Official 2016 Princess Half Marathon Thread

Back from my week 5, day 2 run. I survived! I think I went further than the app wanted me to just because the gps was spotty out at the canal. I switched from galloway to the 10k app by clear sky. It is good for giving me interval reminders but not so good for telling me distance or pace. So I use runkeeper at the same time. 2.37 miles in 38 minutes.

Sports bras... I would go get measured and buy one that is adjustable. I have found that the kind that just pulls over your head and can be purchased at any big box store isn't enough support and causes chaffing. I know they are expensive but if you take good care of it and wash it gently, it should last you several years. If it adjusts, you won't have to replace it if you lose or gain weight.

Last week Running Skirts had a 50% off sale so I ordered a pink polka dot capri skirt and a "stops at character crossings" t-shirt. On Monday I got an email with my tracking number for both items. On Tuesday I got an email saying they are actually out of my size in the capri skirt and do I want something different. I'm hoping they will substitute the solid hot pink skirt. Then I will have a good portion of my princess weekend outfit!
 
Has anyone had irritation from the kt tape? I had my back taped for support last week and the tape started itching. When I took it off, it left me feeling sunburned. The itch was gone but any pressure or water in the taped areas hurt like a burn!
 
preciouspups said:
Has anyone had irritation from the kt tape? I had my back taped for support last week and the tape started itching. When I took it off, it left me feeling sunburned. The itch was gone but any pressure or water in the taped areas hurt like a burn!
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I actually have an adhesive allergy, can not leave band aids on too long and things like tegaderm will rip off my skin; but for whatever reason, KT tape does not bother me. It tends to itch a bit after about a day- and my skin is a little bit irritated once I take it off- but the response to KT tape is mild compared to my skin's reaction to other adhesives.
 


Since you all have been so helpful with my chaffing problem, let me ask you a training question. :-)

So my training schedule is currently Tuesday (short run), Thursday (interval run) and Saturday or Sunday long run. This past Saturday I ran a 10 mile race on a very challenging, hilly course.

I have 4 more weekends to run before my first half marathon. Three free training runs and a 10k race the week before the half.

Up until this point I have been adding about 5 minutes to my long run each week, or about 1/2 a mile.

I am wondering how much I should try to up my distance before the half? Or if I should work on time? My longest run so far has been 2 hours, and I am expecting to do the half in about 2.5 hours.

How close to the full 13.1 do you guys usually train to before a race?

I also have a second half marathon planned for about 4 weeks after the first one, so I need to figure out what my runs between the two races should look like. The first course is very flat, but the second one is going to be a bit more of a challenge.

ETA: I guess I should add that I did the 10 mile race in 1h 52min, and the two hour training run that I did was also 10 miles, so I have not yet gone beyond two hours or 10 miles.
 
preciouspups said:
Has anyone had irritation from the kt tape? I had my back taped for support last week and the tape started itching. When I took it off, it left me feeling sunburned. The itch was gone but any pressure or water in the taped areas hurt like a burn!
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Ouch!

I haven't actually used the KT tape I bought, so I don't know. But there are other brands that likely have different adhesives, and it's worth a try in the future. I had my feet Rock Taped before the rock and roll 8K, and it was totally fine for my usually-sensitive skin. So that's another brand for you to try if you wish to.
 
preciouspups said:
Has anyone had irritation from the kt tape? I had my back taped for support last week and the tape started itching. When I took it off, it left me feeling sunburned. The itch was gone but any pressure or water in the taped areas hurt like a burn!
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I had irritation when I first started using KT tape. But then my PT gave me the advice of taking it off in the shower, while it is wet and soapy. It pulled less and I stopped having irritation.

HockeyMomNH said:
I am wondering how much I should try to up my distance before the half? Or if I should work on time? My longest run so far has been 2 hours, and I am expecting to do the half in about 2.5 hours.

How close to the full 13.1 do you guys usually train to before a race?

