Attractions that are so bad they're good podcast - rudeness.

BadgerGirl84

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• Oct 7, 2015

• #61

I listened to the show. I actually felt much the same way the OP did, although I don't think anyone on the show was purposely being "mean" or "rude." It did seem like some participants were giving Dustin a hard time. Parts of the show were uncomfortable to listen to. The thought that "Dustin probably won't miss episodes like that once he leaves!" crossed my mind. My impression was that certain participants weren't respectful to Dustin as a host at times. Like I said, I don't think anyone was trying to be mean or rude, but parts of the show did come off that way as a listener.

 

Hunterr

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• Oct 8, 2015

• #62

Everybody always talks over everyone. It's kind of a thing on the Dis shows.
Sometimes more than others.
You know how many times Theresa starts a sentence while JenniLynn is in the middle of hers on The Trip?

Wouldn't say it's rude, tho.

 

KingLlama

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• Oct 8, 2015

• #63

-I didn't think of "rudeness" during the show. Do people talk over each other? Sure. Happens every episode of every DIS show. Doesn't mean it's rudeness. It means it's a group conversation as opposed to a presentation.

-I understood Kevin's frustration. I think it was a fun show and a good idea for a bracket, but should have been called "Best of the Bad" instead of "So Bad They're Good". The criteria for how to "advance" attractions was cloudy.

-"Magic Journeys" and "If You Had Wings" were two different things. "Magic Journeys" was the 3D show that preceded "Captain EO" at Imagination in Epcot. I remember being freaked out by a couple of scenes in it, but I do remember the dandelion scene you mentioned. "If You Had Wings" was a Tomorrowland ride that was sponsored by Eastern(?) Airlines. Don't remember much about it except that huge room you rode through at the end with the IMAX-esque screen. Do remember loving that ride as a kid, though.

 

JimmyV

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• Oct 8, 2015

• #64

Hunterr said:

Is it just me, or does the speedway not fit in with the future world theme?

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I've always looked at it as the future of the child, as opposed to the future of society in general. The ride is designed for kids who aren't yet old enough to drive. So driving is something that will be part of their future. And since the ride forces little kids to look forward to the future, I have always thought that the ride fit in pretty well. That, and, I can't think of a Land that is more fitting for the ride. It straddles Fantasyland and Tomorrowland, both literally and figuratively.

 

disneysteve

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• Oct 8, 2015

• #65

KingLlama said:

"If You Had Wings" was a Tomorrowland ride that was sponsored by Eastern(?) Airlines. Don't remember much about it except that huge room you rode through at the end with the IMAX-esque screen.

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You are correct about Eastern being the sponsor. Later it became Delta Dreamflight.

The ride was located where Buzz Lightyear is today and the building has actually not changed much. The track is the same. And that big room at the end is still there.

 

SorcererHeidi

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• Oct 9, 2015

• #66

disneysteve said:

You are correct about Eastern being the sponsor. Later it became Delta Dreamflight.

The ride was located where Buzz Lightyear is today and the building has actually not changed much. The track is the same. And that big room at the end is still there.

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Yep - I remember the If You Had Wings/Delta Dreamflight attraction. Wasn't Magic Journeys also originally in the Magic Kingdom? I seem to remember that from my first real visits back in '93.

 

KingLlama

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• Oct 9, 2015

• #67

It was originally at Epcot. They may have moved it to MK when it left Epcot, but I didn't visit WDW from 89 until 2006*, so I'm not sure.

*I refer to this period as "The Dark Years".

 

Maxpowers

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• Oct 9, 2015

• #68

I don't think Kevin was being mean or intentionally rude. But I can see how his refusal to play the game came off that way. I also understand his point of not thinking that any of the attractions are bad, but I don't think that's what Dustin had in mind. To me, "so bad it's good" means that it is a good ride, a ride that could verge on bad, but has some sort of kitch, nostalgia, cheesyness and/or atmosphere that makes it good. For instance, I don't the the Three Caballeros would be a good ride anywhere else, but in WDW due to the ambiance that surrounds it I do think it is a good ride (one that I really like).

 

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disneysteve

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• Oct 9, 2015

• #69

SorcererHeidi said:

Wasn't Magic Journeys also originally in the Magic Kingdom? I seem to remember that from my first real visits back in '93.

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Magic Journeys started in EPCOT at the Imagination pavilion. It did run for a time at the Fantasyland theater in MK, now the site of Mickey's PhilHarmagic.

 

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DisneyKevin

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• Oct 9, 2015

• #70

Cant explain it better than I already have.

I didn't agree with the premise...still don't.

Not apologetic. It was a lively conversation.

No podcasters were hurt in the production of this episode.

 

Hunterr

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• Oct 9, 2015

• #71

JimmyV said:

I've always looked at it as the future of the child, as opposed to the future of society in general. The ride is designed for kids who aren't yet old enough to drive. So driving is something that will be part of their future. And since the ride forces little kids to look forward to the future, I have always thought that the ride fit in pretty well. That, and, I can't think of a Land that is more fitting for the ride. It straddles Fantasyland and Tomorrowland, both literally and figuratively.

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I mean, I guess.
It's just that sitting amongst all the other futuristic things, its odd. But yes, it wouldn't fit well any other place. And its right on the edge of the land, so its forgiven

RIP the old smoking area that used to be by the ride.... I quit smoking 6 years ago, but still. It was a nice smoking area as far as Disney smoking areas go.

 

Maxpowers

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• Oct 9, 2015

• #72

DisneyKevin said:

Cant explain it better than I already have.

I didn't agree with the premise...still don't.

Not apologetic. It was a lively conversation.

No podcasters were hurt in the production of this episode.

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Just to be clear, I don't think you needed to apologize either. Just saying that I can see how some could have taken it that way.

 

SorcererHeidi

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• Oct 9, 2015

• #73

disneysteve said:

Magic Journeys started in EPCOT at the Imagination pavilion. It did run for a time at the Fantasyland theater in MK, now the site of Mickey's PhilHarmagic.

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Thanx - so I'm not TOTALLY nuts (I did say "totally).

 

rangermom

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• Oct 11, 2015

• #74

I didn't think Kevin was rude at all. It think the title was a little confusing and then people started talking about getting rid of rides. I enjoyed the podcast and love the comments from everyone. I love when Kevin is on the show. He has been coming to Disney for years and he his perspective is more inline with mine sometimes and it helps validate my feelings WDW sometimes. I like to stretch beneath the surface of WDW has to offer and I think Kevin perspectives help me do that. He is really just fun to listen to.