pkondz
Brace yourself for immediate disintegration
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DDC XXXIV: The Original Home Of The DISDads!!!
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budamacdvcr
DIS Dad #737
- Joined
- Jul 12, 2011
Welcome back, I guess as I assume you would rather still be on the ship. Under 6 weeks for us now, can't come fast enough with all that is going on with the day job.
Sorry to hear about the luggage but glad all else is doing o.k.
afwdwfan
DIS Dad #460
- Joined
- Apr 23, 2010
Ok. Need to vent. I'm sitting here fuming right now and I figured this is a safe place to just air it out.
DS had a baseball game this evening and I'm an assistant coach. It is a 4, 5 & 6 year old league. We have 12 players. 3 6 year olds, 5 4 year olds and the rest are 5. Only 2 of our 5 year olds have ever played before. We're the most inexperienced team in the league and 0 - 6. But the kids are having fun and getting better every game. We were 1 out away from a tie tonight.
Well, our head coach is coaching another team as well, so as far as game time goes I've been setting lineups and handling the details for the past few games.
We try to be positive with the kids. We're trying to teach the little things. Field the ball and throw to first. Occasionally, depending who is playing at a particular position and their comprehension and skill level we might make them aware of plays at second or third and try to make plays there. But for a lot of them we just have to focus on fundamentals and doing the little things.
We switch the batting order around every game and rotate defensive positions every inning. We don't hide the tiny 4 year old who just wants to dig in the dirt in right field. How else will he learn the game? The best player in the team isn't pitchers helper every inning either. We have 2 pitcher helpers and play 3 inning games, so every inning one of the 6 year olds is always there, one is on first and the other plays a shallow OF/IF utility position behind 2nd. We feel lilt that gives us the best skill sets distributed around the field in key places, yet we can still rotate players and let everyone play pitchers helper from time to time.
Well... we have a dugout mom. Her son is one of the 6 year olds. The third best 6 year old on the team if you care to know...
I keep book and coach the base next to the dugout and she gets a line up card and makes sure the on deck batter is getting ready. Well the past couple of games that family has been getting loud. Tonight, she invited herself out onto the field to help coach.
She planted herself between SS and 3B. Right in the baseline. And yelled at the players nonstop.
None of the coaches yell. So we apparently suck and don't know what we're doing. Yes, kids play in the dirt. Yelling has never kept one from digging and never will. I had to comfort a crying second baseman tonight after he missed a grounder because he was playing in the dirt. I always just try to talk to them in an upbeat way and get them to pay attention by asking if they want to get hit in the butt with a baseball. That usually works for at least the next few pitches.
Tonight, I finally got one of the younger kids to cover 3rd base the way he was supposed to. I never yelled at him to get that to happen. But I did make a big deal of it and run across the field to give him a high five when he did it right. There wasn't even a play there but he did what I asked! Anyway that how I look at it with this age group. It is about just learning the game, and more importantly having fun. If we yell at them about things they don't understand, they'll never enjoy the game.
Well. Tonight one of the 6 year olds said he didn't want to play first. Ok. I put him at short his inning and DS played first. DS is 5. He hadn't played first before. But he spent 2 innings in the OF and was due to play an inning in the infield so I gave him a chance. And DS is typically one of the better fielding 5 year olds we have.
A ball was hit down the line. He bobbled it and didn't make the play. Dugout mom's mom? Mother in law? Sitting in the stands goes ballistic. DW yells at her for yelling at a 5 year old and leaves in tears.
Later on, i catch dugout mom trying to teach DS how to swing a bat in the on deck circle. She and I then had words. Yes, what she was teaching him was technically correct. But well beyond his level. I'm strictly just trying to get a consistent swing while keeping his eyes on the ball. Once we master that, then we can work on the footwork. That is all I need him to do is pull his head because he's over striding all of a sudden.
Anyway... I find out after the game that a parent complained to the league that our coaches don't teach the players everything they need to know and we don't put the right players in the right positions to win. Clearly, I know where that came from. I'm just fed up.
No real reason for this post other than to vent because there's no way I can go to sleep yet because I'm so pissed.
