How are single rider lines handled with wc?

Scooterbritches · Feb 5, 2016

I'd like to take advantage of the shorter lines that single rider lines offer at both universal and wdw. I've never used a wc before, don't really hardly need one, but it will help with pain that is exacerabated by standing/sitting for long periods. Should I just get in the single rider lines without the wc and hope the wait isn't too long or are those lines wc accessible? Would it put me in the wrong area for transferring and leaving the wc behind while I ride?

joelkfla · Feb 5, 2016

Test Track single rider line is fully accessible, as long as you can transfer into the ride vehicle.

The only other one I can think of is EE. I've never taken my scooter in there, but I don't see any reason why it would be any different than coming through the FP+ queue.

Universal gives me their version of DAS when I have my scooter, which allows me to get a return time or enter through the exit when the wait is short, so I haven't had the need to try the single rider lines (though admittedly I try to visit at less crowded times.)

Scooterbritches · Feb 5, 2016

joelkfla said:
Test Track single rider line is fully accessible, as long as you can transfer into the ride vehicle.

The only other one I can think of is EE. I've never taken my scooter in there, but I don't see any reason why it would be any different than coming through the FP+ queue.

Universal gives me their version of DAS when I have my scooter, which allows me to get a return time or enter through the exit when the wait is short, so I haven't had the need to try the single rider lines (though admittedly I try to visit at less crowded times.)

So you've actually gotten a DAS at universal with a scooter? Posters on here have led me to believe that the parks, at least Disney, will not give that to people with mobility needs because the lines are accessible. They authorize them for autistic like disabilities. A DAS card would certainly meet my needs better than renting a wheelchair because I'm fully mobile, but could just use help shortening my day in the park or shortening the time I sit/stand. Trying to manuever a wheelchair/scooter everywhere in crowds is going to be just as hard on my body as standing for a long time!

DisneyOma · Feb 5, 2016

Scooterbritches said:
So you've actually gotten a DAS at universal with a scooter? Posters on here have led me to believe that the parks, at least Disney, will not give that to people with mobility needs because the lines are accessible. They authorize them for autistic like disabilities. A DAS card would certainly meet my needs better than renting a wheelchair because I'm fully mobile, but could just use help shortening my day in the park or shortening the time I sit/stand. Trying to manuever a wheelchair/scooter everywhere in crowds is going to be just as hard on my body as standing for a long time!

WDW seems to have way more people with mobility issues visiting their parks than Universal does - my guess is because Disney is a bit more 'family friendly' with more low key rides and fewer high intensity ones that are usually a no go for people with physical issues. When WDW did the GAC, it backed up the loading process for everyone involved, so they switched to the DAS because most attractions at WDW are physically accessible.

At Universal, I don't see too many scooters or wheelchairs in the queues for the intense/popular rides, so I'm thinking they can handle the added mobility population.

If you get a manual wheelchair, you will not have to manuever it yourself - the person pushing you will do that. You don't have to use it all the time. You can park it and walk, then go back to it later. Neither park has a lot of benches for resting, so you may really want that chair after walking miles and miles each day, especially after the first day!

Scooterbritches · Feb 5, 2016

DisneyOma said:
WDW seems to have way more people with mobility issues visiting their parks

If you get a manual wheelchair, you will not have to manuever it yourself - the person pushing you will do that. You don't have to use it all the time. You can park it and walk, then go back to it later. Neither park has a lot of benches for resting, so you may really want that chair after walking miles and miles each day, especially after the first day!

I'll be with a 15 year old girl. And my condition requires me to move when I need to move, sit when I need to sit so there will be times when I'll push that empty wc through the parks which requires me to push and bend over some. I'm not having my dd do that since she'll have to push with me in it and will need a break. You can bet the wc is going to be hard on my body! My saving grace is ditching it for the single rider lines! The rides themselves may a challenge for me. Idk cause this is the first time I've been to the parks since having problems, but I think I'll be fine strapped tightly in a sitting position. I've just resigned myself to pain.

SueM in MN · Feb 5, 2016

Scooterbritches said:
So you've actually gotten a DAS at universal with a scooter? Posters on here have led me to believe that the parks, at least Disney, will not give that to people with mobility needs because the lines are accessible. They authorize them for autistic like disabilities. A DAS card would certainly meet my needs better than renting a wheelchair because I'm fully mobile, but could just use help shortening my day in the park or shortening the time I sit/stand. Trying to manuever a wheelchair/scooter everywhere in crowds is going to be just as hard on my body as standing for a long time!