I also have a second half marathon planned for about 4 weeks after the first one, so I need to figure out what my runs between the two races should look like. The first course is very flat, but the second one is going to be a bit more of a challenge.

ETA: I guess I should add that I did the 10 mile race in 1h 52min, and the two hour training run that I did was also 10 miles, so I have not yet gone beyond two hours or 10 miles.
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You will get a lot of different advice here. Part of it is mental. A lot of people train to 10 miles, and never past for halves, and they race successfully. The program I have used twice (Hal Higdon) had me go to 12. I think Galloway has you go to 14? Some people say they need to know they can do it and train to 13.1.

So the question is, how do you feel at your 2 hour/10+ mile point? Like you could keep going? Strong enough to feel you can go the next three? Or are you toast, and can't imagine the next 3.1? Mentally do you see a benefit to getting closer to the distance? Or if you already feel certain you can get it done, do you think that you feel secure stopping at 10?

You also mention going by time. My PT would like that. He told me to try to run for the time I thought it would take to finish (2:15) but go slow, so I would run the time not the distance. That might be an option. Go for the 2.5 you think you'll need, but take some speed off your run.

Personally, I liked the security of going to 12 before my first half (and second) I felt both times like I could keep going. But many people say if you can get to 10, you can get to 13 with the race atmosphere. Sorry I don't have clear advice, but I really think this is an individual decision.
 


HockeyMomNH said:
Since you all have been so helpful with my chaffing problem, let me ask you a training question. :-)

So my training schedule is currently Tuesday (short run), Thursday (interval run) and Saturday or Sunday long run. This past Saturday I ran a 10 mile race on a very challenging, hilly course.

I have 4 more weekends to run before my first half marathon. Three free training runs and a 10k race the week before the half.

Up until this point I have been adding about 5 minutes to my long run each week, or about 1/2 a mile.

I am wondering how much I should try to up my distance before the half? Or if I should work on time? My longest run so far has been 2 hours, and I am expecting to do the half in about 2.5 hours.

How close to the full 13.1 do you guys usually train to before a race?

I also have a second half marathon planned for about 4 weeks after the first one, so I need to figure out what my runs between the two races should look like. The first course is very flat, but the second one is going to be a bit more of a challenge.

ETA: I guess I should add that I did the 10 mile race in 1h 52min, and the two hour training run that I did was also 10 miles, so I have not yet gone beyond two hours or 10 miles.
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My first three halves, I followed the Hal Higdon program as well and I felt comfortable that I got to 12. Last year's half that I ran, a lot of things in my life prevented me from getting all the way to 12 (I never ever add more than 10% per week, and last year I just did not have enough weeks). I think the farthest I ran was 10 a couple of weeks before the race. I got through the half just fine, but I can definitely say I wasn't AS prepared for that race as the others. More than the long run distance that I was lacking though, last year, I also wasn't as consistent with my midweek runs as I should of, and maybe that played the biggest part in being a little unprepared.

For Princess I am going to try out the Galloway "improve time plan" which does go past 13. That will be a new experience for me-- I've never run past 13.1! To be honest, I'm a little worried that mentally, I won't feel as proud of myself for doing that 13.1 after having run 14 a couple of weeks before. I know that sounds pretty ridiculous!

Anyway, I agree with PP. Think about what you most need mentally and just go with that plan. If you are following a program consistently and you just go up to 10, I do not see you having any problem making it through 13.1.
 
DVCFan1994 said:
I had irritation when I first started using KT tape. But then my PT gave me the advice of taking it off in the shower, while it is wet and soapy. It pulled less and I stopped having irritation.



You will get a lot of different advice here. Part of it is mental. A lot of people train to 10 miles, and never past for halves, and they race successfully. The program I have used twice (Hal Higdon) had me go to 12. I think Galloway has you go to 14? Some people say they need to know they can do it and train to 13.1.