Our head coach just flat out checked out this evening and now I know why. He wanted to just give her the book if she doesn't like how we do it. But now I'm kind of stuck in the middle. He's the only one who is technically listed as coach in the league so she really has as much right to be out there as I do. He clearly is just over it and unwilling to confront her. He spent the whole game tonight standing next to the fence talking to another player's dad. I just want her out of there. And if I had the authority I'd gladly tell her. Kids this age don't need the negativity. My patience is wearing thin and I'm afraid it could get ugly next game.
At least DS had no clue about any of it. Didn't hear grandma yell at him. As far as he's concerned, he went 3 for 3, scored 3 runs and is happily sound asleep. And that's how it should be.
DS had a baseball game this evening and I'm an assistant coach. It is a 4, 5 & 6 year old league. We have 12 players. 3 6 year olds, 5 4 year olds and the rest are 5. Only 2 of our 5 year olds have ever played before. We're the most inexperienced team in the league and 0 - 6. But the kids are having fun and getting better every game. We were 1 out away from a tie tonight.
Well, our head coach is coaching another team as well, so as far as game time goes I've been setting lineups and handling the details for the past few games.
We try to be positive with the kids. We're trying to teach the little things. Field the ball and throw to first. Occasionally, depending who is playing at a particular position and their comprehension and skill level we might make them aware of plays at second or third and try to make plays there. But for a lot of them we just have to focus on fundamentals and doing the little things.
We switch the batting order around every game and rotate defensive positions every inning. We don't hide the tiny 4 year old who just wants to dig in the dirt in right field. How else will he learn the game? The best player in the team isn't pitchers helper every inning either. We have 2 pitcher helpers and play 3 inning games, so every inning one of the 6 year olds is always there, one is on first and the other plays a shallow OF/IF utility position behind 2nd. We feel lilt that gives us the best skill sets distributed around the field in key places, yet we can still rotate players and let everyone play pitchers helper from time to time.
Well... we have a dugout mom. Her son is one of the 6 year olds. The third best 6 year old on the team if you care to know...
I keep book and coach the base next to the dugout and she gets a line up card and makes sure the on deck batter is getting ready. Well the past couple of games that family has been getting loud. Tonight, she invited herself out onto the field to help coach.
She planted herself between SS and 3B. Right in the baseline. And yelled at the players nonstop.
None of the coaches yell. So we apparently suck and don't know what we're doing. Yes, kids play in the dirt. Yelling has never kept one from digging and never will. I had to comfort a crying second baseman tonight after he missed a grounder because he was playing in the dirt. I always just try to talk to them in an upbeat way and get them to pay attention by asking if they want to get hit in the butt with a baseball. That usually works for at least the next few pitches.
Tonight, I finally got one of the younger kids to cover 3rd base the way he was supposed to. I never yelled at him to get that to happen. But I did make a big deal of it and run across the field to give him a high five when he did it right. There wasn't even a play there but he did what I asked! Anyway that how I look at it with this age group. It is about just learning the game, and more importantly having fun. If we yell at them about things they don't understand, they'll never enjoy the game.
Well. Tonight one of the 6 year olds said he didn't want to play first. Ok. I put him at short his inning and DS played first. DS is 5. He hadn't played first before. But he spent 2 innings in the OF and was due to play an inning in the infield so I gave him a chance. And DS is typically one of the better fielding 5 year olds we have.
A ball was hit down the line. He bobbled it and didn't make the play. Dugout mom's mom? Mother in law? Sitting in the stands goes ballistic. DW yells at her for yelling at a 5 year old and leaves in tears.
Later on, i catch dugout mom trying to teach DS how to swing a bat in the on deck circle. She and I then had words. Yes, what she was teaching him was technically correct. But well beyond his level. I'm strictly just trying to get a consistent swing while keeping his eyes on the ball. Once we master that, then we can work on the footwork. That is all I need him to do is pull his head because he's over striding all of a sudden.
Anyway... I find out after the game that a parent complained to the league that our coaches don't teach the players everything they need to know and we don't put the right players in the right positions to win. Clearly, I know where that came from. I'm just fed up.
No real reason for this post other than to vent because there's no way I can go to sleep yet because I'm so pissed.
