BLT Studio for May 2016 - 11 mo or 7 mo booking?

keepswimming76 · Apr 30, 2015

Good afternoon,

We are interested in booking a studio at BLT, preferably standard view or lake view. Our dates are for 8 nights the week leading up to Memorial Day weekend. We've never been to Disney that time of the year so I'm unsure of how in demand DVC rooms are at that time. We're going to try to rent points.

I'm just curious if we should pay extra to try to book at 11 months, or if we would be okay to wait until 7 months. I would really hate to have pay the extra money at 11 months if there is typically good availability that time of the year. But I also have my heart set on staying at BLT for this trip.

Any help is very much appreciated!

disneynutz · Apr 30, 2015

If I really wanted a certain category, I would just pay the money to guarantee that I get what I want.

If I tell you that you can wait until 7 months and it isn't available will you be upset?

:earsboy:

Bill

Pirate Granny · Apr 30, 2015

Extra money??? really the points are the same cost to rent at 11 months or 7 months. And you run the risk of not getting what you want. Standard rooms go fast, if that's what you like; be prepared to have a rental lined up for your 11 month date!

rlovew · Apr 30, 2015

Pirate Granny said:
Extra money??? really the points are the same cost to rent at 11 months or 7 months. And you run the risk of not getting what you want. Standard rooms go fast, if that's what you like; be prepared to have a rental lined up for your 11 month date!

Certain resorts are now higher for the 11 month window from the DVC rental services- it is a surcharge of $2-3 a point so that the companies can pay enough to get owners to rent through them.

If you want standard view then you need to rent at 11 months out.

Pirate Granny · Apr 30, 2015

Understood, but certain resorts will have the premium regardless if 11 months or 7 months.

keepswimming76 · Apr 30, 2015

I appreciate the feedback! We'll have to aim for 11 mo then.

DebbieB · Apr 30, 2015

Pirate Granny said:
Understood, but certain resorts will have the premium regardless if 11 months or 7 months.

https://www.dvcrequest.com/faq.asp#price-per-point

A "Home Resort Booking Premium" of $2.00 per point will be added to the cost of any reservation that is secured more than 7 months in advance of the arrival date at the following selected resorts: Bay Lake Tower At Disney's Contemporary Resort, Disney's Beach Club Villas, Disney's Boardwalk Villas, The Villas At Disney's Wilderness Lodge, The Villas at Disney's Grand Floridian Hotel, The Villas at Disney's Grand Californian Hotel and Disney's Aulani Resort and Spa. David’s Vacation Club Rentals is implementing the "Home Resort Booking Premium" on November 1, 2014. David’s Vacation Club Rentals is excited to continue to pass along the savings to our guests while offering a fair market value for member's points. There is NO "Home Resort Booking Premium" for any resort where the reservation is secured less than 7 months in advance of the arrival date. The "Home Resort Premium" will automatically be included in our cost calculator and will not be in addition to the displayed amounts. My cancellation policy is located here..

Lil' Grumpy · May 1, 2015

this "bugs" me, liked a furry bunny. we're blt owner . we are dvc. it is my viewpoint that renting needs
better restrictions to improve owners chances not non/owners. if you want to stay @ dvc then buy
in. these things are easily enacted & enforceable & because that fact is true..there is no excuse
for dvc not too. for ex., if you don't own points @ blt, then you should never be allowed to
rent there. so unless it is in the "owner" name than the revs. should be turned away @ check in.
(easily done.) thus leaving the room/s for other owners to used- instead a non/member. when we
purchased- it wasn't even "brought up"--that we could our points @ any other resorts. and
as time pass, and so many owners having trouble with getting revs for themselves...
reducing renting is the first step. while many here pointed out, renting isn't against
dvc... but this abuse should be-/ because it is hurting other owners/liked ssr owners getting their
revs..& this "type" of transaction was never part of the original resort agreement.

it is like poster "bill" stated..dvc isn't exclusive. i know there are very few owners when we
go. dvc needs reminding who they are working for....& more focus on quality assurance. ( some
of the reasons we brought dvc..had to do with quality issues. it is shocking to read where
the direction dvc are heading,per the old timers. ) . and while i am no "timeshares expert " ,
it is self evident --"tons" of management tweaking that would redirect the dvc claims/
promises back to dvc owners, where they belong.

i think/believe there is a need for all dvc owners have a separate branch made up by "real"
dvc owners, to present input for quality improvements. a neutral group,free from any other
outside timeshare owners. let's "see" if we can do dvc better?! know that we can!

Minniesgal · May 1, 2015

Pirate Granny said:
Understood, but certain resorts will have the premium regardless if 11 months or 7 months.

No through David's you pay a premium to book before 7 months.

