Disney Pins Explained

DisneyDetective

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I'm just back from Florida and have bought two pins that I liked the look of but now I think I'd like to start collecting, is there a special way of collecting eg are certain pins different, are some more expensive, are some rare?
I know Disney Pins have a huge following but I don't have a clue about them.
 
Disney pins come in two basic types: open edition and limited editions. The open edition pins means there is no set release size, so they can order more if the design proves to be popular. The limited edition pins means there is a set release size and when they run out, they're out. For example, a limited edition size of 5,000 means, they will make/sell 5,000 of that design and then that's it (let's not worry about scrappers, fakes, and counterfeits at this point). In prices vary depending on the size, complexity, and features of the pin. One-dimension open edition pins tend to be less expensive, while multi-dimensional limited edition pins tend to be pricier. Pin designs cover a wide spectrum of characters, places, events, etc. You can easily spend hundreds of dollars if you start buying lots of pins.

The Disney Merchandise Pin webpage is a good place to get a sense of what is coming out in the near future (or has come out), the edition size, and the price.
http://disneyparksmerchandise.com/pins

There are several fan-based pin pages. Pinpics.com is one example; there you can find information about pins and (often) get a sense how "rare" a pin is.
http://www.pinpics.com/index1.php

If you stick to buying pins through Disney, you won't really have to worry about scrappers, fakes, or counterfeits, but if you start to look into buying pins from third-party vendors or places like eBay/Amazon, then it becomes an issue. Until you are very well versed in pins, I would recommend avoiding any non-Disney source (especially eBay).
 
Thanks Figment. Could you tell me what the difference is between open and multi-dimensioned is and also I noticed on the back of my new Herbie and Hook pin it silver, what does that mean?
Do you collect using an album instead of a neck strap that you see a lot of people wearing? I can recall the pin station and Art Of Disney shop at Downtown Disney selling a type of 'book/album' to display them.
Do you just pick ones you like of do you look for specific ones?
 
Could you tell me what the difference is between open and multi-dimensioned is and also I noticed on the back of my new Herbie and Hook pin it silver, what does that mean?
Sorry, it's a bit confusing, I know! Open Edition and Multi-Dimensioned refer to two different elements of the pins. Open Edition refers to how many of the pins are made to be sold. Open Edition pins don't have a set release size when the pin is sold (i.e., they could make tens of thousands of them). "Multi-Dimensional" (or "Pin-On-Pin") refers to how many layers there are on the pin itself.

Take a look at the official pin release announcement for August at Disneyland:
http://www.disneyparksmerchandise.com/pins/august-2015-pin-releases-at-the-disneyland-resort/

The bottom row are all open edition pins (you'll see that it says "OPEN EDITION" under the picture). Other pins, have an edition size listed (e.g., look at the Pluto pin, upper right corner; it says "Edition Size: 2,000", which means there will only be 2,000 pins available). In terms of the multi-dimensional pin, take a look at the Olaf pin the middle. You can see that there is a hinged part (the silver circle), that can be opened or closed. So this pin has at least two dimensions (the base of the pin, plus the silver hinged part).

I think most of the pins these days have a silver colored back (with embossed classic Mickey heads).

Do you collect using an album instead of a neck strap that you see a lot of people wearing? I can recall the pin station and Art Of Disney shop at Downtown Disney selling a type of 'book/album' to display them.
I have some on lanyards, but most of my pins are either on cork boards or in pin albums. I have hundreds (if not a thousand) of pins, so I needs lots of space to put pins. :rotfl:

Do you just pick ones you like of do you look for specific ones?
I only buy pins I like, but I like lots of different things. I mostly collect seasonal pins (e.g., Halloween, Christmas), favorite characters (e.g., Figment, Stitch), and things that remind me of my trips (e.g., attractions, places, etc.).
 


Thank you for all your help!
A really lovely cast member at the One Mans Dream attraction last week gave me a pin to pass on to my Godson and since then I thought I see what the pin collecting was about, I subsequently saw Herbie and Captain Hook and thought they'd be a cool place to begin.
Can you remember the first pin you bought?
 
Are you thinking of starting to buy pins or get into pin trading? Those are two very different things...

Sorry, I don't recall my first pin. It was probably a Disney pin...
 


This is my explain of pin trading and some of the major caveats...