So the question is, how do you feel at your 2 hour/10+ mile point? Like you could keep going? Strong enough to feel you can go the next three? Or are you toast, and can't imagine the next 3.1? Mentally do you see a benefit to getting closer to the distance? Or if you already feel certain you can get it done, do you think that you feel secure stopping at 10?

You also mention going by time. My PT would like that. He told me to try to run for the time I thought it would take to finish (2:15) but go slow, so I would run the time not the distance. That might be an option. Go for the 2.5 you think you'll need, but take some speed off your run.

Personally, I liked the security of going to 12 before my first half (and second) I felt both times like I could keep going. But many people say if you can get to 10, you can get to 13 with the race atmosphere. Sorry I don't have clear advice, but I really think this is an individual decision.
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I find the KT tape irritating too. I like the shower idea, I might try that. I don't always tape, but sometimes my knees need a little extra support.

Thanks for the advice on training. I know that I am physically ready to do the 13 miles. I was tired after the 10, but not dead, and I was pushing it pretty hard for the last two miles of the race because I knew that I was close to my target time.

I do agree with you about mentally training. I would like to get closer to 12 miles before the race, I think.

As for the time aspect, I have been training that way since the beginning. I did C25K and then 5K to 10K programs and they were both timed instead of distance. I have not been following a training program since I did that last year, but just upping my time in increments.
 
HockeyMomNH said:
Since you all have been so helpful with my chaffing problem, let me ask you a training question. :-)

So my training schedule is currently Tuesday (short run), Thursday (interval run) and Saturday or Sunday long run. This past Saturday I ran a 10 mile race on a very challenging, hilly course.

I have 4 more weekends to run before my first half marathon. Three free training runs and a 10k race the week before the half.

Up until this point I have been adding about 5 minutes to my long run each week, or about 1/2 a mile.

I am wondering how much I should try to up my distance before the half? Or if I should work on time? My longest run so far has been 2 hours, and I am expecting to do the half in about 2.5 hours.

How close to the full 13.1 do you guys usually train to before a race?
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Personally, I like to go past the 13.1. It helps me mentally to know that I can go even farther than the race distance. Jeff Galloway's plan goes to 14.5, so that's what I did the first time. I really liked it.

bumbershoot said:
I haven't actually used the KT tape I bought, so I don't know. But there are other brands that likely have different adhesives, and it's worth a try in the future. I had my feet Rock Taped before the rock and roll 8K, and it was totally fine for my usually-sensitive skin. So that's another brand for you to try if you wish to.
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I have never used KT Tape either. I will say that I have extremely sensitive skin and Rock Tape has never bothered me.
 
disneydaydreamer33 said:
My first three halves, I followed the Hal Higdon program as well and I felt comfortable that I got to 12. Last year's half that I ran, a lot of things in my life prevented me from getting all the way to 12 (I never ever add more than 10% per week, and last year I just did not have enough weeks). I think the farthest I ran was 10 a couple of weeks before the race. I got through the half just fine, but I can definitely say I wasn't AS prepared for that race as the others. More than the long run distance that I was lacking though, last year, I also wasn't as consistent with my midweek runs as I should of, and maybe that played the biggest part in being a little unprepared.

For Princess I am going to try out the Galloway "improve time plan" which does go past 13. That will be a new experience for me-- I've never run past 13.1! To be honest, I'm a little worried that mentally, I won't feel as proud of myself for doing that 13.1 after having run 14 a couple of weeks before. I know that sounds pretty ridiculous!

Anyway, I agree with PP. Think about what you most need mentally and just go with that plan. If you are following a program consistently and you just go up to 10, I do not see you having any problem making it through 13.1.
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I'm not following an official training program. Which is making me a bit nervous now that I am just a few weeks away from the race.

I know it's just mental though. The last two weeks of 10 mile runs have been fine and I am sure that I can make 13. I am worried that I could be more prepared though, and I guess I'm wondering how best to do that in four weeks time.