CarolMN · May 1, 2015

Lil' Grumpy said:
this "bugs" me, liked a furry bunny. we're blt owner . we are dvc. it is my viewpoint that renting needs
better restrictions to improve owners chances not non/owners. if you want to stay @ dvc then buy
in. these things are easily enacted & enforceable & because that fact is true..there is no excuse
for dvc not too. for ex., if you don't own points @ blt, then you should never be allowed to
rent there. so unless it is in the "owner" name than the revs. should be turned away @ check in.
(easily done.) thus leaving the room/s for other owners to used- instead a non/member. when we
purchased- it wasn't even "brought up"--that we could our points @ any other resorts. and
as time pass, and so many owners having trouble with getting revs for themselves...
reducing renting is the first step. while many here pointed out, renting isn't against
dvc... but this abuse should be-/ because it is hurting other owners/liked ssr owners getting their
revs..& this "type" of transaction was never part of the original resort agreement.......(snip)........

Your frustration is with the owners who choose to rent THEIR points, not those who take advantage of their offers.

Every BLT owner has the exact same OPPORTUNITY to reserve space at BLT - the exact same booking rules apply to those owners who use their points to stay as apply to those who choose to rent.

BLT owners have a four month booking priority period. Their rights to use their points trump non-owners' desire to stay there by booking 0-7 months prior to arrival. If an owner doesn't take advantage of the priority period for whatever reason, that's on him, not the owners who rent.

drusba · May 1, 2015

keepswimming76, BLT lake view was open at 7 months out for the time you want for the last 3 years. If you want standard view, you need to book 11 months out.

supersnoop · May 1, 2015

Lil' Grumpy said:
i think/believe there is a need for all dvc owners have a separate branch made up by "real"
dvc owners, to present input for quality improvements. a neutral group,free from any other
outside timeshare owners. let's "see" if we can do dvc better?! know that we can!

I'm a BLT owner. Why shouldn't I be able to rent out my points at 11 months? On what basis do you think you should have any advantage or restrictions on me?

freediverdude · May 1, 2015

I know this opinion won't be popular with some owners, and I'm a new owner, but from what I've seen so far, I think SSR is the main problem. I think it was a mistake for Disney to build a humongous resort, way bigger than most of the others, in an undesirable location, so that you've got tons of people buying in there and then not wanting to stay there (OKW was the original and a bit different in that people who purchased there did want to stay there). This puts enormous pressure on the monorail and Epcot resorts for reservations. I could probably get a studio at SSR for next week, lol. If they had built SSR, say for example, where the Swan and Dolphin are, then I feel we wouldn't be having this conversation (I know, I know, not possible because of that stupid lease deal Eisner made, but just for example).

TagsMissy · May 1, 2015

I'm a BLT owner and while I've never rented publicly I've more than happily booked villas a 11 months for my friends to enjoy the resort! I see no problems at all with it. They are my points that I'm eligible as an owner too book a villa at 11 months. Whether I am in the villa or my friends are makes no iota of difference. All that matters are that my points that I own at BLT are used.

DebbieB · May 1, 2015

supersnoop said:
I'm a BLT owner. Why shouldn't I be able to rent out my points at 11 months? On what basis do you think you should have any advantage or restrictions on me?

I agree. You bought the points and are paying the dues. You should be able to do as you please with your points.

freediverdude said:
I know this opinion won't be popular with some owners, and I'm a new owner, but from what I've seen so far, I think SSR is the main problem. I think it was a mistake for Disney to build a humongous resort, way bigger than most of the others, in an undesirable location, so that you've got tons of people buying in there and then not wanting to stay there (OKW was the original and a bit different in that people who purchased there did want to stay there). This puts enormous pressure on the monorail and Epcot resorts for reservations. I could probably get a studio at SSR for next week, lol. If they had built SSR, say for example, where the Swan and Dolphin are, then I feel we wouldn't be having this conversation (I know, I know, not possible because of that stupid lease deal Eisner made, but just for example).

I totally agree. Plus they sold it that way, buy here and then switch at 7 months. I remember a new SSR owner posted that their guide told them they would have no problem booking BCV at 7 months for October. She was furious that she could not get a reservation and the waitlist never came through. They built it too big just to make more money on the backs of the existing resorts.

Lil' Grumpy · May 2, 2015

don't think you process my observations correctly....unless you are an owner
@ another resort instead of dvc...then plez express your "rationalizations" for
using ssr ( i.e.) points- so a renter can have a blt room when another owner
was trying for the same time frame? but since you own @ blt then qthing i posted-
had nothing to do with you. ( unless you are also renting ssr points?)

i do wonder..are you direct vs resales & own
other timeshares. because when i read responses here, these are the
"types" of factors effecting-- what each owner is seeking from dvc.

oh, there are other factors that divide owners....these "differences" - my reasoning
that dvc should be using them together as a tool-- to determine the best ways to set up
their management guidelines. the current lack of structure is a poor excuse for
wasting resources & money. and since dvc recover some of their losses thru
raising my dues...got my attention. & it is an ethical issue.