Pin trading can be a lot of fun, but it can also be very addictive and expensive! I love to trade pins and it's a major part of my trips to Disney, but I only trade with Cast Members.

How to Trade: Essentially, you purchase some pins (there are many options for where, how, etc.) and then take them with you. You'll see CMs that are wearing lanyards (either neck or hip) of varying colors (e.g., black, maroon, green/teal). The green/teal lanyards are for trading with children only. When you see a CM with a lanyard, you just go up to them and ask if you may look at their pins. If you see one you like, you offer to trade one of your pins for that pin. Aside from a few limitations, the CMs cannot refuse a trade.

The CMs can only refuse to trade if the pin you are offering is already on their lanyard (i.e., a duplicate), if the pin is not in good condition (i.e., scratched image, broken, etc.), not a Disney pin (no Disney copyright on the back), or not a pin (i.e., buttons cannot be traded). For the CMs, they only have to trade the pins on their lanyards, so any service pins that they might be wearing on their costume or nametags are not for trading.

Disney has published some guidelines:
http://disney.go.com/eventservices/howtopintrade.pdf

In addition to the neck or hip lanyards that CMs may be wearing, you may also find pin boards, books, or other objects (e.g., I’ve seen a life preserver at OKW ). Those can have lots pins to look at. The trading rules are the same, as with the CM lanyards. Some boards/books/objects are out at all times, but others may only come out at certain times.

In terms of the CMs that wear lanyards, look in the shops, at the ride entrances, janitorial, management, and (sometimes) security. The ride operators and loaders tend not to have lanyards.

Costs: Pin trading can be very expensive, especially if you buy pins after you get to Disney. Disney sells individual pins (don't buy these for trading – they’re very expensive) and starter/booster sets. Starter/Booster sets are usually sets of 7 or so pins for about $30. If you run out of pins or decide to start trading after you've arrived, booster/starter sets are your best bet. Other sources include the Disney Stores, Disney Outlets, and the DisneyStore.com. I would keep an eye on the DisneyStore.com's clearance section for good deals. You can also buy pins on eBay or non-Disney sites, but be careful. Those can often be scrappers/ counterfeits /fakes, especially if they're super cheap (e.g., less than a few dollars per pin).

Caveats: there are a few other things worth noting about trading. The first are the "professional" traders and the second are "scrappers".

Professional Traders: My advice is to be wary of the professional pin traders. These are the non-CM traders that are sometimes found outside of the store in Tomorrowland, Frontierland, and over in DTD (they might be elsewhere, but that's where I've seen them). These folks do not have to trade with you nor do they have to adhere to the Disney trading guidelines (e.g., one pin for one pin). I'm sure some of them are nice folks, but I would be cautious when approaching them for a trade because for many of them this is a business so they're out to get the most valuable/expensive pins possible from you. So if they will trade your pin for their pins, that's probably fine. If they ask you go buy a pin or pins for them, I'd walk away. If you're new to pin trading and do not have a sense of the value (in terms of dollars) of the various pins, I'd avoid the professional traders.

Scrappers, Counterfeits, and Fakes: The second issue is scrappers, counterfeits, and fakes. For some folks this matters, for others it does not. You'll need to decide which camp you are in before you get heavily into pin trading. To the average pin trader, I don't think the difference between a scraper, fake, or counterfeit really matters (because none of these are legitimate pins), but there are slight differences.
  • A scrapper is a pin that looks legitimate, but is not. It can be a factory overrun (i.e., the factory was contracted to make 1 million, but they made 1.1 million instead) or a pin that has some kind of error that should have been "scrapped".
  • A counterfeit pin is a copy of legitimate pin made by someone that was not authorized by Disney.
  • A fake is a pin design that was never authorized by Disney.

Unfortunately, it's not always easy to tell what pin designs are fake unless you know a lot about pins and what designs have been released. These pins can often look like legitimate designs and may contain all of the markings (e.g., copy right) to look legitimate, but they are not. Luckily, I tend to think that outright fakes are the least common type of non-legitimate pins out there.