Our head coach just flat out checked out this evening and now I know why. He wanted to just give her the book if she doesn't like how we do it. But now I'm kind of stuck in the middle. He's the only one who is technically listed as coach in the league so she really has as much right to be out there as I do. He clearly is just over it and unwilling to confront her. He spent the whole game tonight standing next to the fence talking to another player's dad. I just want her out of there. And if I had the authority I'd gladly tell her. Kids this age don't need the negativity. My patience is wearing thin and I'm afraid it could get ugly next game.
At least DS had no clue about any of it. Didn't hear grandma yell at him. As far as he's concerned, he went 3 for 3, scored 3 runs and is happily sound asleep. And that's how it should be.
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AirGoofy
DIS Dad#341
- Joined
- Jul 24, 2009
Evening all. Youngest had 5th grade graduation tonight. Celebrating the mundane, but she does move to a new middle school. Still........ 
It is over. We celebrate by eating at Texas Roadhouse with Shiner Bock draft for me.
Or, if you can move it and it survives, you can use it as a snowbird option. That's our current plan, but if it gets much colder in the winter, then it might be a permanent relocation.
Isn't that always the way. Hope she gets the luggag back quickly or finds some cheap alternatives.
I saw that offered somewhere. That is a good deal. Even better if I could add a week DVC stay in between.
It is over. We celebrate by eating at Texas Roadhouse with Shiner Bock draft for me. On the retirement plan front, had a bit of a brainstorm over the holiday weekend. Was at the campground where we have a Dutch Park park model trailer. I was dreading the idea of trying to sell a house in Jersey at the same time trying to find a house in Florida. Then I thought, we have what's basically a 400 square foot apartment on wheels. Why not ship it to a nice RV park in Florida, and when the house in Jersey sells, head south, and use the trailer as a base camp to house hunt down there. And if we like the campground, leave it there for weekends. Gotta think that's less stressful, as long as the trailer doesn't wind up as a pile of splinters alongside Rt 81.
Or, if you can move it and it survives, you can use it as a snowbird option. That's our current plan, but if it gets much colder in the winter, then it might be a permanent relocation.
Isn't that always the way. Hope she gets the luggag back quickly or finds some cheap alternatives.
I saw that offered somewhere. That is a good deal. Even better if I could add a week DVC stay in between.
AirGoofy
DIS Dad#341
- Joined
- Jul 24, 2009
Such a familiar story. Young children playing youth sports compared to their parents and families have them playing MLB already. You just hope somehow a kid could hit a line drive at her head, not hard enough to cause any damage, but just knock her off the high horse. You know how many soccer parents here have their children playing in the Olympics on US National team?
It's sad that many have decided not to let kids be kids anymore. Hang in there. And at least, your DS wasn't any the wiser.
pkondz
Brace yourself for immediate disintegration
- Joined
- Mar 9, 2007
That sucks Andy. Too bad you don't have the authority. Sounds like the person who does, won't exercise it.
I don't get parents who are so competitive with little kids!
The kids don't care at that age.
I remember when I was that age (5). When the (hockey) season was over, each player on the team got a little trophy.
I had no idea if that was normal or not, but I was happy I got one.
It was only years later when I took a really good look at it.
We were division champs!
I don't even remember winning any games.
I don't get parents who are so competitive with little kids!
The kids don't care at that age.
I remember when I was that age (5). When the (hockey) season was over, each player on the team got a little trophy.
I had no idea if that was normal or not, but I was happy I got one.
It was only years later when I took a really good look at it.
We were division champs!
I don't even remember winning any games.
afwdwfan
DIS Dad #460
- Joined
- Apr 23, 2010
It is ridiculous. I don't know what they want us to teach them. I mean eye on the ball, catch, throw and run covers it for most of our kids. We're not quite ready for the hit and run yet.
And I don't mean to pick on her son. He's a good player and seems like a great kid. I don't know how given what he's surrounded by. But he's just not the next Babe Ruth.
I remember playing that age too @pkondz . I remember playing but have no idea how many games we won or lost. There's plenty of time for that later on. Yes, the kids know the score and want to win every game. And I think that's great. But they also don't dwell on it and just want to have fun.
And I don't mean to pick on her son. He's a good player and seems like a great kid. I don't know how given what he's surrounded by. But he's just not the next Babe Ruth.
I remember playing that age too @pkondz . I remember playing but have no idea how many games we won or lost. There's plenty of time for that later on. Yes, the kids know the score and want to win every game. And I think that's great. But they also don't dwell on it and just want to have fun.
