is upset and unhappy and scared and angry about using an ECV, they will be as well. If, on the other hand, he treats it as a non-event, they most likely will as well.

So your dad just needs to tell his sweet grandbabies that he is going to use this ECV here at Disney World so that we can all have fun together. End of sentence. The kids will be so excited to be there that they won't care. I promise!

Using an ECV is not a "cop out". It's not a "fail". It's simply using the best possible available TOOL to get the most possible enjoyment from his vacation.

If he needs glasses, does he refuse to wear them, going through life squinting at everyone and everything? Probably not.

If he needs to use a calculator to do math, does he refuse to touch it, and instead resort to pencil and paper - or counting on toes and fingers? Probably not.

Both of those - glasses and calculators - are TOOLS that we use every day to make our lives more efficient. At WDW, many people use an ECV as a tool to improve both their stamina, and their enjoyment of the vacation, and to manage pain.

There are many people who rent ECVs only at WDW - in their "regular" lives, they never need one or use one. If he is worried about other peoples perceptions of him, please don't let him be. The likelihood that he will EVER see any other guest from WDW again is so incredibly tiny that he has a better chance of getting hit by lightning AND winning the lottery in the same day.

So that you all can have the best trip possible, here's a few tips from an old pro:

- Plan ahead if you are flying. Remember that long lines at TSA - and long concourses inside terminals - can be problematic. You may want to consider bringing along a folding rollator or a wheelchair that someone in your party could push if you think he will need it.

- Similarly, if flying in to MCO, be sure to let DME know if you will need to use a lift to get in and out of the DME bus.

- Practicing ECV driving and parking skills with the electric carts at Wal-Mart, Target, Lowe's, the grocery store, etc. will help a great deal. If you can tame one of those giant, wheezing beasties, a mere rental at WDW will be a breeze! :)

- Please remember that WDW has a rule - for everyone's safety - that only one person rides the ECV. You will undoubtedly see people holding children on their laps while driving their scooters, but it's very dangerous, and I hope you will agree that safety comes first. One ECV, one rider.

- Bring a brightly colored scarf, ribbon or bandana to tie on your rental scooter. It will help it stand out in a sea of similar units (if you park it to ride, eat, or shop a bit).

- Remember to plug the scooter in at night to charge it. The scooter should be delivered with a full battery, but it will be up to you to make sure it is charged every night.

Speaking of your room, you will have to park the ECV in your room every night, so if you need to make a bit of space, ask for the table and chairs to be removed. You are not allowed to park it outside in a hallway or breezeway, or down at the lobby or bell services. If you just can't stand to have it in the room, go to the Front Desk, and work with the Concierge services to identify a location where it can be safely stowed and charged at night.

- If the scooter has a key, always take it with you.

- Don't be surprised if you park the ECV and it is moved when you return. The Cast Members are in a constant struggle to keep walkways clear and safe, as well as making sure that parking areas for mobility devices and strollers stay reasonably tidy. You will typically find it quite nearby, but if you don't, just ask any CM you see, and they will help you find it. (And here, our bandana or brightly colored ribbon will come in handy!)

- Remember to stay sharp and focused while driving the ECV - people at WDW tend to be doing everything but paying attention when they are walking, and many of us here have had folks run right into us, or walk right in front of us as we are moving!

Bipeds don't realize that many scooters can't just stop on a dime; some of them "coast" a bit before coming to a complete stop, even if the driver is hard on the brakes. To help keep everyone safe and whole, I try to make eye contact, smile politely, and offer an cheerful "Excuse me!" when needed, but know that you WILL at some point find yourself nearly running over someone who is either texting, taking a "selfie" or posting their latest selfie to Instagram. Little nuggets are also prone to running out in front of mobility devices because they are blissfully unaware of the laws of physics.

- Probably the hardest things you will do with the ECV all revolves around dealing with the buses. Make sure you are parked in the white painted rectangle at the bus stop (unless another guest beat you to it) so that the driver sees you, and knows you are waiting to ride.

