I suppose. It would surprise me to hear that the insulation was worse than before (maybe). Just thinking of cooling costs if not insulated suggests the cost savings is well worth it. Someone could make the argument that our dues pay utility costs so why would they care, but I honestly think they do. Having seen the doors / windows at numerous resorts nothing in the screamed to me well insulated previously.
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Vacation Kathy
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We were shocked by the amount of ferry noise in July. We were on 3rd floor Moorea but if I had been in one of the bungalows at that end, I would have been really mad. Also, I understand the horns blowing late at night because the ferry was still running well after midnight, but I don't understand why the ferry horn was blowing at 5:00 am when the MK didn't open till 9:00.
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The insulation and dual pane windows are probably required by federal and state building codes for energy effecianty and not so much to reduce noise for the guest.
Bill
That's sort of my point- I can't imagine that the resort is any worse than it was prior.
dizfan
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I truly do not believe Disney would have ordered less insulation. However, there are plenty of contractors and workers who do not necessarily do the best work. See the pictures of a few PVB tubs that had poor glazing jobs. These were supposedly to be brand new tubs. Contractor or someone tired to make a few bucks putting in old glazed tubs.
All it takes is a few lake view PVB studios to have poor insulation and the boards will keep hearing the stories over and over. Much like we hear about poor drainage frequently. We never experienced that. Based on some pics Tikiman posted early after opening, there were certainly a few rooms the opened the walls to fix the problem.
Plenty of stories of professional window installers doing a great job insulating around one window/door, but doing a terrible job around another. DW and I live in a house with mostly great windows. We have a couple where it is crash to tell the two guys clearly did not put adequate insulation around.
The one thing I hope is that people with issues report it to member satisfaction. Member satisfaction should be making a list of the rooms. If it is all rooms, member satisfaction's list should show that. If it is a handful of rooms, their data should show that as well.
Unless someone stays in all the rooms, none of us know if it is a few, many, most, all, ...
All it takes is a few lake view PVB studios to have poor insulation and the boards will keep hearing the stories over and over. Much like we hear about poor drainage frequently. We never experienced that. Based on some pics Tikiman posted early after opening, there were certainly a few rooms the opened the walls to fix the problem.
Plenty of stories of professional window installers doing a great job insulating around one window/door, but doing a terrible job around another. DW and I live in a house with mostly great windows. We have a couple where it is crash to tell the two guys clearly did not put adequate insulation around.
The one thing I hope is that people with issues report it to member satisfaction. Member satisfaction should be making a list of the rooms. If it is all rooms, member satisfaction's list should show that. If it is a handful of rooms, their data should show that as well.
Unless someone stays in all the rooms, none of us know if it is a few, many, most, all, ...
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DVD isn't going to do anything to the buildings to reduce noise, they haven't at any resort. At OKW the buses driving by some of the units are very noticeable.
As I posted above there are federal and state laws on insulating to meet required energy codes for new construction and Disney will meet or exceed those requirements. There are zero requirements to reduce noise that a guest may hear when staying in a room.
Bill
As I posted above there are federal and state laws on insulating to meet required energy codes for new construction and Disney will meet or exceed those requirements. There are zero requirements to reduce noise that a guest may hear when staying in a room.
Bill
dizfan
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DVD isn't going to do anything to the buildings to reduce noise, they haven't at any resort. At OKW the buses driving by some of the units are very noticeable.
As I posted above there are federal and state laws on insulating to meet required energy codes for new construction and Disney will meet or exceed those requirements. There are zero requirements to reduce noise that a guest may hear when staying in a room.
You may well be right that Disney doesn't fix it. That doesn't mean they didn't see a problem with the contractors work and recoup financially.
As far as not being required to reduce noise levels, a few of the DVC workers are claiming they did in fact put additional soundproofing in the bungalows closest to the TTC. Could be stretching the truth, or it could be that Disney did see a potential problem and attempted to make it much better than it would have been.
jerseygal
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Speaking of completely gutting the longhouses, were elevators upgraded in ALL longhouses, Moorea, PagoPago, and Tokelau? Curious,
read a guests comments that the elevators in Tokelau looked "worn" as well as the "common" areas of the halls? 
Curious about this, TIA!
dizfan
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I must admit I'm not sure what they did as far as the elevators. Only building I stayed in before DVC was Moorea. Only building I visited someone in prior to DVC was Moorea. Only building I have stayed in since DVC is Moorea.
When we stayed in May, I remember being able to see into Tokelau and seeing rooms in different stages of construction. Some were essentially done. Others didn't seem to have any work done on them.