Captain_Oblivious
DIS Dad #257, Galactic Salad Dodger
- Joined
- Nov 10, 2008
I think I see the problem. This is 4, 5, and 6 year olds. It's not about winning at that age. It's about fundamentals. At that age, they're going to miss just about every play--being in the wrong position, bobbling the ball, missing a catch, not covering a base, etc. High-fiving the kid who covered 3rd base correctly is exactly how it should be done--you reward them for getting the fundamentals right. If they actually make a play, it's gravy.
That ultra-competitive attitude has no place here. Let them learn the game first, and then you can worry about winning in a couple of years.
I'm sure she demands perfection in everything she does as well.
I think I see the other problem.
declansdad
DIS Dad #639 New Brunswick, Canada
- Joined
- Apr 14, 2004
Ok. Need to vent. I'm sitting here fuming right now and I figured this is a safe place to just air it out.
DS had a baseball game this evening and I'm an assistant coach. It is a 4, 5 & 6 year old league. We have 12 players. 3 6 year olds, 5 4 year olds and the rest are 5. Only 2 of our 5 year olds have ever played before. We're the most inexperienced team in the league and 0 - 6. But the kids are having fun and getting better every game. We were 1 out away from a tie tonight.
Well, our head coach is coaching another team as well, so as far as game time goes I've been setting lineups and handling the details for the past few games.
We try to be positive with the kids. We're trying to teach the little things. Field the ball and throw to first. Occasionally, depending who is playing at a particular position and their comprehension and skill level we might make them aware of plays at second or third and try to make plays there. But for a lot of them we just have to focus on fundamentals and doing the little things.
We switch the batting order around every game and rotate defensive positions every inning. We don't hide the tiny 4 year old who just wants to dig in the dirt in right field. How else will he learn the game? The best player in the team isn't pitchers helper every inning either. We have 2 pitcher helpers and play 3 inning games, so every inning one of the 6 year olds is always there, one is on first and the other plays a shallow OF/IF utility position behind 2nd. We feel lilt that gives us the best skill sets distributed around the field in key places, yet we can still rotate players and let everyone play pitchers helper from time to time.
Well... we have a dugout mom. Her son is one of the 6 year olds. The third best 6 year old on the team if you care to know...
I keep book and coach the base next to the dugout and she gets a line up card and makes sure the on deck batter is getting ready. Well the past couple of games that family has been getting loud. Tonight, she invited herself out onto the field to help coach.
She planted herself between SS and 3B. Right in the baseline. And yelled at the players nonstop.
None of the coaches yell. So we apparently suck and don't know what we're doing. Yes, kids play in the dirt. Yelling has never kept one from digging and never will. I had to comfort a crying second baseman tonight after he missed a grounder because he was playing in the dirt. I always just try to talk to them in an upbeat way and get them to pay attention by asking if they want to get hit in the butt with a baseball. That usually works for at least the next few pitches.
Tonight, I finally got one of the younger kids to cover 3rd base the way he was supposed to. I never yelled at him to get that to happen. But I did make a big deal of it and run across the field to give him a high five when he did it right. There wasn't even a play there but he did what I asked! Anyway that how I look at it with this age group. It is about just learning the game, and more importantly having fun. If we yell at them about things they don't understand, they'll never enjoy the game.
Well. Tonight one of the 6 year olds said he didn't want to play first. Ok. I put him at short his inning and DS played first. DS is 5. He hadn't played first before. But he spent 2 innings in the OF and was due to play an inning in the infield so I gave him a chance. And DS is typically one of the better fielding 5 year olds we have.
A ball was hit down the line. He bobbled it and didn't make the play. Dugout mom's mom? Mother in law? Sitting in the stands goes ballistic. DW yells at her for yelling at a 5 year old and leaves in tears.
Later on, i catch dugout mom trying to teach DS how to swing a bat in the on deck circle. She and I then had words. Yes, what she was teaching him was technically correct. But well beyond his level. I'm strictly just trying to get a consistent swing while keeping his eyes on the ball. Once we master that, then we can work on the footwork. That is all I need him to do is pull his head because he's over striding all of a sudden.
Anyway... I find out after the game that a parent complained to the league that our coaches don't teach the players everything they need to know and we don't put the right players in the right positions to win. Clearly, I know where that came from. I'm just fed up.