When the ramp comes down, line up on the ramp, and try to go right up the center. At the top of the ramp you will typically have to turn a bit to the right. GO SLOWLY, especially until you are used to the ECV. Even experienced users take this carefully - the last thing you want is to run over the driver, or hit the side of the doorway going in. The drivers will give you instructions and will help as much as they can, but *technically* it is up to you (or a member of your party) to actually get the ECV up into (or back out of) the bus. You will always board first, and exit last.

- Practice a bit with your rental (at the Resort is a great spot for this) prior to going in to the parks. Get used to how it handles, turns, stops and starts. Every ECV is a bit different (just like any other vehicle). I have 2 personal ECVs, identical models and they each have their own "personality" (and name. Because I'm weird like that LOL)

- A few miscellaneous driving tips: anytime at WDW (or anytime using an ECV for that matter) be aware of ramps, hills and slopes. Going up, you will want to lean forward slightly to help shift your center of gravity towards the front of the ECV. Take your time on steep slopes, hills or ramps, and if possible, approach them at a slight angle at the base.

Coming down, be very aware of your speed, and make sure you can brake effectively. This is not the time to try and drink your Starbucks; two hands on the wheel!

When crossing the train tracks embedded in Main Street at MK, be sure to cross at an angle. Otherwise, you risk the wheel(s) getting caught, and you could find yourself dumped rather unceremoniously onto Main Street. Everyone wants to have an unforgettable trip - just for the right reasons!

°o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o° °o°

I hope that your Dad will find a way - regardless of what it is - to share the wonder and magic of Disney World with his grandkids.

Just remember that with an ECV you can not push it ( easily ) so you or your dad will have to drive it from place to place You did say your dad can walk fine he just needs some where to sit a wheel chair or a roller would allow him to walk and have a place to sit.

Also have you thought about showing your dad this thread or maybe a few of the post that he could read It might help him to read some of them
 


Also, if your father needs a cool, quiet place to relax, he can always go to first aid, even if there's nothing they can do for him. They have little beds he could lay on.
 
Yea, I think a big part of our plan is going to be strategizing which hours he can be in the park; he simply can't spend the whole day there, and mornings are especially hard for him, so the whole rope drop thing will not work. Mid afternoon rests, maybe at the resort, are probably a must, which is why we chose Boardwalk and plan to do mostly Epcot and HS. I so want this trip to happen for him, mostly because his life has narrowed so much since his condition worsened.
 
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I hope you can convince him that using an ECV is the best option for him. Even if you manage to get a DAS (which, like everyone, I put at well under 50% chance) you still wait in lines, it's just the actual lines are shorter. It isn't a front of line pass. He will still have the same issue that if he needs to sit, he can't. At least with a ECV or rollator, he will have that option.

I will be in the same position with my mother in a couple of month. For our next trip, she will need an ECV. She doesn't think she needs one because she "mostly" mobile. She has no issues at home and even walking at local parks or attractions, but Disney is a whole other level. I think she could manage one day, but then she'd be done for the rest of the time. It's hard to be in the position of telling your parent that they need a bit of extra help, and very hard to be the parent that needs to accept it. An ECV is a physical reminder that their bodies can't function like they used to. It's a HUGE step, but you can survey people on this board and almost universally they will say that the first time was hard, but SO worth it.
 
Thank you! One minute I am convinced I can make this happen and the next I am not so sure, but it would be so god for my boys to have these memories with my dad and food for him to have a bigger experience than just being at home and sticking around town!
 
I can speak from experience doing WDW with very similar heart conditions. Granted I also have a few other physical challenges but the heart stuff is always the scariest and most unpredictable. That said, I can't imagine anything guests sevices or DAS can do for me so I've never even thought about trying. An ECV has always been the perfect solution. It was difficult/embarrassing/awkward at first - for about five minutes! Then I realized what security and freedom it offered, for both me and the other members of my party. I could go where and when the rest went and nobody had to compromise their activities to suit me. I breathed a huge sigh of relief right off the bat. Your dad will be in an especially perfect location to use one, having the option to simply use the walking paths to the parks if wanted.

A couple of important tips to remember: 1. dehydration can greatly exacerbate arrhythmia and, even when keeping cool and rested, dehydration can occur surprisingly easily. 2. After I have a spell of arrhythmia I usually feel exhausted - often for several hours. So having the ECV to recover or simply to make it back to the hotel room may be far more important than you realize.