There is a big difference between WDW and Universal Studio.
The majority of lines at WDW, and many attractions, are wheelchair AND ECV accessible. If the needs are mobility or stamina, those can be met in most cases just by using the mobility device in line. DAS is not required to do that.

They are not at Universal. This is a quote from the Universal Rider's Guide for Guests with Disabilities.

We apologize, but with the exception of the HogwartsTM Express, none of the ride vehicles or attraction queues at Universal Orlando will accommodate Electric Convenience Vehicles (ECV’S) or motorized wheelchairs
At those rides which can accommodate manual wheelchairs, guests may transfer from their ECV or motorized wheelchair into a manual wheelchair that is provided at each location.
https://www.universalorlando.com/Images/Riders_Guide_tcm13-26195.pdf

From my experience, I would agree with the poster who wrote that Universal doesn't get the same number of guests with disabilities (at least using mobility devices) that WDW does.

gap2368 · Feb 5, 2016

t disney TT and EE you can take the wheel chair with you for single rider not too sure about RR I do not think there is any other singl rider lines at disney then those 3

I do not go to universal but at disney like people have been telling you your needs do not qualify you for a DAS sure you can lie and get one but like people have been saying benches are hit and miss and when you need to sit you may not be able to find some where to sit

Scooterbritches · Feb 6, 2016

SueM in MN said:
There is a big difference between WDW and Universal Studio.
The majority of lines at WDW, and many attractions, are wheelchair AND ECV accessible. If the needs are mobility or stamina, those can be met in most cases just by using the mobility device in line. DAS is not required to do that.

They are not at Universal. This is a quote from the Universal Rider's Guide for Guests with Disabilities.

We apologize, but with the exception of the HogwartsTM Express, none of the ride vehicles or attraction queues at Universal Orlando will accommodate Electric Convenience Vehicles (ECV’S) or motorized wheelchairs
At those rides which can accommodate manual wheelchairs, guests may transfer from their ECV or motorized wheelchair into a manual wheelchair that is provided at each location.
https://www.universalorlando.com/Images/Riders_Guide_tcm13-26195.pdf

From my experience, I would agree with the poster who wrote that Universal doesn't get the same number of guests with disabilities (at least using mobility devices) that WDW does.

I don't want to get off track from my original question. I fully accept that Disney has reasons for their rules (I used to work at an amusement park so I get it). When I read what pp said it brought me hope that universal will be able to help me in a way where I feel more helped and that's nothing against Disney. It is what it is. I just wanted more info about universal at that point, not Disney.

Anyway, back to wheelchairs in single rider lines (I will only be encountering rock and roller coaster since I'm not going to Epcot or Ak, and the 4 or 5 at universal.). So let me make sure I'm getting this right. Going in that line with a wc will not put me in a place where I shouldn't be, meaning I know they sometimes load disabled riders from special places only.

SueM in MN · Feb 6, 2016

Scooterbritches said:
I don't want to get off track from my original question. I fully accept that Disney has reasons for their rules (I used to work at an amusement park so I get it). When I read what pp said it brought me hope that universal will be able to help me in a way where I feel more helped and that's nothing against Disney. It is what it is. I just wanted more info about universal at that point, not Disney.

Anyway, back to wheelchairs in single rider lines (I will only be encountering rock and roller coaster since I'm not going to Epcot or Ak, and the 4 or 5 at universal.). So let me make sure I'm getting this right. Going in that line with a wc will not put me in a place where I shouldn't be, meaning I know they sometimes load disabled riders from special places only.

The reason I added the information about Universal was to explain why they do it differently. Some things posted are not necessarily to answer the original poster's question, but to clarify things for future readers.

There is a CM near the entrances and if you come to the line with a wheelchair (either at WDW or Universal) they will tell you what your options are or where you need to go if that area is not accessible.