In terms of the scrapers/counterfeits, those are harder to distinguish the legitimate from non-legitimate. You'll often be able to tell a scrapper/counterfeit because the colors are weird/off, elements are missing or incorrect, or the back stamp (the copy right) is wrong/missing/damaged. Others say you can tell because they feel "rough" or the edges are sharp/pronounced. Sadly, there is no sure fire way to tell a scrapper/counterfeit. My guess is that it’s easier to identify the counterfeits and the scrappers that should have been “scrapped”. The factory over-runs probably look exactly like the ones shipped to Disney, so those are nearly impossible to distinguish once they’re in circulation.

It's worth noting that if you do end up trading with CM, the CM lanyards tend to be filled with scrappers, counterfeits, and (to a less extent) fakes. So if you really dislike scrappers/counterfeit, I would avoid trading with CMs. That's the crux of the argument: those that dislike scrappers/counterfeits feel they cheapen the trading and make it not worthwhile. Those that don't care, tend to say that they like the pin, so it doesn't really matter if it's a scrapper/counterfeit or not (they also say that if you can't tell, does it really matter?). Both points are valid.

eBay: eBay is a popular source for pins, but it can be a tough place to buy legitimate (i.e., non-scrapper/counterfeits/fake) pins. The general rule of thumb is that you buy a "lot" of pins (e.g., 25-pins) and the price per pin is less than a couple of dollars each, you're likely buying scrappers. Also, if you buy pins that come in little baggies (instead of pin cards like the ones you see at the stores in WDW/DLR), those are more likely to be scrappers as well. My recommendation is to look for sellers that are selling pins still on their backing and/or unopened booster sets (also still on their cardboard backing wrapped in plastic). In truth, unless you only buy from Disney directly, it is hard to say whether you'll get scrappers/counterfeits/fakes or not.
 
A few small things to add.

Ebay has the best deals on Disney Pins. Never EVER pay more than $1 per pin.

Also, make sure you see the back of a pin, before you trade.

Most genuine Disney Pins have the mickey pattern on the back.

Finally, do not buy or trade a pin, if it does not have the pin trading logo on the back.

Happy Trading!
 
I would just caveat a few of the things that TGM said.
Ebay has the best deals on Disney Pins. Never EVER pay more than $1 per pin.
I agree that eBay has some of the best deals on Disney pins, it is also one of the largest sources of scrapper, counterfeit, and fake pins. If you end up paying less than $1 per pin, you are most likely buying a scrapper, counterfeit, and fake pins. It's up to you to decide if you're okay with that or not, but it's worth knowing that is mostly likely what you'll be getting. While there is really no way to know for certain that you're getting a legitimate pin, looking for pins that are still in their original packaging is one technique.

Also, make sure you see the back of a pin, before you trade. Most genuine Disney Pins have the mickey pattern on the back. Finally, do not buy or trade a pin, if it does not have the pin trading logo on the back.
This is true for the pins produced since trading got really popular (I'd guess in the early 2000's or so). Older, but legitimate Disney Pins, do not have the Mickey backs or the pin trading logo. You don't see older pins very often, but sometimes they do appear (most likely it's the professional traders that have them). I've got some pins that I bought at WDW in the 1980's that have just a plain gold colored back and Disney copy right.
 
This is true for the pins produced since trading got really popular (I'd guess in the early 2000's or so). Older, but legitimate Disney Pins, do not have the Mickey backs or the pin trading logo. You don't see older pins very often, but sometimes they do appear (most likely it's the professional traders that have them). I've got some pins that I bought at WDW in the 1980's that have just a plain gold colored back and Disney copy right.

Yes, but Disney did not start the whole pin trading thing until the Millennium Celebration in 2000
 
Yes, but Disney did not start the whole pin trading thing until the Millennium Celebration in 2000
That's consistent with I remember as well. However, my point was that Disney has been selling pins for long before the Millenium Celebration. So, there are a fair amount of legitimate Disney pins that do not have the Official Disney Pin Trading logo on the back. I wouldn't advise folks to buy these on eBay (or anywhere) until they're fairly well versed in Disney pins, but the lack of the Pin Trading logo does not mean it's necessarily a fake pin.
 
That's consistent with I remember as well. However, my point was that Disney has been selling pins for long before the Millenium Celebration. So, there are a fair amount of legitimate Disney pins that do not have the Official Disney Pin Trading logo on the back. I wouldn't advise folks to buy these on eBay (or anywhere) until they're fairly well versed in Disney pins, but the lack of the Pin Trading logo does not mean it's necessarily a fake pin.

Yes, so the rule of thumb is use common sense.
 

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