Zika - Anyone Concerned About Their Cruise?

xlxo said:
Do you want to have children?
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I have plenty of offer for kids from my neighbors but I have declined to date. No plans soon to have kids.
There is still a debate on if there is long term affects. The Zika virus outbreak has been out for a while and the birth defects are only starting to show now.
I completely understand people not wanting to risk it.

https://www.quora.com/Does-Zika-Virus-permanently-affect-a-person-from-having-children

Drew Smith, former R&D director at MicroPhage and SomaLogic
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Probably not, but there is nowhere near enough knowledge about how the infection causes birth defects to rule out long-term effects.

Zika virus is cleared from the blood in about a week [1] , but persists for longer periods in urine and semen [2] . Whether it persists for longer periods in other tissues, where it might affect pregnancies is unknown. It is also unknown if the virus causes birth defects directly, or if birth defects are a consequence of an auto-immune reaction to the virus. If it is the second, then health effects of infection could persist long after the virus has been cleared.

However, epidemiology is starting to suggest that the virus has no long-term effect on pregnancies and birth defects. Areas in which the Zika epidemic is "burning out", because nearly everyone has been infected and is now immune, are seeing a drop in the rates of microcephaly [3] . This pattern suggests that long-term effects of Zika on birth defects are rare or non-existent.
 
We are on the western Caribbean route in August and I admit I did change our planned excursion from the Xel Ha (which I really wanted to go to) to a scuba diving excursion in Cozumel because I just thought going into the river/jungle areas of Mexico for the entire day was inviting way too much risk. I am not planning on having any more kids and we are all in good health, but I get the concern. Having said that, we live in Florida and there are a ton of mosquitos here too, so I question whether I went overboard on canceling the Xel Ha visit, but I feel a little better minimizing the exposure to mosquitoes even if just a little bit
 
phinz said:
"The silver lining for Florida: none of the Zika cases confirmed so far have been transmitted locally by mosquitoes."
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unfortunately, at least 4 cases have been confirmed to have been locally transmitted in south florida....
while locally transmitted zika in florida shouldn't alter vacation plans for most people, those who are pregnant or might become pregnant may need to take this new development into consideration
 


Doing the Eastern Caribbean on the Fantasy in January, hadn't really given it too much thought to be honest. Will probably bring bug spray but certainly not cancelling our cruise over it.
Not pregnant, not getting pregnant again and we're all in good health.
 
disneyholic family said:
unfortunately, at least 4 cases have been confirmed to have been locally transmitted in south florida....
while locally transmitted zika in florida shouldn't alter vacation plans for most people, those who are pregnant or might become pregnant may need to take this new development into consideration
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This is in Miami.
 
I have a comprimised immune system and I am not concerned. I am taking spray with deeta in. Covering up. If you are planning on having a family anytime soon different story. But I am looking at risk and it seems more likely I will trip or get food poisning!
 


There has just been an government advisory notice in the UK not to travel to Florida if pregnant unless absolutely necessary.
 
DISNEY FANTASY said:
This is in Miami.
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yes, if you read what i wrote, i wrote "south florida", as in miami....

however, that being said, if i were pregnant, i would have second thoughts about traveling to anywhere in florida now that it has been confirmed to be in the state...
and as the post above says, the UK has just issued a travel advisory regarding travel to florida if you're pregnant ..

editing my post to add links to the articles about the UK travel warning:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...to-delay-florida-travel-over-zika-virus-fears

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...rida-prompts-travel-warning-for-pregnant-wom/

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36929641

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I remember when the media was telling us we would all die from West Nile virus. Now it's just everywhere and you never hear anything about it. And they sure don't talk about all the resistant TB that is now in the country due to us shipping people in. I'm more worried about the stuff the media doesn't talk about.
 
If I were a pregnant woman right now, I would go on the assumption that there's mosquito transmission all over the Miami area," warned Dr. Peter Hotez, a tropical medicine expert at the Baylor College of Medicine.

He said that there are probably more cases that have not been diagnosed and that people should not be surprised if mosquitoes are soon found to be spreading Zika in Louisiana and Texas as well.


More than 1,650 people in the mainland U.S. have been infected with Zika in recent months, nearly all while traveling abroad. The four people in Florida are believed to be first ones to contract the virus from mosquitoes within the 50 states.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/article92788467.html#storylink=cpy
 
Because mosquitos love me, I've been researching repellents. I'm going to be picking up Sawyer Fishermen's Friend Picaridin. It won the consumer reports test and is effective against the species of mosquitos that can carry Zika. I may pick it up tomorrow as DH and I like to go on walks. I believe it's considered safe on young children as well, just not infants.
 