No real reason for this post other than to vent because there's no way I can go to sleep yet because I'm so pissed.
Our head coach just flat out checked out this evening and now I know why. He wanted to just give her the book if she doesn't like how we do it. But now I'm kind of stuck in the middle. He's the only one who is technically listed as coach in the league so she really has as much right to be out there as I do. He clearly is just over it and unwilling to confront her. He spent the whole game tonight standing next to the fence talking to another player's dad. I just want her out of there. And if I had the authority I'd gladly tell her. Kids this age don't need the negativity. My patience is wearing thin and I'm afraid it could get ugly next game.
At least DS had no clue about any of it. Didn't hear grandma yell at him. As far as he's concerned, he went 3 for 3, scored 3 runs and is happily sound asleep. And that's how it should be.
Sorry you have to deal with that Andy. That mother is being an *** and needs to be told to sit down and shut up. I see this all the time in my job and I wish I could just tell these parents they are so wrong and to sit down and leave the coaching to people who understand that at this age and for a few more years it is about teaching and developing the skills and not winning at any cost. I do think the only way to stop these parents is for other parents to stand up to them.
GoofyIsAsGoofyDoes
If it’s still here tomorrow… I may ignore it again
- Joined
- Jan 20, 2007
'Morning all...
Thanks for the heads up.
It comes with too many restrictions, for me to take advantage of at the moment, but I appreciate you keeping us in mind with the info.
If I'm not mistaken...
The one on the right there looks a whole lot like sewage.
Would that happen be a delicacy out that way?
Thanks, and yep...
I'd rather be back on the ship (bit of a no brainier there).
Hope y'all have a great sailing as well.
I will say that the Fantasy seemed just a bit rolly-polly this outing.
You might say that Minnie had some extra wiggle in her step.
Didn't bother us none, but it was noticeable and a few folks were a bit put out by it.
Might have been heavy currents, but I also head at least one account of a misbehaving stabilizer.
Can't substantiate that one yet, but if it were true that wont get fixed until the next dry docking.
You are the one in the right here.
but that fact ain't gonn'a help none.
Without the backing of someone with actual power and a number of other parents behind 'em
What you've got here is a no win situation.
Very unfortunate.
"It's psychotic!"
But congrats are still in order. New horizons await.
Besides, any foolishness that results in the added enjoyment of a fine slab of cow and a hearty beer can't be all bad.
Thanks for the heads up.
It comes with too many restrictions, for me to take advantage of at the moment, but I appreciate you keeping us in mind with the info.
The kid's dinner tonight. Don't ask me what it is, I don't want to know.
If I'm not mistaken...
The one on the right there looks a whole lot like sewage.
Would that happen be a delicacy out that way?
Thanks, and yep...
I'd rather be back on the ship (bit of a no brainier there).
Hope y'all have a great sailing as well.
I will say that the Fantasy seemed just a bit rolly-polly this outing.
You might say that Minnie had some extra wiggle in her step.
Didn't bother us none, but it was noticeable and a few folks were a bit put out by it.
Might have been heavy currents, but I also head at least one account of a misbehaving stabilizer.
Can't substantiate that one yet, but if it were true that wont get fixed until the next dry docking.
Ok. Need to vent. I'm sitting here fuming right now and I figured this is a safe place to just air it out.
DS had a baseball game this evening and I'm an assistant coach. It is a 4, 5 & 6 year old league. We have 12 players. 3 6 year olds, 5 4 year olds and the rest are 5. Only 2 of our 5 year olds have ever played before. We're the most inexperienced team in the league and 0 - 6. But the kids are having fun and getting better every game. We were 1 out away from a tie tonight.
Well, our head coach is coaching another team as well, so as far as game time goes I've been setting lineups and handling the details for the past few games.
We try to be positive with the kids. We're trying to teach the little things. Field the ball and throw to first. Occasionally, depending who is playing at a particular position and their comprehension and skill level we might make them aware of plays at second or third and try to make plays there. But for a lot of them we just have to focus on fundamentals and doing the little things.
