BOG breakfast for Mine train warning! Early ride not guaranteed

I've been going a long time and have no memory of it ever being this way unless we just did qs- which is pretty much what we do now with a rare exception here and there.



But this I couldn't agree with more. Thanks for the reminder of what's really important.

Oh I remember not needing ADR's. We went in June 2000 and walked into any restaurant we wanted at World Showcase, Downtown Disney, and DHS. We even got a table at Hollywood Brown Derby. The only three restaurants we had ADRs for were CRT, CM, and V&A.
 
Did the bog breakfast on Tuesday and people were allowed in before the mass of bodies walking up Main Street. We headed to space mountain.

So glad to hear this! Do you mean people were allowed to queue for 7DMT before the RD folks arrived?
 
Nobody should ever 100% think they'll ride a ride if they do an early adr to beat the crowds. Should at least be at the front of the pack, and great if you can ride before park opening or before rope drop people get there..but that's just an added bonus that can be hit or miss
 


Bumping this thread to see if anyone has been to BOG since the thread started here. I currently have a breakfast and lunch reservation for the same day (just in case), so I'm eagerly awaiting the reports.
 
Anyone go yet??? Any changes?

Bumping this thread to see if anyone has been to BOG since the thread started here. I currently have a breakfast and lunch reservation for the same day (just in case), so I'm eagerly awaiting the reports.

See post #219 for a more recent update. Someone went Tuesday and it sounds like things were back to normal.

I'd love to see more confirmations of that though!
 
I'd like to see the confirmations correlated to the day of the week. I'm assuming that CMs pull their duty shifts based on specific days, so maybe it's the Wed. CMs who are doing this and the Tue. CMs who aren't.
 


I'd like to see the confirmations correlated to the day of the week. I'm assuming that CMs pull their duty shifts based on specific days, so maybe it's the Wed. CMs who are doing this and the Tue. CMs who aren't.

You made me panic for a moment as my reservation is on an upcoming Wednesday!!! :scared: I checked and the OP went on a Sunday, so I'm not sure where you got Wed. vs. Tues. Maybe you were just using those days as examples... but you got me scared! haha :)
 
You made me panic for a moment as my reservation is on an upcoming Wednesday!!! :scared: I checked and the OP went on a Sunday, so I'm not sure where you got Wed. vs. Tues. Maybe you were just using those days as examples... but you got me scared! haha :)
Sorry, yes, I should have explicitly said that those were examples pulled out of thin air.
 
Exactly my point. Some see it as a "loophole", but what about those that couldn't get a BOG dinner or lunch ADR, and just really want to experience EATING there, just being there, but they can't get a breakfast ADR either...if your family is taking up that spot, with no intention on using it, that's not exactly being gracious....

We went last October, made our ADR's, our FP's, and things went smoothly for the most part. We were able to see and do almost everything we wanted without having to jump through any "loop holes". Trust me, I'm not the moral posse. I was just referring to a post way back where someone had said they'll do whatever it takes to assure THEIR family has a great vacation and does not care about anyone else. That's what I think is sad. I mean, of course we all want our children to have an amazing vacation. But do we really think running in a herd of people, or skipping some of those fantastic meals just for a ride, or doing some of these other things are what makes the trip memorable for our kids? It's not.... You know what will? Just being there with you....just spending time with you, enjoying that meal, taking things slow. My 12 year old told me her best memory of our last trip was being with me, just the two of us, at MNSSHP, in the MK at 1am. She about made me cry! I mean, seriously, out of the whole week, the FP's, the ADR's, cramming it all in, she enjoyed just spending some time with ME. It's that easy, folks! Stop hoarding the ADR's, stop rushing into the park like your life absolutely depends on being first in line for something. Talk to your kids, spend time with them, ENJOY THEM. That is all..

I agree with all this! Folks should really consider what they're getting mad at on vacation... many used "irate" to describe their view of Disney having the gall to tell you to wait in line with everyone else, when they expect to get an edge just because they did before, or heard you could, or assumed you would get some benefit you were never promised. Folks have to remember everything you read on the Dis is not authoritative! The Disney CM that is working that day is the person in charge. So just have fun. Your kids will seriously not care about the extra ride you did or did not get on. They're in Disney World and having a wonderful time with you and being there. Spend more time with them, less time arguing w a CM about how you paid good money to get that reservation which entitles you to get in line before everyone else who legitimately waited at rope drop. Honestly if they're there waiting in line for rope drop they SHOULD get in the ride before you, because you were not in the rope drop line you were eating breakfast. Rope-droppers who stood in line for an hour should absolutely get to go into the queues first over a person who shows up at 8:45 for an 8:50 ressie, hops in the park, then abandons their ressie and goes to the queue.

