I'm working on the plans for our next trip. Our family consists of myself, DW, DD4, DD1. At MK, we will have to take turns waiting with DD1 on some rides, so we will do the child swap on those. But, when looking at fast pass selections, it looks like DW and I could choose some different rides and basically increase our overall fast pass #'s. Our overall goal is for DD4 to get to ride as many rides as possible. If I get a fast pass for something like Peter Pan and take DD4 with me, would she also need a fast pass? Would they let her go with me without one? I know technically she would need one, but I thought they may let her go anyway. Has anyone every tried this?
Question about 4 year old and fast passes
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bigbabyblues
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I am pretty sure if she is old enough to require a ticket, she will need a fp.
ArielSRL
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I think she would only need one to ride twice. Like she will need one to go through with the parent who has a FP, but she can go with the parent with a child swap without the FP. @hiroMYhero is very good at answering these type questions, though.
hiroMYhero
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DD will need a FP if you want her with the Adult #1. On the Swap, she can ride again with Adult #2 without needing a FP.
Or, Adult #1 has a FP and rides and then Adult #2 and DD ride on the Swap. Split the Adult FPs and decide which 3 DD will have and she will get at least 9 rides on height restricted rides.
Or, Adult #1 has a FP and rides and then Adult #2 and DD ride on the Swap. Split the Adult FPs and decide which 3 DD will have and she will get at least 9 rides on height restricted rides.
Ok, thanks. I didn't think my original idea would work, but I thought I would ask. It looks like I need to rearrange some of my fast passes so that we end up using all of them. This fast pass / child swap system is really nice. We didn't know about child swap the last time. It could have saved us some time.
I think I have a related question, and perhaps the answer is obvious. But if I have three children ages 7, 5 and 1 and I use the child swap, can I do the following?
Have my wife set up 3 FP+ with the 7 and 5 year old having the same FP+.
Then I get 3 entirely different 3 FP+.
My wife rides her FP+ with the 7 and 5 year olds while I wait with the 1 year old. Then I ride with the 7 and 5 year old without using my own FP+. I then can use MY FP+ later in the day on things the 1 year old would like to do, since the 1 year old does not need a FP+ for anything.
Do you think that is the best way to maximize FP+ if you assume my 7 and 5 year old won't ride anything by themselves? In other words, it does them no good to have a FP+ that either my wife or I don't also have and can join them on. This way the older two kids get to ride FP+ rides six times (the same three my wife did, but twice). And either my wife or me can do an additional 3 FP+ rides/M&Gs with the one year old. Does that make sense/work?
I suppose another alternative is that rather than use MY FP+ on my one year old, I just use it on other rides for my wife and the older two kids. In that case, each of my older two can effective go on six different FP+ rides (three with mom and three with dad) twice each, assuming we use the child pass? Come to think of it, maybe the latter is the best strategy and we just wait in line for anything appropriate for the one year old (like meeting characters).
My head is spinning.
Have my wife set up 3 FP+ with the 7 and 5 year old having the same FP+.
Then I get 3 entirely different 3 FP+.
My wife rides her FP+ with the 7 and 5 year olds while I wait with the 1 year old. Then I ride with the 7 and 5 year old without using my own FP+. I then can use MY FP+ later in the day on things the 1 year old would like to do, since the 1 year old does not need a FP+ for anything.
Do you think that is the best way to maximize FP+ if you assume my 7 and 5 year old won't ride anything by themselves? In other words, it does them no good to have a FP+ that either my wife or I don't also have and can join them on. This way the older two kids get to ride FP+ rides six times (the same three my wife did, but twice). And either my wife or me can do an additional 3 FP+ rides/M&Gs with the one year old. Does that make sense/work?
I suppose another alternative is that rather than use MY FP+ on my one year old, I just use it on other rides for my wife and the older two kids. In that case, each of my older two can effective go on six different FP+ rides (three with mom and three with dad) twice each, assuming we use the child pass? Come to think of it, maybe the latter is the best strategy and we just wait in line for anything appropriate for the one year old (like meeting characters).
My head is spinning.
hiroMYhero
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It's 9.
DD has her own 3 FPs and the re-rides on the Swap (3) = 6
Adult #1 has 3 FP without DD so DD rides on the Swap = 3
9 total in Disney Common Core
hiroMYhero
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Yes, your complete scenario makes sense because you aren't leaving out the 1 year-old.
Remember, when you get your 4th FPs at the kiosk, Rider Swap can also be used with those.
Is there any situation in which a parent does not need a FP+ aside from the rider switch strategy? When I went when my children were 3 and 1, my wife and I were pretty bummed that we had to use our own FP+ on character meetings. We could barely take advantage of the rider switch because of planning around the kids stuff. Of course, the kids were too small to go on a number of rides, so we were strictly solo riders on the bigger rides while the other took care of them.
hiroMYhero
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An adult always needs a FP to enter a FP line for a FP attraction except on the Swap as you noted.
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disney world dreamer
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everyone ages 3+ needs a FP+ just like they need a park ticket.
not sure why you would think that disney would bend the rules for you.
not sure why you would think that disney would bend the rules for you.
It's 9.
DD has her own 3 FPs and the re-rides on the Swap (3) = 6
Adult #1 has 3 FP without DD so DD rides on the Swap = 3
9 total in Disney Common Core
ONe point of clarification... the older child gets to ride something 9 times, however they only get to do 6 different rides with fp/swap. (I think this was the disconnect above)
hiroMYhero
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The PP didn't factor in the "Swap-only" rides.
Not trying to break or bend any rules. Just trying to understand what the rules are. The child swap strategy where you bring your kids with the second adult (when the kids don't otherwise have FP+ for that ride) seems like a fair bit of bending to me. I'm not sure that the system was necessarily intended to be used that way. Just wondering about other strategies. For someone with only young children (3 and under), it is pretty difficult to manage the FP+. You have to choose only M&Gs or rides for small children for everyone in your party or else forfeit one or more FP+ for your kids since they can't even do a M&G or kid ride without you. It's just the system. I get it. But the child pass is a nice quirk and I was just wondering about any others. That's all.
Well or you can do this.
Adult 1: gets a FP for Space mountain, Pooh and Peter pan
Adult 2: gets a FP for BTMRR, Dumbo, and peter pan
Children: Get FP (or are under 3 and don't need any) for Pooh, Peter pan and Dumbo
Adult 1 and children ride Pooh
Adult 2 and children ride Dumbo
Everyone rides peterpan together
Adult 1 rides space mountain while getting a child swap pass (you don't need an older kid for this) so that adult 2 can ride with the swap.
Adult 2 rides BTMRR while getting a child swap pass so adult 1 can ride with swap.
All you gave up while maximizing passes is one adult getting to see the kids on 1 kid ride each.
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