I understand the mentality of "just 13.1", but I don't think that you will really feel that way when you cross that finish line. :-)
 
HockeyMomNH said:
I'm not following an official training program. Which is making me a bit nervous now that I am just a few weeks away from the race.

I know it's just mental though. The last two weeks of 10 mile runs have been fine and I am sure that I can make 13. I am worried that I could be more prepared though, and I guess I'm wondering how best to do that in four weeks time.

I understand the mentality of "just 13.1", but I don't think that you will really feel that way when you cross that finish line. :-)
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If you have done 10 miles just fine, you will be great for the race! I would just add 10% each week until the week before; I've always tapered off the week before. I'm running a half in two weeks. Last week I did a 12.5 run, this week I am only going up to 6, and then the week after will be the half. Good luck with whatever you decided to do!
 
Thanks for the advice on kt tape. I haven't heard of rock tape. My physical therapist has the kt, but I will ask her about the other brand. The weird thing is that it didn't bother me at all the last time I used it.
 
I can't seem to catch a break. Recovered from the pulled hamstring and got in two good run days this week. This morning I had to help my giant, old man dog into the truck and my lower back went into spasm. Now I'm shuffling like an old lady, using icy hot and searching the cabinets for any leftover valium!
 
preciouspups said:
I can't seem to catch a break. Recovered from the pulled hamstring and got in two good run days this week. This morning I had to help my giant, old man dog into the truck and my lower back went into spasm. Now I'm shuffling like an old lady, using icy hot and searching the cabinets for any leftover valium!
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Right there with you, friend. :sad2:
 
preciouspups said:
I can't seem to catch a break. Recovered from the pulled hamstring and got in two good run days this week. This morning I had to help my giant, old man dog into the truck and my lower back went into spasm. Now I'm shuffling like an old lady, using icy hot and searching the cabinets for any leftover valium!
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I really would not have gotten very far in this whole running thing if I didn't have a good acupuncturist, chiropractor, and massage therapist in my corner. If you don't have that trifecta, GET them.

Arnica cream is soooo good. Epsom salts baths are sooooo good as long as your tub is relatively comfy. (bath first, then arnica)

keahgirl8 said:
Right there with you, friend. :sad2:
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Poor Keah. See above. :)
 
preciouspups said:
I can't seem to catch a break. Recovered from the pulled hamstring and got in two good run days this week. This morning I had to help my giant, old man dog into the truck and my lower back went into spasm. Now I'm shuffling like an old lady, using icy hot and searching the cabinets for any leftover valium!
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Shoot! Those kinds of things are the worst, because it seems impossible to pinpoint the exact problem and how to fix it! I hope things start to feel better soon.
 
preciouspups said:
I can't seem to catch a break. Recovered from the pulled hamstring and got in two good run days this week. This morning I had to help my giant, old man dog into the truck and my lower back went into spasm. Now I'm shuffling like an old lady, using icy hot and searching the cabinets for any leftover valium!
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Oh I had that a few weeks ago. It was awful. I had to let my physical therapist mother fix it which hurt almost as much.
 
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bumbershoot said:
I really would not have gotten very far in this whole running thing if I didn't have a good acupuncturist, chiropractor, and massage therapist in my corner. If you don't have that trifecta, GET them.

Arnica cream is soooo good. Epsom salts baths are sooooo good as long as your tub is relatively comfy. (bath first, then arnica)



Poor Keah. See above. :)
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I was at physical therapy yesterday for something else, totally unrelated, and I hoped they would fix me up, but they didn't. I do have an awesome massage therapist and she specializes in sports massage and does a lot of extreme marathoners. She has me do a lot of stretches while on her table and she massages into the deep areas. I also have a foam roller and a spiky ball and a tennis ball that all help in the meantime. Last night I took an epsom salt bath, four advil, a percocet, used my Voltaren gel and then used my foam roller. I slept great!

Oh yeah, and the spasm happened when I was lifting the back end of my 100 pound dog into the truck.:crutches::dog2:
 
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