Next resort on the renovation list
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As in DVC? Room refurb? What are you asking?
Wilderness lodge has filed permits for a refurb to existing rooms. This is most likely for conversion to DVC.
I believe boardwalk just finished a refurb as well as yacht and beach but am not sure about their villas being returned.
Wilderness first, beach club next also depending how well poly sells which is looking very good more at the poly.
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The Beach Club is currently being rehabbed. The concierge rooms on the fifth floor have been completed. The Beach Club Villas are scheduled for rehab starting in August. The Yacht Club will be rehabbed whenever the BC is completed.
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lockedoutlogic
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If I had to guess:
50% conversion of existing wilderness lodge ...perhaps more
Conversion of 2 out buildings at GF
Construction of new large wing at Polynesian near site of TTC...the pieces are already being moved around there.
Conversion of beach or yacht club inventory - likely beach to avoid additional pennies of investment.
That leaves possibility of further retrofits at animal kingdom, boardwalk, and the contemporary without major alteration of existing footprints to hold in reserve.
It's not a stretch to think that 75% of the "deluxe" inventory could one day be DVC...as long as they sell.
Roll the dice at the Grand and I'll bet we land on Boca Chica and Big Pine Key buildings.
I agree. I haven't heard much about conversion at AKL but beach club, poly, Gf, CR all on the list for sure. I also mentioned the possibility of a moderate building getting DVC that's been floating around as well.
lockedoutlogic
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Don't think we'll see moderates ...it sends the "wrong message"
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ParkHoppers
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Saying WL is converting some existing rooms to DVC how will this work. Will Disney sell more points for VWL? I,m thinking they have to. Will they extend the 2042 contract end date to help sell these new points? The newer DVC resort contracts end 2060 or later. Won,t Disney have to extend VWL to make buying there more appealing? Thoughts?
lockedoutlogic
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New rooms, new points...
That's how the whole system works. Every point - in essence - is tied to a specifics unit. Most people with a DVC contract own about a "weeks worth" of points at a specific "unit"...it's in the contract. Mine is 27A...whatever that is.
As far as the expiration dates...they'll do extensions like they did at OKW a few years ago...
And what doesn't get pushed out - hypothetically - get resold when the time comes.
And that won't be an issue. DVC struggled mightily for about the first 10 years...the contracts didnt move much. Ever since - they have done pretty much whatever they damn well please...doubling the price, shifting the points all around, building "experiments" like the Polynesian bungalows that work out to be like $1000 a night even "discounted"...
As long as its in Orlando, there doesn't seem to be a limit to what can be done. Oahu is apparently not as easy sell. They should have built a castle there first
That's how the whole system works. Every point - in essence - is tied to a specifics unit. Most people with a DVC contract own about a "weeks worth" of points at a specific "unit"...it's in the contract. Mine is 27A...whatever that is.
As far as the expiration dates...they'll do extensions like they did at OKW a few years ago...
And what doesn't get pushed out - hypothetically - get resold when the time comes.
And that won't be an issue. DVC struggled mightily for about the first 10 years...the contracts didnt move much. Ever since - they have done pretty much whatever they damn well please...doubling the price, shifting the points all around, building "experiments" like the Polynesian bungalows that work out to be like $1000 a night even "discounted"...
As long as its in Orlando, there doesn't seem to be a limit to what can be done. Oahu is apparently not as easy sell. They should have built a castle there first
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That is a tough one--- Can they sell new contracts with a different end date? I don't think they are happy with the OKW situation--- Maybe the new conversions will be significant enough (and if they include a new building) to constitute a VWL 2? --- WLV&B?---- It will be interesting to see unfold.
lockedoutlogic
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I used to know...
But the base rate was $329 then...and the property had more even occupancy across the board. The rumors of 50% at wilderness lodge represents a level of fluctuation that I will tell you is 100% "not ok" behind the facades. Hence DVC conversion...it's honestly shocking it hasnt happened already.
As far as GF goes...I don't think it's about even how many rooms are filled at all. Even if they convert rooms that are typically already occupied - they reduce the supply and as
Microeconomics tells us, increase the demand and the price of what's left over. No
Lose situation in reality.
DVC units have advantages beyond the upfront costs and the maintenance fees...notably the steep decline in overhead/housekeeping costs. And with the point costs barreling towards $200 per point...they have tweaked,squeezed,push the margins way out...and continue to do so. Like the dining prices since the great dining plan - less cost/quality, higher prices.
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