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Nasty neighbor, venting to try and control my temper

And it's not just "saying something back", which I likely would've done, too.

It's the police call, then the reporting yesterday and today, with more on the way, etc. That's what could create a "war" with this guy, and that's what's just not worth it. He could go off the deep end - he's already threatened and said he's done some crazy things. He sounds a little unhinged.
 
I certainly got argumentative toward the end. Until then I did nothing wrong and handled it properly. He said some nasty stuff and I let b myself get v baited. He dis the same to the police but they stayed calm. He still almost got taken in.
 
He sounds a tad bit challenged in his rational behavior.....I would avoid at all costs. It sucks but change your walk routine...I promise - the dogs won't care.

with that said - this old time Philly girl would dump a big pile of cow manure in his lawn at night ; he can't claim your dogs did it :)
joke - I would avoid.
 
Tiggeroo said:
I certainly got argumentative toward the end. Until then I did nothing wrong and handled it properly. He said some nasty stuff and I let b myself get v baited. He dis the same to the police but they stayed calm. He still almost got taken in.
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I can see, based on what you've described, where I might have gotten a bit angry and had words with him as well. What I was describing is now, after it's all said a done, he isn't worth the space in your head. It's just a battle that isn't worth the fight. I do understand the "in the moment" emotions though.
 


I'm with the others in regards to not starting a war with this man.
IMO, when someone seems crazy, stay away, because if they truly are unstable, you don't know what they are capable of.
It's not worth the safety of you, your husband or your dogs.
Let him win this battle ::yes::
 
Child protective services....If you think they are mistreating their kids
 


Tiggeroo said:
Also, the first thing I actually said to him is he should try to get to know his neighbors. We all get along with each other here. He said he didn't want to get along with any of his neighbors. I actually said very little to him. I had concern that somebody would come by and flick cigarette ash on his gasoline area and poof. That's what I started out saying to him.
That said, I agree I could have handled it better.
I do wonder what the right response to move your fat *** and your ugly dogs so I don't have to look at them might be?
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The right response is nothing. Doesn't deserve a response. But without knowing where in the conversation that line was and without having heard the tone of your voice (his seems clear, but even that is something we're getting from you, not first-hand) it's hard to know what else to suggest.

The line that got me in your original post was that you needed to be "talked off a ledge", but you were also thinking that maybe you'd go back over there and hope your dog poops on his lawn. That doesn't exactly sound like someone who needs to be talked off a ledge. That sounds like someone who wants the permission of the group to go off and do something kind of stupid. You want permission to pick a fight (or, at least, validation that picking a fight would be well within your right). Let's say you go over there and your dog poops on his lawn. He's told you to stay away. The police have told you to stay away. But no ... you kinda want to go back there just to poop on the guy's lawn. What are you hoping to accomplish?

It doesn't sound like it's a huge inconvenience to simply cross the street or go in the other direction. It sucks that you can't walk past that one house, but in the big picture, is it that bad?

Just let it go, Elsa. Let it go.

:earsboy:
 
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Tiggeroo said:
That's why I posted here. I vent here and then avoid him. Cheap therapy. It also helps me see if I'm ridiculous. However I do have concern for other dogs
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If you have concern for other dogs, then your best bet is to call your local Animal Services or Animal Control office. Explain to them where the house is and what you encountered. Stay calm and factual and keep the emotion out of it. It's something you experienced and you're concerned for the many other people who walk their dogs past that property. If nothing else, there will be a note made in the call log so that the concern is logged. If the Animal Services folks are concerned -- or if they've gotten other calls about him, which they might have -- then they will send over some officers to talk to the man. Chances are, he was making idle threats and trying to be BMOC by scaring you. It's unlikely that he's tossing volatile chemicals or gasoline on his lawn and NO ONE else is noticing. But if the officers get there and find cause for concern, they can write citations, issue fines and get other local authorities involved.

:earsboy:
 
It isn't his lawn. It's the sidewalk. I really won't go over there. But that is the thought in my head. Angry man controls block and forces everybody to walk around his house. He gets his way by being rude amd angry. However, I don't trust him amd would not risk my animals to make a point. I'm honestly not sure of the exact order of words. I can say for sure he entitled gas and harming dogs before I really said anything. And the first thing I said is that is illegal and dangerous and he should just try to get to know his neighbors. He fairly quickly started ranting cursing amd claiming that he is being harassed.
 
