Use year if want to travel spring break?

justme0729

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I am considering buying DVC and understand that the Use Year doesn't have to do with when you can travel per say but just when you are allowed to bank and borrow points. If I want to be able to bank and borrow points in March or April, am I correct in thinking I should buy a resale with a March use year?

My family would likely travel during spring break the most as well as summer and winter break (I am a teacher). We would also like to be able to bank points during winter and summer if possible. Does a March use year make sense for us and why/ why not? I am a bit confused on the 8 month banking window thing.

Thank you in advance!
 
You can book at your home resort 11 months in advance. So if you wanted to travel every year in April you would be able to book at your home resort in May of the previous year. If you were booking at another DVC resort that was not "home" you could book 7 months in advance. So let's say you own at Bay Lake but want to stay at Saratoga Springs. You could book SSR in September.

If you are buying direct from DVC, your use year might matter as you won't have points to rollover for a first year trip. If you are buying resale it might not be that much of an issue if you buy a loaded contract which will have points you can bank and use for an upcoming trip. We just bought resale with an August use year and we travel in November. In our case, use year didn't matter, because we are getting over 200 points from the August 2015 use year that the seller didn't utilize.

The 8 month banking window applies whether you buy from DVC direct or resale. If you know you are not going to use points, you have to bank them with at least 4 months left in your use year. So for my August use year, we have to bank our points by March 31st.
 
By winter break do you mean Jan or Feb? If so then an April UY would Not be ideal. Could you please list all the actual months you normally travel?

My initial thought is a Dec or Feb UY might work but knowing all the months will help since I'm not certain of the winter break time.
 
By winter break do you mean Jan or Feb? If so then an April UY would Not be ideal. Could you please list all the actual months you normally travel?

My initial thought is a Dec or Feb UY might work but knowing all the months will help since I'm not certain of the winter break time.

Winter break would be 12/23-1/5 or so so Christmas and New Years time period but spring break is the time we have to be able to bank points. Does the March use year definately guarantee we could bank and borrow for a trip in March or April? Thanks for your help!

And if I wanted to use banked, borrowed, and current year points for one trip In March or April I could right? That is my goal.
 
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You can used banked and borrowed points for every single trip no matter what the dates are. Picking the most appropriate UY simply is about getting a free "insurance" against last minute cancellations by either allowing you to still be in your banking window or else giving you the most time possible to use the points before they expire if they are banked or borrowed or if you have points in holding.

You can actually get the quasi protection for all of your possible travel times. So, if I have it correct you would travel March, April, summer months and Dec and Jan? I'd say a Dec UY will provide the most cancellation protection against late cancellations except for any Aug travel that you cancelled less than 31 days out. The banking deadline for a Dec UY is July 31st. A March UY has a banking deadline of Oct 31st so any late cancellations of a Dec or Jan trip would leave little time for using or renting the points.
 
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If you only traveled in spring then the March UY would be best but you did also list the other possible travel times. A Dec UY will be perfectly fine for spring break although being a UY at the end of the calendar year it can be confusing at first. As an example if you wanted to travel in April of 2016 you would actually be in the Dec 15 UY (Dec 1, 2015 to Nov 31, 2016). That means you could use banked Dec 2014 points, current Dec 2015 points for borrow from Dec 2016 to use for that reservation. If you cancelled you would have up until July 31st to bank the current points if you weren't able to use them that year and any banked or borrowed points would have to be used prior to the start of the next UY or in this case by Nov 31, 2016.
 
You mention that you could go during spring break, summer, or winter break, by which I assume you mean late December/earlyJanuary. If those are the three times you will likely go over the years then March is possibly OK but December would actually be the best use year. Here, by example, is the use year issue which is really a risk of cancellation issue:

Let's assume a March use year and you intend a trip in March 2016 at home resort. You go online to reserve in April 2015, 11 months out. Because the trip is in March 2016, the "current" use year points for that trip will be those from the use year that begins March 1, 2016. If you have points leftover from March 2015 use year, you can bank them into the 2016 use year for that trip. Moreover, you could borrow March 2017 points for that trip. You can do those things when you reserve in April 2015 because the date you go on-line to reserve is irrelevant to which points are being used; all that counts for that issue is when you will be at WDW.