If I saw someone mad in the park for not getting something they were never due, I would just have to chuckle and move on.

The right way to handle it is if you book a pre-ADR, you do not enter the queue until you're done eating and actually begin waiting. This would put you behind most true rope-droppers. Any other expectation of being able to cut in line ahead of people standing in line at the gates is self-imposed and flawed.
 
we had an 8:05 BOG reservation this AM. We were done eating & out waiting near Mine Train at 8:30. They did not let us in early. They told us we had to wait until they saw the rope droppers come around the corner, near teacups/pooh. Once the masses showed up, they held us back & made us get at the END OF THE LINE. We jumped out & went to SM. We were at the very back of the RD pack . We ran into another family that was waiting with us, outside of BOG, THE DAD WAS LIVUD. They were in the exact opposite situation earlier in the week. They were at the fron of the RD pack & the BOG people were sent in first.

I agree with all this! Folks should really consider what they're getting mad at on vacation... many used "irate" to describe their view of Disney having the gall to tell you to wait in line with everyone else, when they expect to get an edge just because they did before, or heard you could, or assumed you would get some benefit you were never promised. Folks have to remember everything you read on the Dis is not authoritative! The Disney CM that is working that day is the person in charge. So just have fun. Your kids will seriously not care about the extra ride you did or did not get on. They're in Disney World and having a wonderful time with you and being there. Spend more time with them, less time arguing w a CM about how you paid good money to get that reservation which entitles you to get in line before everyone else who legitimately waited at rope drop. Honestly if they're there waiting in line for rope drop they SHOULD get in the ride before you, because you were not in the rope drop line you were eating breakfast. Rope-droppers who stood in line for an hour should absolutely get to go into the queues first over a person who shows up at 8:45 for an 8:50 ressie, hops in the park, then abandons their ressie and goes to the queue.

If I saw someone mad in the park for not getting something they were never due, I would just have to chuckle and move on.

The right way to handle it is if you book a pre-ADR, you do not enter the queue until you're done eating and actually begin waiting. This would put you behind most true rope-droppers. Any other expectation of being able to cut in line ahead of people standing in line at the gates is self-imposed and flawed.

The OP, to refresh your fuzzy memory.
 
I agree with all this! Folks should really consider what they're getting mad at on vacation... many used "irate" to describe their view of Disney having the gall to tell you to wait in line with everyone else, when they expect to get an edge just because they did before, or heard you could, or assumed you would get some benefit you were never promised. Folks have to remember everything you read on the Dis is not authoritative! The Disney CM that is working that day is the person in charge. So just have fun. Your kids will seriously not care about the extra ride you did or did not get on. They're in Disney World and having a wonderful time with you and being there. Spend more time with them, less time arguing w a CM about how you paid good money to get that reservation which entitles you to get in line before everyone else who legitimately waited at rope drop. Honestly if they're there waiting in line for rope drop they SHOULD get in the ride before you, because you were not in the rope drop line you were eating breakfast. Rope-droppers who stood in line for an hour should absolutely get to go into the queues first over a person who shows up at 8:45 for an 8:50 ressie, hops in the park, then abandons their ressie and goes to the queue.

If I saw someone mad in the park for not getting something they were never due, I would just have to chuckle and move on.

The right way to handle it is if you book a pre-ADR, you do not enter the queue until you're done eating and actually begin waiting. This would put you behind most true rope-droppers. Any other expectation of being able to cut in line ahead of people standing in line at the gates is self-imposed and flawed.

Yeah, sorry, it's not fun if the park is open for the day and you are literally being held back from getting in a line. You need to re-read the OP's post. OP never mentioned she was "entitled" to get in line before the RD people. What she mentioned is she was held back at park opening and told to get in the back of the line. That's not cool. Hasn't this already been covered in this thread?