and like the previous "rci reference", i never read a good reason..for some of these observations.
( some rci traders are doing 5/6 a year...& to me, they are likely renting some of them
out... so i am wondering why would dvc permit any rci trader more than one?!)- esp.
since there are something liked 600 + rci locations & x each via the number of owners-/-
to the dvc resorts made these things very, very self evident. & it also explained those
trying to "protect their turf" & why they are constantly using "distractions" in their
responses.

not sure why you felt "frustration" was my issue- as you know...we are blt owners & therefore, the
post did not apply to me personally. my observations came from reading recently
how many cannot switch their resort to blt @ 7 months. nothing against any renter, renting
but as an owner ...i believe by making this little restriction...will make more
blt rooms available ..to all dvc owners....like ssr, & all the rest. actually i have
no issue with renters/renting..except the way dvc is not managing it the way
it should be...this dvc business is wasting a ton of money.

fyi~ i have been studying dvc ever since we joined....& these are just 2 little things that
could be done . it's too bad that owners have no input on improving this system. the
solutions are numerous & produced major increase in profits , reduced costs/dues &
increase ownership happiness...that would increase sales.

TagsMissy · May 3, 2015

supersnoop · May 3, 2015

TagsMissy said:
Huh?

I think "Lil' Grumpy" is an understatement.

Lil' Grumpy said:
don't think you process my observations correctly....unless you are an owner
@ another resort instead of dvc...then plez express your "rationalizations" for
using ssr ( i.e.) points- so a renter can have a blt room when another owner
was trying for the same time frame? but since you own @ blt then qthing i posted-
had nothing to do with you. ( unless you are also renting ssr points?)

So, you're saying that renting should be restricted to your home resort? Since I own at BLT, what happens if I need to rent out my points but BLT is all booked up? Because, after 7 months, it will be. Am I just out of luck? I shouldn't be allowed to rent an SSR reservation with my BLT points? At seven months, almost everything is going to be booked up. You're restriction would only serve to help some members late in the booking process, while the current method treats all members fairly.

freediverdude · May 4, 2015

DebbieB said:
I agree. You bought the points and are paying the dues. You should be able to do as you please with your points.

I totally agree. Plus they sold it that way, buy here and then switch at 7 months. I remember a new SSR owner posted that their guide told them they would have no problem booking BCV at 7 months for October. She was furious that she could not get a reservation and the waitlist never came through. They built it too big just to make more money on the backs of the existing resorts.

Thank you, at least I'm not alone in that thought! I'm not sure how they would fix it at this point though without a huge backlash. Maybe it's just going to take some time, and making more of the hotel rooms in the desirable locations into DVC units to even things out, but I don't know.

disneynutz · May 4, 2015

freediverdude said:
I know this opinion won't be popular with some owners, and I'm a new owner, but from what I've seen so far, I think SSR is the main problem. I think it was a mistake for Disney to build a humongous resort, way bigger than most of the others, in an undesirable location, so that you've got tons of people buying in there and then not wanting to stay there (OKW was the original and a bit different in that people who purchased there did want to stay there). This puts enormous pressure on the monorail and Epcot resorts for reservations. I could probably get a studio at SSR for next week, lol. If they had built SSR, say for example, where the Swan and Dolphin are, then I feel we wouldn't be having this conversation (I know, I know, not possible because of that stupid lease deal Eisner made, but just for example).

Some resorts and room sizes/categories are just more popular than others. If you want to pretty much guarantee your availability, buy where you love to stay. There is a reason that Disney set the 11/7 months rules and selling home resorts was the major reason.

:earsboy:

Bill

freediverdude · May 4, 2015

disneynutz said:
Some resorts and room sizes/categories are just more popular than others. If you want to pretty much guarantee your availability, buy where you love to stay. There is a reason that Disney set the 11/7 months rules and selling home resorts was the major reason.

Bill

Thank you, yes that is why I just purchased at the PVB! I do plan to stay there most years. Maybe one year I'll try for the VGF or maybe a 1 bedroom at BLT, but not for a few years at least. I do think there would be less of the 7/11 concern though without SSR in the picture is all I'm saying.

disneynutz · May 4, 2015

freediverdude said:
Thank you, yes that is why I just purchased at the PVB! I do plan to stay there most years. Maybe one year I'll try for the VGF or maybe a 1 bedroom at BLT, but not for a few years at least. I do think there would be less of the 7/11 concern though without SSR in the picture is all I'm saying.

Non-home resort owners booking at 7 months will always create competition. Doesn't matter what resort they own. Just think of all of the non-WDW owners who book at WDW resorts.

:earsboy:

Bill

freediverdude · May 4, 2015

Ok, Ok, I'm not going to continue the argument, lol. I do need to figure out how to get a Polynesian logo in my signature though. I don't know if there is one made up yet.

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