PatMcDuck · Feb 6, 2016

I seen an ECV guest, and another in a manual WC (alone)use the single rider line for RSR, at DCA. I was fascinated, because the guests in WC and even guests without WC, just a DAS but walking, are usually pointed over to the special loading zone. But they often do fill the RSR cars in the special loading zone with single riders as well, so I guess it works fine. (me and my son are sent over there even when I have him walk the line)

And wow that single rider in the manual chair had to really work to get himself to the loading area, it is uphill there, as is the rest of the line.

kaytieeldr · Feb 6, 2016

Scooterbritches said:
Anyway, back to wheelchairs in single rider lines (I will only be encountering rock and roller coaster since I'm not going to Epcot or Ak, and the 4 or 5 at universal.). So let me make sure I'm getting this right. Going in that line with a wc will not put me in a place where I shouldn't be, meaning I know they sometimes load disabled riders from special places only

Correct. At least for EE. The Single Riders entrance is between the regular queues and the exit. You actually load in exactly the same place as everyone else.

Scooterbritches · Feb 6, 2016

I do not go to universal but at disney like people have been telling you your needs do not qualify you for a DAS sure you can lie and get one but like people have been saying benches are hit and miss and when you need to sit you may not be able to find some where to sit[/QUOTE]
I understand and am fully planning on renting a wc while at Disney. I never was planning to lie to get anything! If there's a possibility universal might give me their version of the pass (with me telling the truth, mind you) then I'd like to question for understanding about it! Just because I'm frustrated with my situation and would like to investigate how I can make it work the best for me doesn't mean I'm planning to lie! If I were going to do that I wouldn't ask questions beforehand to find out what I can and can't do!!!!

SMD · Feb 6, 2016

Scooterbritches said:
A DAS card would certainly meet my needs better than renting a wheelchair because I'm fully mobile, but could just use help shortening my day in the park or shortening the time I sit/stand.

If Disney does decide to issue a DAS it is not designed to shorten your time in the the parks. If you you need to shorten your day, simply arrive later or leave early. A DAS is not intended to allow you to do more in less time.

Scooterbritches · Feb 7, 2016

SMD said:
If Disney does decide to issue a DAS it is not designed to shorten your time in the the parks. If you you need to shorten your day, simply arrive later or leave early. A DAS is not intended to allow you to do more in less time.

Can you not go eat your lunch while virtual waiting in line? That saves time. Can you not browse a store while virtual waiting? Can you not go to a ride or attraction that has a short wait while virtual waiting? May not save much time, but it does save some.

DisneyOma · Feb 7, 2016

Scooterbritches said:
Can you not go eat your lunch while virtual waiting in line? That saves time. Can you not browse a store while virtual waiting? Can you not go to a ride or attraction that has a short wait while virtual waiting? May not save much time, but it does save some.

Depends on how long the return time is - if you go to another attraction, you would have to wait there, and then go on, and then go all the way back to the other attraction, etc. Of course you can use the DAS at any time after the initial return time arrives, but if you don't use it right at the beginning you are actually losing time before you can get another one.

gap2368 · Feb 7, 2016

Scooterbritches said:
Can you not go eat your lunch while virtual waiting in line? That saves time. Can you not browse a store while virtual waiting? Can you not go to a ride or attraction that has a short wait while virtual waiting? May not save much time, but it does save some.

yes you can do those things

some other things that I do and this is normally what I do as someone that uses a DAS

find some where quiet to sit normally on the ground in the sun so I will take out my umbrella and give my self a little buffer zone and have some thing so that I can not hear anything that is going on and wait until my return time

go to first aid and lie down I go there so much the nurse are like what room would you like ( I always go to the second one on the left at MK, the beck one on at HS )

wait for the paramedic and pray I do not have to go to celebration ( the ER near disney and it is much better then OC )

yes you gave a list of things that you could do but the region why I need a das is because I can not be in crowded places ( and others but this is the basic ) often times stores are to crowded for me so I can not go in them

go on another ride yes I have done this some but how many times can you ride the people mover in one day or another ride and I can really only do about 15 minutes and that is stretching it.

for the people that the DAS was meant for they really are not getting anything more then the average guest is I can telly you that on any given day I go on just as many rides as you do people with a DAS card may seem like they do but we really are not doing more rides

I know you keep telling be you understand or you will not lie to get a DAS card but I just wanted to let you know that for me it really harts when people give out list of things I could do with a DAS well that is all good on paper but that is really what I do or what I could do.

lanejudy · Feb 7, 2016

I believe OP's question has been asked and answered. I'm going to close this now before it morphs further into discussion of DAS use - which does not apply to mobility needs or single rider lines.

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