I have an 8:05 am reservation for BOG. It will be me and DS7. We will be done with our breakfast by 8:30 am at the very latest. So, then we are going to get in whatever line the CM's have conspired for that day in that area and wait for RD. That means we will be waiting for at least 30 minutes. I won't be making an 8:45 am reservation and I won't be skipping out on anything. But, just because we ate breakfast we will now be penalized and not be able to enter a line when the park opens? Because we didn't "legitimately" wait at RD? How do you know how long rope droppers have stood in line? And I just "legitimately" waited 30 minutes for the park to open. So what if I ate breakfast for the 30 minutes prior to that? If a RD guest brings something to eat along with them while they wait in the RD line, should they be penalized too because they were eating their breakfast?

Sorry, I think your reasoning is ridiculous. If you are done with your breakfast when the park opens, you should not be held back from entering a ride line.
 
Yeah, sorry, it's not fun if the park is open for the day and you are literally being held back from getting in a line. You need to re-read the OP's post. OP never mentioned she was "entitled" to get in line before the RD people. What she mentioned is she was held back at park opening and told to get in the back of the line. That's not cool. Hasn't this already been covered in this thread?

I have an 8:05 am reservation for BOG. It will be me and DS7. We will be done with our breakfast by 8:30 am at the very latest. So, then we are going to get in whatever line the CM's have conspired for that day in that area and wait for RD. That means we will be waiting for at least 30 minutes. I won't be making an 8:45 am reservation and I won't be skipping out on anything. But, just because we ate breakfast we will now be penalized and not be able to enter a line when the park opens? Because we didn't "legitimately" wait at RD? How do you know how long rope droppers have stood in line? And I just "legitimately" waited 30 minutes for the park to open. So what if I ate breakfast for the 30 minutes prior to that? If a RD guest brings something to eat along with them while they wait in the RD line, should they be penalized too because they were eating their breakfast?

Sorry, I think your reasoning is ridiculous. If you are done with your breakfast when the park opens, you should not be held back from entering a ride line.

I got the OP's drift. Doesn't it make sense to handle it that way? Think about it. Park opens at 9. A thousand ppl get there at 8 and wait it out to be first in line to the SDMT. Someone else arrives at 8:30, but has a breakfast reservation for 8:45. So they go in, skip their res, and cut in front of the thousand people. That's essentially what the OP was saying the CM did not allow. They said no, you have to wait for all these ppl who were legitimately there in line since 8:00 to go first. They were there first, they should get to go first. Sure that means you have to stand there till 9:15 or whatever, but isn't that right? They WERE there before you. An ADR is not a pass to skip ahead of 1000 ppl for a ride, it's a dining reservation.

Even if you have that 8:05 ressie and like you say you "get done with breakfast and... [should therefore be allowed to line jump ahead of the thousand people in line already]". While you're eating for an hour, you are not waiting in line. I know that it's been done that way in the past. I've done it many times even. Just saying it's not right to expect to go ahead of those people, and the right thing to do is either get there at 8am and actually wait it out and be first, or get there later and go later. If you go eat, you're getting out of line.
 
I got the OP's drift. Doesn't it make sense to handle it that way? Think about it. Park opens at 9. A thousand ppl get there at 8 and wait it out to be first in line to the SDMT. Someone else arrives at 8:30, but has a breakfast reservation for 8:45. So they go in, skip their res, and cut in front of the thousand people. That's essentially what the OP was saying the CM did not allow. They said no, you have to wait for all these ppl who were legitimately there in line since 8:00 to go first. They were there first, they should get to go first. Sure that means you have to stand there till 9:15 or whatever, but isn't that right? They WERE there before you. An ADR is not a pass to skip ahead of 1000 ppl for a ride, it's a dining reservation.

You are totally misrepresenting the OP. She had an 8:05 ADR, clearly stated she ate breakfast, then went outside to wait. Your description of what happened to the OP is completely wrong.
 
You are totally misrepresenting the OP. She had an 8:05 ADR, clearly stated she ate breakfast, then went outside to wait. Your description of what happened to the OP is completely wrong.

Did you even read the 2nd paragraph? That's exactly what I said. Having an ADR does not entitle you to jump the line to a ride. When there are 1000 ppl who have been standing in line for it since probly 8am on a 9am opening day.