Now assume you in fact did bank some points for that trip and also borrowed some from 2017 so that your reservation has in it banked March 2015 points, current year March 2016 points, and borrowed March 2017 points. Next assume that in January 2016, two months before your trip, something awful happens, like you get named principal and told you need to stick around during spring break for meetings, resulting in your having to cancel that trip. You cancel and points go back into your account as they are, banked points remain banked, current points remain current, and borrowed points remain borrowed. The banked and borrowed points remain in the March 2016 use year but you will have until February 28, 2017 to use them for a trip. Moreover, your March 2016 points can still be used for a 2016 trip or, by October 31, 2016, you can bank them into the March 2017 use year. The effect of the cancellation is not bad because you still have a long time to do a trip with those points.

Now assume that instead of a March use year, you have an April use year and you set up that March 2016 trip, which is in your April 2015 use year, by making the reservation in April 2015. At the time, you use some points previously banked from your April 2014 use year into the April 2015 use year. You also use your "current" April 2015 use year points for that trip and borrow points from April 2016. Come Jan 2016 when you have to cancel, you have the worst of all worlds. The banked 2014 points cannot be banked again, the borrowed April 2016 points also remain in the April 2015 use year, and your current use year points cannot be banked into the April 2016 use year because the latest you can bank points is by the end of the eighth month of your use year (by the end of November 2015 for an April 2015 use year). Moreover, since your 2015 use year ends March 31, 2016, you will have less than three months to use all those points or lose them.

Thus, the best use year is one that begins shortly before you usually take a usual trip and the worst is one that ends just after the time of your usual trip. Of course if you go at different times of year, your ability to hedge the cancellation issue by choice of use year is diminished. Following the example, March would be the best use year for March or April trips. It is OK for "summer" trips because with cancellation you will still be able to bank curent points and have some time to use banked or borrowed points. But for late Dec/early Jan trips, it is not good because a late cancellation, such as cancelling in early November, could leave you with only a little more than three months to use all those points.

December use year creates a hedge for all three time you could go. December would be fine for March and April trips, because following a cancellation you would still have a substantial period of time to use the the banked and borrowed points and bank the the "current" use year points. Dercember is a weaker use year for the summer trips, particularly if you mean August rather than June, but it still creates a better hedge than a March use year does for a December trip.

Ultimately, you may just conclude that use year choice should take a back seat to choosing the best contract in the resale market, considering price and number of points. In 19 years as a DVC Member, I have never been required to cancel a trip and likely there are many others who have also never needed to do so.. Also, the time you will usually go in the next five years or so may change as time progresses. For example, when you retire and kids are no longer in school, October to first half of Dec could well become the time to go. In essence, what is the best use year now may not be that in the future
 
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You can used banked and borrowed points for every single trip no matter what the dates are. Picking the most appropriate UY simply is about getting a free "insurance" against last minute cancellations by either allowing you to still be in your banking window or else giving you the most time possible to use the points before they expire if they are banked or borrowed or if you have points in holding.

I totally agree.

I'd say a Dec UY will provide the most cancellation protection against late cancellations except for any Aug travel that you cancelled less than 31 days out.

And, of course, the December UY is possibly the most complicated to wrap one's head around. :)
 
Thanks everyone. That helps a ton! I'll look for a December ideally but won't stress if that doesn't work out :)
 
Thanks everyone. That helps a ton! I'll look for a December ideally but won't stress if that doesn't work out :)
If most trips will be spring break, I'd get a March UY and take my chances on the Dec trips. If the trips will be spread evenly between the 3 times, Dec is best but by a small margin.
 
I know you mentioned being a teacher and locked into those travel times. But your travel times still might change a little over time. You might find yourself wanting to take advantage of a short break for veterans day, or presidents day.

When we bought a few years ago or trips were always Oct-Dec, avoided summer and spring break because of the crowds. So we bought Sept UY. Then DD started getting older and involved in school more and sports - which didn't jive with our preferred travel times. So now we do go spring break and take the occasional long weekend instead of week long trips.

The reason I share this is that even though you may think you have the ideal use year now, don't get overly hung up it because things could be different in 5-10 years.
 
I vote December FTW too! We can go over Christmas break, February and March so December is perfect for us. Banking by July is not a big deal for us and having the points in case we wanted to go over the holidays is a major plus.
 

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