This must be wreckage from MH370

dinolounger · Jul 29, 2015

The reports that came out today of an airplane part washing up on the French Reunion Island off the coast of Africa state it may be a part of the Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 that disappeared in March of 2014. They also say "it is still being investigated, " has to go to France to be definitively examined and that said process will take "weeks."

But the experts on the web -- including those from Boeing -- have already compared pictures of the part that washed ashore to diagrams of a wing section of a Boeing 777, showing the wreckage is an exact match. This piece is clearly a B777 flaperon unit. And since MH370 is the only missing 777, the wreckage had to come from it.

Here is the area of the plane that the part came from, on the trailing edge of the starboard wing, just to the right of the starboard engine:

The interesting question that remains is how did this wreckage get over 3,000 miles away from the plane's last confirmed location?

Goofy_Disney_Dad · Jul 29, 2015

I wonder what other Boeing aircraft this part matches as well.

dinolounger · Jul 29, 2015

Goofy_Disney_Dad said:
I wonder what other Boeing aircraft this part matches as well.

From a dimensions standpoint, probably none. I'm not an expert, but suspect the wing dimensions of various Boeing aircraft are likely unique. They may employ similar structures, but having frequently flown on 777s I can tell the overall size of that airframe is bigger than just about anything else Boeing manufactures, perhaps short of a 747 (wingspan on a 777 is actual four feet more than that of the 747).

Also, I don't know how many other Boeing aircraft are missing in that part of the world. Or put another way, authorities probably already have a pretty good idea of what other lost aircraft a wing part washing up east of Africa could possibly be from (some articles mention an Airbus that went down in the general area of Reunion years ago).

Lastly, Boeing itself is now saying this they they think this is wreckage from MH370:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/29/africa/mh370-debris-investigation/

Quote from article: "The source said there is a unique element to the Boeing 777's flaperon, a wing component, that Boeing observers believe they are seeing in photos."

mmouse37 · Jul 29, 2015

The tide carrying it 3,000 miles does not seem strange to me at all. Look at all the debris that washed up on the West Coast from the Japanese tsunami and earthquake from 2011. That was over 8,000 miles away.

MJ

Tiffylv · Jul 29, 2015

dinolounger · Jul 29, 2015

mmouse37 said:
The tide carrying it 3,000 miles does not seem strange to me at all. Look at all the debris that washed up on the West Coast from the Japanese tsunami and earthquake from 2011. That was over 8,000 miles away.

MJ

Good point. And look at the size of some what traveled that distance.

Floating dock washed up on beach in Oregon:

Not sure what the heck this is:

Eerie- some sort of bin that floated over from Japan, with the same numbers as the missing Malaysian flight.

elphaba91 · Jul 30, 2015

Apparently there is a number on it (BB670) that should allow them to identify conclusively whether or not the part is from MH370, hopefully within a day. It sounds as though experts are pretty certain it's from a Boeing 777, and as there is only one of those missing, it seems highly likely. However, while identifying this part will prove that the plane has crashed (and rule out wild theories of alien abduction or it being intact and in possession of someone with nefarious intentions), but it won't necessarily be much help in finding the rest of the plane. It is highly likely that parts of the plane have been carried away by currents, as far as 5,000km away and it is impossible to work backwards and determine where the part came from as there are too many variables.

usnuzuloose · Jul 30, 2015

I hope this is something. But I really want to wait and hear if they can confirm it.

bcla · Jul 30, 2015

mmouse37 said:
The tide carrying it 3,000 miles does not seem strange to me at all. Look at all the debris that washed up on the West Coast from the Japanese tsunami and earthquake from 2011. That was over 8,000 miles away.

MJ

I heard that a Harley washed up all the way from Japan to the coast of British Columbia in a large shipping container used as a storage shed. The owner didn't want it back (mourning the loss of family members) even when Harley-Davidson offered to restore it for free. The respected his wishes and accepted the bike as a memorial to the earthquake/tsunami victims and displayed it at their museum.

http://www.jsonline.com/business/tsunami-bike-at-harleydavidson-museum-297bc0l-175708661.html

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Tiffylv said:
I just hope this brings people who had a family member on board that plane one step closer to finding out what happened. I cannot imagine having a family member on board and not having a clue a year and a half later.

Certainly this should bring some closure, but I remember it got really ugly when there were really no answers other than that it obviously wasn't coming back. Many of the Chinese families got extremely testy and irrationally demanded their family members back alive. It was kind of surreal what they were demanding, as if somehow the airline could magically make their family members reappear alive.

dinolounger · Jul 30, 2015

The shredded remains of a suitcase have also just washed up on Reunion (pic below). Now is the time for the forensics experts to be brought in to carefully examine it; it is almost certainly tied to a specific MH370 passenger and if they were identified would become the first solid element of closure for some family.

It is also possible that the arrival of two objects from the plane in quick succession means there may be a "Japan tsunami" type floating belt of debris that is just beginning to approach Reunion. We will know shortly. If that is the case, years from now debates will still be going on about why the exhaustive, over a year long search Australia and Malaysia have been conducting on the Indian Ocean never spotted any of this stuff.

wishesuponastar · Jul 30, 2015

It sure sounds like those items could be from the missing plane. It must be terribly sad for the families.

MrsDuck · Jul 30, 2015

I hope they confirm or deny sooner than later. Closure is much needed for these families!

dinolounger · Jul 30, 2015

It has been DEFINITIVELY confirmed that the flaperon (the wing piece) found Tuesday on Reunion was from MH370.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mi...ane-fragment-found-reunion-island-777-n401281

TLSnell1981 · Jul 30, 2015

dinolounger said:
It has been DEFINITIVELY confirmed that the flaperon (the wing piece) found Tuesday on Reunion was from MH370.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mi...ane-fragment-found-reunion-island-777-n401281

There wasn't much doubt, as you stated, there's only one 777 missing...

wishesuponastar · Jul 30, 2015

Sad but now there is closure for the families. I do wonder how the plane dropped off of radar though.

ZachnElli · Jul 30, 2015

dinolounger said:
It has been DEFINITIVELY confirmed that the flaperon (the wing piece) found Tuesday on Reunion was from MH370.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mi...ane-fragment-found-reunion-island-777-n401281

Actually, it says it's from A 777 but not confirmed from MH370, they haven't confirmed that yet.

Squirlz · Jul 30, 2015

ZachnElli said:
Actually, it says it's from A 777 but not confirmed from MH370, they haven't confirmed that yet.

There are no other 777s missing.

ZachnElli · Jul 30, 2015

I know there aren't any other 777's missing, but they haven't confirmed it's from MH370. It probably is MH370, but they still haven't confirmed it. From what I've read that may take weeks.

bcla · Jul 30, 2015

ZachnElli said:
I know there aren't any other 777's missing, but they haven't confirmed it's from MH370. It probably is MH370, but they still haven't confirmed it. From what I've read that may take weeks.

While I suppose there's no "official" word, it's pretty obvious with a little deductive reasoning.

jec6613 · Jul 31, 2015

bcla said:
While I suppose there's no "official" word, it's pretty obvious with a little deductive reasoning.

There were more starboard inboard flaperons manufactured than there have been Boeing 777's manufactured, and not all of the assemblies made it onto aircraft or are necessarily even accounted for. They're shipping it now to Airbus (because France ... seriously, wait, what?!) and once they have the serial number of the individual parts they'll send it to Boeing, who will be able to compare it to MH370, which still had its factory original flaperon installed.

The process is more than a bit backwards, but proof is in the serial number. It's extremely probable that it's from MH370, but it isn't conclusive yet.

This must be wreckage from MH370

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