Since I'm never going to be pregnant again it wouldn't concern me. I've never gotten a mosquito bite in the Caribbean or Florida so I wouldn't bother with bug spray. Mosquito's are usually found around lakes and stagnant bodies of water. If your headed to the swampy everglades I could see the need to for bug spray.

I do understand why pregnant women would have concerns.
 
I haven't really thought about it....I just got back from a WDW stay and did not use bug spray and didn't get bitten. I wonder if Disney is spraying, but I didn't come across any mosquitos. Going on the Dream in a few weeks, and I'm not worried. But I may bring bug spray just in case. And remember it's a day time thing...the mosquitos that come out at dusk are not carriers....at least that's what they told us at the last FL dept. of health meeting.
 
Love2Cruz said:
I haven't really thought about it....I just got back from a WDW stay and did not use bug spray and didn't get bitten. I wonder if Disney is spraying, but I didn't come across any mosquitos. Going on the Dream in a few weeks, and I'm not worried. But I may bring bug spray just in case. And remember it's a day time thing...the mosquitos that come out at dusk are not carriers....at least that's what they told us at the last FL dept. of health meeting.
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WDW has always sprayed, not just now.....it's a daily regimen on property...
 
Imahikergirl said:
Because mosquitos love me, I've been researching repellents. I'm going to be picking up Sawyer Fishermen's Friend Picaridin. It won the consumer reports test and is effective against the species of mosquitos that can carry Zika. I may pick it up tomorrow as DH and I like to go on walks. I believe it's considered safe on young children as well, just not infants.
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i'm editing as i just did a bit of research myself - since i was surprised at your post, since sawyer's doesn't have deet in it...and all the recommendations say deet...
but then i found this on consumer reports which confirms what you posted!!

The Most Effective Insect Repellents
To find the most effective mosquito repellents, we tested products containing a variety of ingredients, including deet, picaridin, oil of lemon eucalyptus, chemicals called IR3535 and 2-undecanone, as well as a variety of plant oils, such as cedar, citronella, geraniol, lemongrass, and rosemary.

The most effective products against Aedes mosquitoes were Sawyer Picaridin and Natrapel 8 Hour, which each contain 20 percent picaridin, and Off! Deepwoods VIII, which contains 25 percent deet. They kept the mosquitoes from biting for about 8 hours. (The Sawyer product was our top insect repellent overall. It was the only one that also kept Culex mosquitoes, which can spread West Nile disease, and deer ticks, which can spread Lyme disease, away for at least 8 hours.)

Ben's 30% DEET Tick & Insect Wilderness Formula kept Aedes mosquitoes away for 7.5 hours and Repel Lemon Eucalyptus, containing 30 percent lemon eucalyptus, stopped them for 7 hours.

The IR3535 products didn’t make our list of recommended sprays. Neither did repellents with 2-Undecananone or those that contained 7 percent deet or less than 20 percent picaridin.

We advise skipping most products made with natural plant oils, such as California Baby Natural Bug Blend (a blend of citronella, lemongrass oil, cedar oil, and other ingredients) and EcoSmart Organic, (which includes geraniol, rosemary oil, cinnamon oil, and lemongrass oil). They did not last for more than 1 hour against Aedes mosquitoes, and some failed almost immediately.

In addition, those products are not registered by the Environmental Protection Agency, which regulates skin-applied repellents and evaluates them for safety and effectiveness. Most plant-oil products are exempt from scrutiny by the EPA because the agency considers them to be a minimum risk to human health.

Instead, the CDC recommends using EPA-registered insect repellents. To see if a mosquito repellent is registered by the EPA, look for its registration number ("EPA Reg.") on the back of the label.​
 
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You're welcome. I love doing research. :)

A couple of other things to note:

The Aedes Mosquito can also carry the Chikungunya virus which can cause joint pain for months. Chikungunya has been overtaken by Zika in the media but is still a concern as well.

The CDC does not recommend the sunscreens with DEET in them, as sunscreens should be reapplied and reapplication can lead to concentrations of DEET that can get too high.
 
Imahikergirl said:
You're welcome. I love doing research. :)

A couple of other things to note:

The Aedes Mosquito can also carry the Chikungunya virus which can cause joint pain for months. Chikungunya has been overtaken by Zika in the media but is still a concern as well.

The CDC does not recommend the sunscreens with DEET in them, as sunscreens should be reapplied and reapplication can lead to concentrations of DEET that can get too high.
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yeah, i saw that....i've been reading and watching videos about it now....having to wear all those chemicals all over the body pretty much non-stop is a bit disturbing to me...especially the thought of putting it on the toddlers....

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