Easiest solution is to simply avoid that area. You indicate wanting to report him to local departments and agencies, why? Are you prepared to defend your actions if he files complaints against you? Just avoid the area and move on.
 
Do not argue with crazy people. You will never win!

Again, I would avoid this angry person at all costs. It's not worth it. IMO
 
Tiggeroo said:
It isn't his lawn. It's the sidewalk. I really won't go over there. But that is the thought in my head. Angry man controls block and forces everybody to walk around his house. He gets his way by being rude amd angry. However, I don't trust him amd would not risk my animals to make a point. I'm honestly not sure of the exact order of words. I can say for sure he entitled gas and harming dogs before I really said anything. And the first thing I said is that is illegal and dangerous and he should just try to get to know his neighbors. He fairly quickly started ranting cursing amd claiming that he is being harassed.
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Everybody has told you that you can't argue with crazy, you shouldn't start a war and just cross over the street. But you don't seem satisfied with those answers. What do you want the posters to tell you? That you should report him, that you should go over there so he doesn't control the sidewalk in front of his house? So what if he does? It is better than your dogs finding a piece of poison laced meat thrown over the fence. Let him have his sidewalk. In the larger scope of things, it really is not worth getting into a neighborhood war over.

And I still have a hard time how twins or brothers close to age (you said the boys are both around 12) nicely dressed in polos and shorts and matching haircuts constitutes a cult. Even working in the yard for a few hours a day does not make it a cult. Perhaps this is a summer family project and they are all chipping in. Perhaps the boys are getting paid for their help. Farm children work hours and hours harvesting, baling and doing chores during certain times of the year. And it is not child abuse. Even mom wearing the same jumper while working outside does not seem weird to me. I wear the same work clothes when I work in my yard. I have specific clothes I am ok with getting dirty and ruining.

You don't seem to like these people and how they fit into the neighborhood. Just let it go because your dislike of the family and his temper is a recipe for disaster.
 
There is more to the story of cult but don't care. Never said I was going over there or any other thing. Merely venting. No. I'm not looking for somebody to tell it is ok to do something wrong. Again venting like the title said. I could count on one hand with fingers left over the nber of times I have ever had a heated exchange with anybody. This person threatened me and my animals walked up to my husband and butted his chest against him amd called us sone very nasty names. I never did anything like that. I merely said it was dangerous to pour gasoline on the ground. He argued and ranted at the police and insisted he owned the sidewalk. I admitted I should have just ignored him. I suppose if somebody told you and your wife to get the f off their sidewalk and then told your wife to shove the dog crap bags up her ugly *** you would smile amd say have a nice day. That remark was made after I said I know he went to the bathroom there. I already cleaned it up. Obviously you can't argue with crazy. But the man said he is putting poison out for dogs to eat and pouring gasoline on the ground where people are allowed to walk. And it smelled like gas.ons of little kids walk there with only flip flops on or bare feet.
 
I'd avoid. He sounds absolutely insane; I'd avoid for the safety of my dogs and myself! SO sorry you're in this situation!!
 
Tiggeroo said:
There is more to the story of cult but don't care. Never said I was going over there or any other thing. Merely venting. No. I'm not looking for somebody to tell it is ok to do something wrong. Again venting like the title said. I could count on one hand with fingers left over the nber of times I have ever had a heated exchange with anybody. This person threatened me and my animals walked up to my husband and butted his chest against him amd called us sone very nasty names. I never did anything like that. I merely said it was dangerous to pour gasoline on the ground. He argued and ranted at the police and insisted he owned the sidewalk. I admitted I should have just ignored him. I suppose if somebody told you and your wife to get the f off their sidewalk and then told your wife to shove the dog crap bags up her ugly *** you would smile amd say have a nice day. That remark was made after I said I know he went to the bathroom there. I already cleaned it up. Obviously you can't argue with crazy. But the man said he is putting poison out for dogs to eat and pouring gasoline on the ground where people are allowed to walk. And it smelled like gas.ons of little kids walk there with only flip flops on or bare feet.
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Nope. Because I would have been long gone and not engaged to the point that it became that heated. As I said, the first time he told me that there were chemicals on the grassy patch next to the sidewalk, I would have said thanks and continued on my way. I would not have told him it was illegal, it smelled nor engaged in anyway, especially if I already had some questions about them that they might be crazy or cultish.
 
Sure you are not the first nor will be the last person who is bothered by it. Best thing is to ignore him or call the police if he keeps it up like this. Or better yet, try to kill him with kindness. So sorry you are dealing with this.
 
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