This must be wreckage from MH370

jec6613 · Jul 31, 2015

DebbieB said:
I know it's far fetched, but part of me wonders if the part was "planted" in the ocean to throw searchers off. Who knows where the rest of it is. I've always been skeptical about the whole thing.

Far fetched, yes, but not crazy. It's a trick the human brain plays on us: for something as monumental as a state of the air aircraft to disappear with nothing but a few bits of satellite data triangulated by using Doppler shifts is pretty incredible, we expect an equally incredible explanation. It's what makes the JFK and 9/11 conspiracies so believable to so many people, we expect a larger operation to be required for a larger tragedy.

The moon landing conspiracy theories I have no idea about though. We lit off thirteen Saturn V's, it sure as heck wasn't just for show.

Ceila · Jul 31, 2015

Dinolounger, why are you so invested in "proving" this? Did you lose someone you care about on that flight? If so, please accept my sympathies. I can't think of any other reason that anyone would be so hard pressed to see an offical confirmation when there hasn't yet been one.

jec6613 · Jul 31, 2015

dinolounger said:
I have seen no evidence that Boeing warehouses this particular part all over the world and if they do that they don't have inventory management and would immediately know if any were missing.

Of course they warehouse critical parts over the globe, and that they're also not all produced in Everett, WA. It's part of the selling point for the 777: that Boeing has ETOPS airports on long haul routes around the globe. The most notable is Midway, with parts supply in Oahu, but there are others. And of course they have inventory control, but some of these parts are sold to other nations, particularly in the Arabian peninsula (which is darn close to where this one was found) and used for their own programs without Boeing inventory tracking. Not to mention, if an old one was thrown into the ocean by one of several countries (Qatar, UAE ...) that have large 777 investments and their own maintenance bases and not the greatest environmental regulations on state owned airlines ...

Of course alternative theories are far fetched, but until they the part is examined and its history proven, there is a small amount of uncertainty.

mnrose · Jul 31, 2015

This is the most inane argument ever. Some people saying 100% it's the part from THE plane. Other people saying "very, very likely, but not 100% proven." I think there must be .0005% difference between those two points of view, and seriously, this discussion has gone on for multiple pages. LOL. Must be a pretty boring day in some parts of the US.

Ceila · Jul 31, 2015

mnrose said:
This is the most inane argument ever. Some people saying 100% it's the part from THE plane. Other people saying "very, very likely, but not 100% proven." I think there must be .0005% difference between those two points of view, and seriously, this discussion has gone on for multiple pages. LOL. Must be a pretty boring day in some parts of the US.

Actually, it's only one person insisting that it's been confirmed. And when it was pointed out that the statement wasn't quite accurate, she reacted rather poorly.
I guess it's a pretty boring day where you are, too, since you decided to join the thread. :confused3

Goofy_Disney_Dad · Jul 31, 2015

Wow, this one is an interesting read...

dinolounger · Jul 31, 2015

jec6613 said:
until they the part is examined and its history proven, there is a small amount of uncertainty.

Yes, somewhere in the range of a comet falling on your head, then bouncing into a nearby trampoline, which launches it into an arc across town, where it crashes through the roof a gym where basketball playoff is occurring and does perfect "swish" through a basket, then bounces off the game floor and lands in the lap of a cheerleader, who mistakes it for a pom pom and hurls it behind herself, where it finally comes rest perfectly in the middle of the top of a trophy case.

jec6613 · Jul 31, 2015

More along the lines of a car part found on the side of the road after an accident being unrelated to the accident, but off of the same make and model.

Allison · Aug 1, 2015

Others are saying there has not been official confirmation announced at this point. It's not that everyone doesn't believe it to be the missing plane.

Minniesgal · Aug 1, 2015

Highly likely yes, Confirmed conclusively no!

Skywalker · Aug 1, 2015

I am very confused by dinolounger right now...why are you arguing so vehemently that it is from the plane, when most people can agree that is likely the case? When you say it has been confirmed however, you are wrong, and that is all that others are saying. Its not that you are the only one who has cracked the mystery lol.

gwynne · Aug 1, 2015

Skywalker said:
I am very confused by dinolounger right now...why are you arguing so vehemently that it is from the plane, when most people can agree that is likely the case? When you say it has been confirmed however, you are wrong, and that is all that others are saying. Its not that you are the only one who has cracked the mystery lol.

Exactly. And I get that he has does not find the process of aircraft accident investigation compelling, and that is OK.
On the other hand people who find the investigation process of some interest aren't in a rush to do a brief skim and then be off to the next topic.
Aircraft accident investigation is a slow methodical process, and for that reason alone I'm sure some don't find it their cup of tea.
There is room for both ways of looking at this subject, quick glance and long term in-depth reading.

Ceila · Aug 1, 2015

gwynne said:
Exactly. And I get that he has does not find the process of aircraft accident investigation compelling, and that is OK.
On the other hand people who find the investigation process of some interest aren't in a rush to do a brief skim and then be off to the next topic.
Aircraft accident investigation is a slow methodical process, and for that reason alone I'm sure some don't find it their cup of tea.
There is room for both ways of looking at this subject, quick glance and long term in-depth reading.

Agreed. The victims' families deserve 100% accuracy. Leaving a speck of doubt, even something as unlikely as the debris being from a spare part, would be horribly cruel to those needing answers. The investigators are doing exactly what they should - taking their time to be sure they are completely correct.

Minniesgal · Aug 1, 2015

If MH 370 crashed in the Indian Ocean it is not the only plane to have done so in fact it is not even the only Boeing.

Reports here are saying initial inspections indicate it doesn't seem to have been in the water long enough to be from MH 370.

Nothing is conclusive yet, and it isn;t fair to those affected to make rash statements before it is.

EMAW_KSU · Aug 1, 2015

Allison said:
Others are saying there has not been official confirmation announced at this point. It's not that everyone doesn't believe it to be the missing plane.

That seems like a very simple concept to understand.

SirDuff · Aug 1, 2015

What I find fascinating is the discussion about what confirmation would mean (and not mean) in terms of what determining what may have happened to the flight. Fascinating what they can determine (or, at least, suspect) from one small piece of a plane. Sad, for the families, that it still wouldn't be a full explanation (and, from what I've read, doesn't mean that they would soon find a lot of other pieces).

JaxDad · Aug 1, 2015

I hate to distract from the lively "confirmed" vs. "highly probable" debate, but I was just wondering if CNN has returned to 24/7 MH370 coverage? I remember seeing nothing but that on the TVs in the gym for at least a month after the original disappearance.

DebbieB · Aug 1, 2015

JaxDad said:
I hate to distract from the lively "confirmed" vs. "highly probable" debate, but I was just wondering if CNN has returned to 24/7 MH370 coverage? I remember seeing nothing but that on the TVs in the gym for at least a month after the original disappearance.

I have it on now, it was mentioned but they are also covering other things.

JaxDad · Aug 1, 2015

That's good. It seemed way over the top last time, at least from my sampling. They kept trotting out new experts and new theories. Maybe it was sweeps month...

DebbieB · Aug 1, 2015

They have other stories to dwell on - the lion killer, Bobbie Kristina's funeral, drones over JFK, Donald Trump.

This must be wreckage from MH370

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