Pin Trading

kailuagirl

DIS Veteran
Joined
Apr 16, 2009
Question… I'm looking on ebay for some pins to trade. Last year I bought some new sets for great prices and traded those. What is the deal with the "pin lots". They are just two cheap. I don't understand them. Is that what people buy to trade with at the parks? My dd8 loves to pin trade so I want to get some for her

Thanks!
 
Question… I'm looking on ebay for some pins to trade. Last year I bought some new sets for great prices and traded those. What is the deal with the "pin lots". They are just two cheap. I don't understand them. Is that what people buy to trade with at the parks? My dd8 loves to pin trade so I want to get some for her

Thanks!

We always purchase pins on eBay to take with us for trading with the CM's......it's a good way to get some traders before your trip.

Good luck!
 
The deal with the too cheap lots on ebay are that most of them are scrappers (factory rejects that should have been destroyed) and/or counterfeits. If you find for less than $1 on ebay with the magical words "100% tradeable in parks" and "what you see pictured may not be what you get", that is usually a sign that they are scrappers or counterfeits.
 
This is from a longer post about pin trading, but it goes over a bit about the pins your likely to get in "pin lots".

Scrappers, Counterfeits, and Fakes
: The second issue is scrappers, counterfeits, and fakes. For some folks this matters, for others it does not. You'll need to decide which camp you are in before you get heavily into pin trading. To the average pin trader, I don't think the difference between a scraper, fake, or counterfeit really matters (because none of these are legitimate pins), but there are slight differences.
  • A scrapper is a pin that looks legitimate, but is not. It can be a factory overrun (i.e., the factory was contracted to make 1 million, but they made 1.1 million instead) or a pin that has some kind of error that should have been "scrapped".
  • A counterfeit pin is a copy of legitimate pin made by someone that was not authorized by Disney.
  • A fake is a pin design that was never authorized by Disney.
Unfortunately, it's not always easy to tell what pin designs are fake unless you know a lot about pins and what designs have been released. These pins can often look like legitimate designs and may contain all of the markings (e.g., copy right) to look legitimate, but they are not. Luckily, I tend to think that outright fakes are the least common type of non-legitimate pins out there.

In terms of the scrapers/counterfeits, those are harder to distinguish the legitimate from non-legitimate. You'll often be able to tell a scrapper/counterfeit because the colors are weird/off, elements are missing or incorrect, or the back stamp (the copy right) is wrong/missing/damaged. Others say you can tell because they feel "rough" or the edges are sharp/pronounced. Sadly, there is no sure fire way to tell a scrapper/counterfeit. My guess is that it’s easier to identify the counterfeits and the scrappers that should have been “scrapped”. The factory over-runs probably look exactly like the ones shipped to Disney, so those are nearly impossible to distinguish once they’re in circulation.

It's worth noting that if you do end up trading with CM, the CM lanyards tend to be filled with scrappers, counterfeits, and (to a less extent) fakes. So if you really dislike scrappers/counterfeit, I would avoid trading with CMs. That's the crux of the argument: those that dislike scrappers/counterfeits feel they cheapen the trading and make it not worthwhile. Those that don't care, tend to say that they like the pin, so it doesn't really matter if it's a scrapper/counterfeit or not (they also say that if you can't tell, does it really matter?). Both points are valid.

eBay: eBay is a popular source for pins, but it can be a tough place to buy legitimate (i.e., non-scrapper/counterfeits/fake) pins. The general rule of thumb is that you buy a "lot" of pins (e.g., 25-pins) and the price per pin is less than a couple of dollars each, you're likely buying scrappers. Also, if you buy pins that come in little baggies (instead of pin cards like the ones you see at the stores in WDW/DLR), those are more likely to be scrappers as well. My recommendation is to look for sellers that are selling pins still on their backing and/or unopened booster sets (also still on their cardboard backing wrapped in plastic). In truth, unless you only buy from Disney directly, it is hard to say whether you'll get scrappers/counterfeits/fakes or not.
 
What I did is go to amazon and find a booster set of pins, so I knew they were legit. The one I bought was 7 pins- they were originally $36 and I bought it for $18 I think! I feel better about it than buying scrappers for a dollar each.
 
Thanks everyone! We usually buy them in the parks to trade, last year I bought booster sets on Ebay. I only want to buy legit ones so I will stay way from those other sets :)
 
Thanks everyone! We usually buy them in the parks to trade, last year I bought booster sets on Ebay. I only want to buy legit ones so I will stay way from those other sets :)

Just keep in mind, if your daughter is only trading with CM she is likely to end up with some scrappers and probably already has some from previous trips. Many guests buy these, most don't even know, and the CM have to trade them. So if she's not into collecting and only wants to trade, it is not too big of a deal because she's likely going to end up with some scrappers after trading with CM. I checked over all my pins this spring and there was only one that had any kind of defect (sharp metal on edge) that would make it so I could tell it was not legitimate. It's pretty impossible to tell, which means you won't be able to tell when looking at a CM lanyard.
 
Once you get a few scrappers, it is actually quite easy to figure out which are scrappers (factory overruns). The scrappers are getting worse each year.

I remember when I first started out pin trading, I bought a lot on ebay (back when didn't know any better) and paid about $1.50-2 per pin shipped. All the pins were glossy which made me think they were okay, but Minnie was missing her eyebrows. I never even noticed it until a cast member pointed it out.
 
Once you get a few scrappers, it is actually quite easy to figure out which are scrappers (factory overruns). The scrappers are getting worse each year.

I watched a video someone recommended about ways to tell if your pins are scrappers/fakes. After the video I examined all of my pins that I didn't personally buy at a Disney store (traded for them or got from Ebay), and I could only see the one defect. I'm sure that more of them are not legitimate because I trade with CM and they receive a lot of scrappers. I haven't done much trading on my last few trips, but my DD5 wants to have pins now too. My biggest concern is keeping her pins from falling off the lanyard.
 
My biggest concern is keeping her pins from falling off the lanyard.
Use the locking backs. They are sold in the parks and sometimes online. You will lose far less, but not ideal if you want to trade and plan on taking pins on and off the lanyard.
 
Once you get a few scrappers, it is actually quite easy to figure out which are scrappers (factory overruns). The scrappers are getting worse each year.
I don't know that I'd say it's easy to tell the scrapper pins in general. Some are very easy to tell, but others can have pretty subtle differences. Some can be as subtle as slightly different colors, while others are blatant. Overall, my sense is that over half of the pins on CM lanyards and boards are probably scrappers, counterfeits, or fakes.
 

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