We switch the batting order around every game and rotate defensive positions every inning. We don't hide the tiny 4 year old who just wants to dig in the dirt in right field. How else will he learn the game? The best player in the team isn't pitchers helper every inning either. We have 2 pitcher helpers and play 3 inning games, so every inning one of the 6 year olds is always there, one is on first and the other plays a shallow OF/IF utility position behind 2nd. We feel lilt that gives us the best skill sets distributed around the field in key places, yet we can still rotate players and let everyone play pitchers helper from time to time.
Well... we have a dugout mom. Her son is one of the 6 year olds. The third best 6 year old on the team if you care to know...
I keep book and coach the base next to the dugout and she gets a line up card and makes sure the on deck batter is getting ready. Well the past couple of games that family has been getting loud. Tonight, she invited herself out onto the field to help coach.
She planted herself between SS and 3B. Right in the baseline. And yelled at the players nonstop.
None of the coaches yell. So we apparently suck and don't know what we're doing. Yes, kids play in the dirt. Yelling has never kept one from digging and never will. I had to comfort a crying second baseman tonight after he missed a grounder because he was playing in the dirt. I always just try to talk to them in an upbeat way and get them to pay attention by asking if they want to get hit in the butt with a baseball. That usually works for at least the next few pitches.
Tonight, I finally got one of the younger kids to cover 3rd base the way he was supposed to. I never yelled at him to get that to happen. But I did make a big deal of it and run across the field to give him a high five when he did it right. There wasn't even a play there but he did what I asked! Anyway that how I look at it with this age group. It is about just learning the game, and more importantly having fun. If we yell at them about things they don't understand, they'll never enjoy the game.
Well. Tonight one of the 6 year olds said he didn't want to play first. Ok. I put him at short his inning and DS played first. DS is 5. He hadn't played first before. But he spent 2 innings in the OF and was due to play an inning in the infield so I gave him a chance. And DS is typically one of the better fielding 5 year olds we have.
A ball was hit down the line. He bobbled it and didn't make the play. Dugout mom's mom? Mother in law? Sitting in the stands goes ballistic. DW yells at her for yelling at a 5 year old and leaves in tears.
Later on, i catch dugout mom trying to teach DS how to swing a bat in the on deck circle. She and I then had words. Yes, what she was teaching him was technically correct. But well beyond his level. I'm strictly just trying to get a consistent swing while keeping his eyes on the ball. Once we master that, then we can work on the footwork. That is all I need him to do is pull his head because he's over striding all of a sudden.
Anyway... I find out after the game that a parent complained to the league that our coaches don't teach the players everything they need to know and we don't put the right players in the right positions to win. Clearly, I know where that came from. I'm just fed up.
No real reason for this post other than to vent because there's no way I can go to sleep yet because I'm so pissed.
Our head coach just flat out checked out this evening and now I know why. He wanted to just give her the book if she doesn't like how we do it. But now I'm kind of stuck in the middle. He's the only one who is technically listed as coach in the league so she really has as much right to be out there as I do. He clearly is just over it and unwilling to confront her. He spent the whole game tonight standing next to the fence talking to another player's dad. I just want her out of there. And if I had the authority I'd gladly tell her. Kids this age don't need the negativity. My patience is wearing thin and I'm afraid it could get ugly next game.
At least DS had no clue about any of it. Didn't hear grandma yell at him. As far as he's concerned, he went 3 for 3, scored 3 runs and is happily sound asleep. And that's how it should be.
You are the one in the right here.
but that fact ain't gonn'a help none.
Without the backing of someone with actual power and a number of other parents behind 'em
What you've got here is a no win situation.
Very unfortunate.
Evening all. Youngest had 5th grade graduation tonight. Celebrating the mundane, but she does move to a new middle school. Still........
"It's psychotic!"
But congrats are still in order. New horizons await.
Besides, any foolishness that results in the added enjoyment of a fine slab of cow and a hearty beer can't be all bad.
afwdwfan
DIS Dad #460
- Joined
- Apr 23, 2010
Thanks for the support guys. I really want to just tell her off, but really, if nobody else wants to say anything I just feel almost like it will be pointless and cause more issues. Truthfully though, on the field I don't even hear what is coming from the stands, nor do I care. But the fact that DW was so mad and shaken up by it is really what had me seeing red last night. There's really no need for yelling put downs at kids that age trying to play a game. It is just absurd and uncalled for.
Captain_Oblivious
DIS Dad #257, Galactic Salad Dodger
- Joined
- Nov 10, 2008
Welcome home Rob! Hope you had a great time.
