Ngwira
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So many different opinions on this thread...
When does being frugal become unethical?
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Ridiculous. Frugal? Not exactly what I would use
That could be considered MORE ethical because by reusing goods, you are being a better steward of the environment than purchasing new.
Goodwill uses thrift store sales to help people...again, it could be more ethical than buying new.
Ngwira
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I think so too..but she was adamant about the person who could "afford" higher prices taking from the poor who could only afford to shop thrift.
DawnM
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Nope, Goodwill is there for everyone. Goodwill, and other charity thrift stores, survive and support whatever charity it is, because people buy things there. If only poor people shopped there, they would not sell a whole lot of goods.
I don't see any signs that say, "This store is only for the poor. If you make over $XX amount per year, you are not allowed to shop here."
Some of you are either trying to make this really difficult for others to figure out or you're just trying to stir the pot.
Goodwill has no restrictions and is not there for "poor" people to buy from. It exists to resell donated items to raise money for Goodwill charities. They donate to schools and help out others. Used to be only disabled people that were helped.
Knockoff Designer items that are labeled to appear as the real thing is illegal (and unethical). If it just looks like (style) then it's neither.
As for the teenagers sharing a kids meal and scarfing up ketchup, that is a parental issue and has nothing to do with this thread's subject.
Here's the easy way to decide. Does what someone does impact others (i.e., increase costs for all due to theft, returning items not purchased there to a store), if it does, then it's unethical and probably illegal. If what someone does only benefits them (i.e., shopping thrift stores, eating a kids meal), then, no it's not unethical. Couponing is a good example as it's completely ethical and encouraged, although in my opinion, the extreme couponers waste a lot of their time doing so, it's still not wrong in any way. Too many self-serving people try to justify their behavior because they "can't afford" it otherwise. Oh well, get over it. I can't afford a Lamborghini but that doesn't mean I'm entitled to one.
Goodwill has no restrictions and is not there for "poor" people to buy from. It exists to resell donated items to raise money for Goodwill charities. They donate to schools and help out others. Used to be only disabled people that were helped.
Knockoff Designer items that are labeled to appear as the real thing is illegal (and unethical). If it just looks like (style) then it's neither.
As for the teenagers sharing a kids meal and scarfing up ketchup, that is a parental issue and has nothing to do with this thread's subject.
Here's the easy way to decide. Does what someone does impact others (i.e., increase costs for all due to theft, returning items not purchased there to a store), if it does, then it's unethical and probably illegal. If what someone does only benefits them (i.e., shopping thrift stores, eating a kids meal), then, no it's not unethical. Couponing is a good example as it's completely ethical and encouraged, although in my opinion, the extreme couponers waste a lot of their time doing so, it's still not wrong in any way. Too many self-serving people try to justify their behavior because they "can't afford" it otherwise. Oh well, get over it. I can't afford a Lamborghini but that doesn't mean I'm entitled to one.
What? Labels are not my thing, I don't care about them. Anyone can wear any label they want LOL. However counterfit items are illegal and unethical, yes.
Goofy_Disney_Dad
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I just ask what Plato or Socrates would do, then I just do that.
Isn't the whole knockoff thing somewhat of a grey area? I use a laptop with Microsoft Windows that was basically a knockoff off the operating system that Apple was using. Apple also copied the look and feel of the operating system from something Xerox developed but was too stupid to realize what a goldmine they had and never fully developed it.
I prefer Bentham for ethics. Utilitarianism for the win. Or maybe Kant. Sometimes I'm more of a categorical imperatives person.
As someone said upthread, it depends on if its a counterfeit - which infringes on someone's copyright (or what you are talking about is patents) or a knockoff.
(Computer companies pay a lot of money to each other to use each others patented technology - and spend a lot of time suing each other over infringement).
That is why I think it is a grey area. If it wasn't a grey area patent lawyers wouldn't have a booming business. Obviously an identical copy of a patented product is illegal.
It isn't that grey at all when you are talking about counterfeit products. Knockoffs - ethical, counterfeit - illegal in addition to being unethical.
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