Slow down a bit, reread the posts. Think about what you're advocating. You're saying... if a thousand people are there at 8am, and stand in line for an hour for the park to open... if you simply get a ressie and go eat, you should for some reason get to A) not wait in line, B) go sit down and eat, often times a character breakfast / attraction, and C) exit breakfast, and go ahead of everybody who queued up outside since 8am. That does not make sense that you think that should be the practice. You did not wait in line. You went to eat. You should go after all those who waited.
 
Did you even read the 2nd paragraph? That's exactly what I said. Having an ADR does not entitle you to jump the line to a ride. When there are 1000 ppl who have been standing in line for it since probly 8am on a 9am opening day.

Slow down a bit, reread the posts. Think about what you're advocating. You're saying... if a thousand people are there at 8am, and stand in line for an hour for the park to open... if you simply get a ressie and go eat, you should for some reason get to A) not wait in line, B) go sit down and eat, often times a character breakfast / attraction, and C) exit breakfast, and go ahead of everybody who queued up outside since 8am. That does not make sense that you think that should be the practice. You did not wait in line. You went to eat. You should go after all those who waited.

Yes, that is EXACTLY what I'm saying. The OP, myself, and anyone else who has done this is making an efficient decision. Instead of standing at the gate like cattle for an hour and then entering the park like they're being chased by a zombie horde, they get to enter the park in a leisurely manner free of crowds, have a great breakfast, and then get to take their place in a ride line early. I'm doing my waiting in a restaurant instead of at the gate. I'm not seeing the unfairness in that. Anyone could make the same choice. It's not my fault that they don't.

Go read my posts....I tell people to do this all the time at H&V to ensure a spot in JTA AND to get a ride in at TSM. I've been doing that since 2011, with a 100% success rate. On our trip in December, we were the first family to sign up for JTA and were over to TSM before anyone from the gate even arrived, and with full bellies and having met 4 characters that morning. I got 4 characters, a meal, a JTA signup, and a ride on TSM in an hour. People who arrived and stood at the gate at the same time I did accomplished far less. WHY should I feel bad about that?
 
Did you even read the 2nd paragraph? That's exactly what I said. Having an ADR does not entitle you to jump the line to a ride. When there are 1000 ppl who have been standing in line for it since probly 8am on a 9am opening day.

Slow down a bit, reread the posts. Think about what you're advocating. You're saying... if a thousand people are there at 8am, and stand in line for an hour for the park to open... if you simply get a ressie and go eat, you should for some reason get to A) not wait in line, B) go sit down and eat, often times a character breakfast / attraction, and C) exit breakfast, and go ahead of everybody who queued up outside since 8am. That does not make sense that you think that should be the practice. You did not wait in line. You went to eat. You should go after all those who waited.

To follow this logic, how DARE those people with FPs relax over lunch, stroll up to Toy Story Mania at 1:00 and waltz right in for the ride? Don't they know people have been standing in line for an hour waiting their turn? Why should they get to go relax over lunch and then expect to hop right on a ride?

Oh, that's right...they PLANNED! And that's what people with early ADRs are doing as well. And, honestly, they've arrived before the people who get there at 8:00. So they've been waiting even longer. They just better managed their time while waiting. AND they're paying for the privilege as well. I mean $20 for a little breakfast isn't exactly a bargain. But people are willing to do it because of the early park admission. (And I'm not addressing those who make the reservation and never show up--I'm talking about those who have every intention of going to eat first and then getting a jump start into the park.)
 
To follow this logic, how DARE those people with FPs relax over lunch, stroll up to Toy Story Mania at 1:00 and waltz right in for the ride? Don't they know people have been standing in line for an hour waiting their turn? Why should they get to go relax over lunch and then expect to hop right on a ride?

Oh, that's right...they PLANNED! And that's what people with early ADRs are doing as well. And, honestly, they've arrived before the people who get there at 8:00. So they've been waiting even longer. They just better managed their time while waiting. AND they're paying for the privilege as well. I mean $20 for a little breakfast isn't exactly a bargain. But people are willing to do it because of the early park admission. (And I'm not addressing those who make the reservation and never show up--I'm talking about those who have every intention of going to eat first and then getting a jump start into the park.)

Yes, if we follow Mr. Infinity's fuzzy logic ;) then you'd think he'd hate the idea of FP+.
 

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