Faulty stabilizer...yeah, can't say I would have enjoyed that much.
cj9200
DIS Dad #412
- Joined
- Dec 22, 2006
Andy, you are right and she is wrong, plain and simple. Been there. No simple solution especially if the head coach doesn't want to get involved. I actually had an umpire stop the game and talk to the parent to tell them to shut up or leave. Good luck the rest of the year and keep the same attitude. Hope the kids continue to have fun and learn to love the game. I feel your pain.
Rob, she said it was some kind of kale like thing. She said it was good but what does she know, she likes Tofu.
The bag situation may be resolved. They said it is going to be delivered on a flight that arrives at 7 am her time and she needs to go to the airport to pick them up. Hope it happens. Found one thing out. Despite the flight was booked at AA and the flight number has an AA number, they disown any issue with bags. When I called them, they basically told me, "We checked it in at Hong Kong so it is Cathay Pacific's problem." Interesting start of the trip.
Rob, she said it was some kind of kale like thing. She said it was good but what does she know, she likes Tofu.
The bag situation may be resolved. They said it is going to be delivered on a flight that arrives at 7 am her time and she needs to go to the airport to pick them up. Hope it happens. Found one thing out. Despite the flight was booked at AA and the flight number has an AA number, they disown any issue with bags. When I called them, they basically told me, "We checked it in at Hong Kong so it is Cathay Pacific's problem." Interesting start of the trip.
budamacdvcr
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Congrats Norm on DD's graduation / heading to Middle School.
Congrats Norm on DD's graduation / heading to Middle School.
Sorry to hear, but not surprised as some folks just don't get it. I would not have had the patience you displayed so nicely done by you on that point. Hang in there and glad to see DS is not bothered by a frustrated, ex, wanna be jock momaOk. Need to vent. I'm sitting here fuming right now and I figured this is a safe place to just air it out.
DS had a baseball game this evening and I'm an assistant coach. It is a 4, 5 & 6 year old league. We have 12 players. 3 6 year olds, 5 4 year olds and the rest are 5. Only 2 of our 5 year olds have ever played before. We're the most inexperienced team in the league and 0 - 6. But the kids are having fun and getting better every game. We were 1 out away from a tie tonight.
Well, our head coach is coaching another team as well, so as far as game time goes I've been setting lineups and handling the details for the past few games.
We try to be positive with the kids. We're trying to teach the little things. Field the ball and throw to first. Occasionally, depending who is playing at a particular position and their comprehension and skill level we might make them aware of plays at second or third and try to make plays there. But for a lot of them we just have to focus on fundamentals and doing the little things.
We switch the batting order around every game and rotate defensive positions every inning. We don't hide the tiny 4 year old who just wants to dig in the dirt in right field. How else will he learn the game? The best player in the team isn't pitchers helper every inning either. We have 2 pitcher helpers and play 3 inning games, so every inning one of the 6 year olds is always there, one is on first and the other plays a shallow OF/IF utility position behind 2nd. We feel lilt that gives us the best skill sets distributed around the field in key places, yet we can still rotate players and let everyone play pitchers helper from time to time.
Well... we have a dugout mom. Her son is one of the 6 year olds. The third best 6 year old on the team if you care to know...
I keep book and coach the base next to the dugout and she gets a line up card and makes sure the on deck batter is getting ready. Well the past couple of games that family has been getting loud. Tonight, she invited herself out onto the field to help coach.
She planted herself between SS and 3B. Right in the baseline. And yelled at the players nonstop.
None of the coaches yell. So we apparently suck and don't know what we're doing. Yes, kids play in the dirt. Yelling has never kept one from digging and never will. I had to comfort a crying second baseman tonight after he missed a grounder because he was playing in the dirt. I always just try to talk to them in an upbeat way and get them to pay attention by asking if they want to get hit in the butt with a baseball. That usually works for at least the next few pitches.
Tonight, I finally got one of the younger kids to cover 3rd base the way he was supposed to. I never yelled at him to get that to happen. But I did make a big deal of it and run across the field to give him a high five when he did it right. There wasn't even a play there but he did what I asked! Anyway that how I look at it with this age group. It is about just learning the game, and more importantly having fun. If we yell at them about things they don't understand, they'll never enjoy the game.