I do so hope something works for you!
 
OP ask your father to pick a spot about 1/2 a mile away. Can he walk to it? and back. Three times? and get up tomorrow and do it all over? Even an easy day at Disney can be three miles a day. To walk around world showcase in Epcot is about a mile. and that is just half the park not counting wandering around the stores. My MIL is thin to the point of frail. She actually still works but needed to use an evc during our trip with her a few years ago. There is no way she should have done the trip without it. I would take him to a zoo or even a large mall and see how he does walking around. He may take to the idea of an ecv if you present it as a tool that will allow him to spend more quality time with his family. He will be able to extend how long he is out each day and not be as tired the following. Pride is a fragile thing, but sometimes it gets in the way of making the most of experiences.
 
I would definitely agree with the ECV group, maybe you can sell it to him as a share. That you might want to sit a few mins too. Tell him you can swap between rides if he wants. After a ride or too you can just let him keep it. And how nice it would be to be able to put stuff in the basket.
I have a hole in my Achilles' tendon and have shared a ECV with a friend before.
 
Here are top 5 Reasons that people think they shouldn't get an ECV when they should.

I can't drive one. Go to your local Costco/Walmart/Target or other large store. They probably have an electric cart type thing that you could use while shopping. Try it out. I bet you can drive it.

People might think I don't really need it because I can walk. Are these people going to share the pain with you at the end of the day? Do you care what they think? Save your walking energy between rides and use it for lines or getting on the rides. Enjoy your family and your vacation.

It will slow my family down. No, actually it will speed your family up. No more rests because mom is tired. No more going back to the hotel because grandpa is in pain. No more cranky mommy because she tried to walk miles and miles in Disney instead of renting an ECV. You are completely mobile on your own (nobody pushing you in a wheelchair). What's the slow down here?

It's expensive. Um, how much are you spending on this vacation? Don't you want to enjoy it? If money is that tight, take a day off of your trip and spend that money on the ECV so you can enjoy it!

I don't want my kids/family to think I am disabled. You are either temporarily or permanently disabled in some way if you are even asking about this issue...once again, why not make it a better vacation by saving yourself from pain? Nobody is saying you have to confine yourself to a wheelchair permanently or you should not stop trying to get better. If somebody told you to go walk 4 miles, you would think they are crazy. But you are paying for the privilege when you go to Disney to do just that...why not use an ECV to make your family's vacation better?
 
OP, I hope you can convince dad to use the ECV. My dad came to a point where he needed one but he was embarrassed to get one. He spent a day in pain walking around the park and realized that so many folks use them and no one batted an eyelash at them. So, he rented one and discovered that it was the best decision he could have made. It allowed him to spend the whole day in the park with us without pain. He could walk a little and rest when tired. Without the ECV, he would never have been able to spend time in the parks with his grandsons before he died. If this is what you want to do, I suggest talking to him about how common it is for people to use ECVs in the parks. No one will judge him.
 
DAS is to enable a person who can't wait in line to wait somewhere else. A person who is unable to stand can wait in line if they have a mobility device (wheelchair or scooter.) He would need to have some other need that couldn't be accommodated by a mobility device.

For the purpose of issuance of a DAS, only the needs are relevant, not the diagnosis or the specific disability. And, as noted, the DAS would not help him outside of attraction queues. If he is in need of an immediately accessible place to sit when needed, he should probably have a wheelchair or scooter.
 
I actually think he will be okay with the three FP+ per day, it doesn't sound like he will be in the park for long periods or going on the rides that usually have long lines. My bigger concern is the long walk from the resort to transportation through the front entrances and back into the parks to where the attractions are. Just that is quite a long walk and I would have a wheelchair just in case. My very stubborn mother did end up agreeing to use one during a past trip because the walk just from the Beach Club to Spaceship Earth for instance is really quite a distance. She has thankfully had some improvement and did not need it the past two trips (I've also built in more down time for her at the resort).

The Boardwalk resort is quite nice and it would be wonderful if he could come along with your family, even to enjoy the resort and restaurants there, ride the ferry to Epcot or DHS which stops right outside the resort and take in a few attractions in the parks.
 

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