I would recommend going to Tikiman's Facebook page. He is a great resource for everything Poly related. Unfortunately, Disney put a gag order on him earlier this year, so he may not able to comment on the construction that occurred. From what I understand, he can only talk about things others have disclosed.
wdrl
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I can't say for sure the elevators are brand new, but I don't think they look "worn." Moorea has two elevators, one quite large and one rather small, in the center of the longhouse. Pago Pago has one small elevator which is just wide enough for a double stroller to fit through the door. I haven't been in Tokelau so I don't know its elevator configuration, but I suspect its the same at Tokelau.
The hallways and common areas in Moorea and Pago Pago were completed remodeled. I remember walking through these longhouses back in 2013 and thinking the hallways needed a refurbishment. Not everyone may like the new colors, but the carpets, wall furnishings, and lobbies do not look "worn", at least in my opinion.
Here are some photos from Pago Pago:
1st Floor Hallway:
Carpet Close Up:
Hall Light Fixture:
Pago Pago Lobby:
Here is what Moorea (nee Tahiti) looked like a couple of years ago before the renovation:
dizfan
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The elevators in Moorea seemed to be the same size they were in the past. From what I remember, they at a minimum gave the insides a face lift. I could be mistaken. During our May stay we used the elevators only when we were going to the TTC because our room was on thThey may very well be the same elevators.
From what I remember, the elevators were the same size as before. They may very well be the same elevators. Perhaps with an update to the mechanics. When we visited my DM in Moorea around 2010 or 2011, it seemed one elevator would go down every day. From what I remember of our stay in May, the inside of the elevator had been redesigned. I am claustrophobic and the old elevators bother me a bit.
Admittedly, in May we often used the stairway at the end of Moorea to go to/from GCH. Tokelau had constant construction and the views of walking along the beach were very peaceful. One downside is the sliding doors at that staircase were having issues. Third floor would open close on its own on a couple days. Thankfully, we were not on the second floor. That sliding door didn't work a couple times. People on the second floor were upset, which I understand.
New construction will have issues. Happens at Disney and around the world.
Thanks Dizfan!So in Morea were your impressions that the elevators seemed updated?
From what I remember, the elevators were the same size as before. They may very well be the same elevators. Perhaps with an update to the mechanics. When we visited my DM in Moorea around 2010 or 2011, it seemed one elevator would go down every day. From what I remember of our stay in May, the inside of the elevator had been redesigned. I am claustrophobic and the old elevators bother me a bit.
Admittedly, in May we often used the stairway at the end of Moorea to go to/from GCH. Tokelau had constant construction and the views of walking along the beach were very peaceful. One downside is the sliding doors at that staircase were having issues. Third floor would open close on its own on a couple days. Thankfully, we were not on the second floor. That sliding door didn't work a couple times. People on the second floor were upset, which I understand.
New construction will have issues. Happens at Disney and around the world.
jerseygal
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I can't say for sure the elevators are brand new, but I don't think they look "worn." Moorea has two elevators, one quite large and one rather small, in the center of the longhouse. Pago Pago has one small elevator which is just wide enough for a double stroller to fit through the door. I haven't been in Tokelau so I don't know its elevator configuration, but I suspect its the same at Tokelau.
The hallways and common areas in Moorea and Pago Pago were completed remodeled. I remember walking through these longhouses back in 2013 and thinking the hallways needed a refurbishment. Not everyone may like the new colors, but the carpets, wall furnishings, and lobbies do not look "worn", at least in my opinion.
Here are some photos from Pago Pago:
1st Floor Hallway:
Carpet Close Up:
Hall Light Fixture:
Pago Pago Lobby:
Here is what Moorea (nee Tahiti) looked like a couple of years ago before the renovation:
Looks VERY NICE!
THANKS for posting pics!
jerseygal
DIS Veteran
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THANKS for the insight;
we are stair "people" too in resorts, so we avoid waits for elevators when at all possible.
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If someone at PVB will take a look at the license certificate inside the elevators, it usually will have a date of manufacture or install and have the words Reedy Creek as the issuing agency.
Bill
Bill
bobbiwoz
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My thoughts about elevators were that the elevators in Moorea looked the same sort as the ones that take you up and down in Poly's lobby. The other thought was how nice that there were 2 in Moorea.
My new knees let me walk up and down the stairs, such a wonderful experience!
We really enjoyed our 5 night stay in Moorea.
My new knees let me walk up and down the stairs, such a wonderful experience!
We really enjoyed our 5 night stay in Moorea.
jerseygal
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