Well. Tonight one of the 6 year olds said he didn't want to play first. Ok. I put him at short his inning and DS played first. DS is 5. He hadn't played first before. But he spent 2 innings in the OF and was due to play an inning in the infield so I gave him a chance. And DS is typically one of the better fielding 5 year olds we have.
A ball was hit down the line. He bobbled it and didn't make the play. Dugout mom's mom? Mother in law? Sitting in the stands goes ballistic. DW yells at her for yelling at a 5 year old and leaves in tears.
Later on, i catch dugout mom trying to teach DS how to swing a bat in the on deck circle. She and I then had words. Yes, what she was teaching him was technically correct. But well beyond his level. I'm strictly just trying to get a consistent swing while keeping his eyes on the ball. Once we master that, then we can work on the footwork. That is all I need him to do is pull his head because he's over striding all of a sudden.
Anyway... I find out after the game that a parent complained to the league that our coaches don't teach the players everything they need to know and we don't put the right players in the right positions to win. Clearly, I know where that came from. I'm just fed up.
No real reason for this post other than to vent because there's no way I can go to sleep yet because I'm so pissed.
Our head coach just flat out checked out this evening and now I know why. He wanted to just give her the book if she doesn't like how we do it. But now I'm kind of stuck in the middle. He's the only one who is technically listed as coach in the league so she really has as much right to be out there as I do. He clearly is just over it and unwilling to confront her. He spent the whole game tonight standing next to the fence talking to another player's dad. I just want her out of there. And if I had the authority I'd gladly tell her. Kids this age don't need the negativity. My patience is wearing thin and I'm afraid it could get ugly next game.
At least DS had no clue about any of it. Didn't hear grandma yell at him. As far as he's concerned, he went 3 for 3, scored 3 runs and is happily sound asleep. And that's how it should be.
Hope that stabilizer, if an issue, gets fixed as I do not think a dry dock date for the Fantasy is even scheduled. Dream hits dry dock this year so would assume that Fantasy is would be targeted.
afwdwfan
DIS Dad #460
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pkondz
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It's not only absurd, it's ignorant.
What kind of a jerk yells at little kids?
"All right Timmy. You're going to play baseball this summer. I played it when I was five, too!"
"Oh, boy! I can't wait to have fun!"
"Fun? Fun?!?!? This isn't fun. This is serious! If you don't have at least a 250 batting record I'm kicking you out of the house. And every time you make an error, you don't get supper."
Wow. What great customer service.Hopefully the bag situation will get sorted out.
declansdad
DIS Dad #639 New Brunswick, Canada
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Something for you to share with your dugout mom Andy.
http://changingthegameproject.com/the-tipping-point-in-youth-sports/
http://changingthegameproject.com/the-tipping-point-in-youth-sports/
afwdwfan
DIS Dad #460
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Wow... so true. But since when do 4, 5 & 6 year olds reach that tipping point status??? I feel sorry for her kids going forward.
Honestly though, they don't seem to yell at him and ride him too hard at games. They just yell at everyone else's kids.
Maybe some of these just need to happen to be laying around on the bleachers at our game on Saturday...
Honestly though, they don't seem to yell at him and ride him too hard at games. They just yell at everyone else's kids.
Maybe some of these just need to happen to be laying around on the bleachers at our game on Saturday...
declansdad
DIS Dad #639 New Brunswick, Canada
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Wow... so true. But since when do 4, 5 & 6 year olds reach that tipping point status??? I feel sorry for her kids going forward.
Honestly though, they don't seem to yell at him and ride him too hard at games. They just yell at everyone else's kids.
Maybe some of these just need to happen to be laying around on the bleachers at our game on Saturday...
Here is another document you can leave laying around, open to page 22 would be best. http://www.baseball.ca/files/ltad.pdf
Hope that it a Canadian paper on strategies for long term athlete development does bother you. LTAD is a universally accepted concept though and the age group you are talking about fall in the Active Start phase that focuses on fundamental movement skills and play.
afwdwfan
DIS Dad #460
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Good information Darcy. Thanks. Makes me feel a heck of a lot better about what we're doing. We're really hitting the benchmarks that I saw listed in there for the age groups we're working with. She is definitely trying to get way too advanced for the level of these kids.
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