To Dining Plan or Not to Dining Plan?

When my family goes (15 or so), we usually eat our character meals and table service meals as a group. Quick service and snacks are scattered. We use the dining plan to make things easier. TIW would be useful for our meals together, but not nearly as cost effective for the quick service.
 
When my family goes (15 or so), we usually eat our character meals and table service meals as a group. Quick service and snacks are scattered. We use the dining plan to make things easier. TIW would be useful for our meals together, but not nearly as cost effective for the quick service.
Well, since TiW doesn't apply to quick service (other than a couple places at Animal Kingdom and value food courts), that's not really a big drawback.
 
I have looked into it, but we have never used the dining plan. First of all, we almost always order appetizers at restaurants and rarely order desserts. We do tend to drink wine or other adult beverages with dinner, or just plain water. The dining plan just doesn't work out well with our dining habits. Also, there are plenty of restaurants that offer 10% off for DVC members. On our trip just last week, we used the discount for several of our meals, including Citricos, ESPN Club, and Sanaa. Combine that with gift cards bought at Target for an additional 5% off. We have also had a few years where we had the TiW, but our most recent trips haven't been long enough to make they work for us either.
 
We are DVC members as well. We are a family of 4. We purchase the Dining Plan for a couple reasons. One is to have meals paid for ahead of time and another is we enjoy the variety of food choices that Disney offers. I also REFUSE to cook on vacation. I work a lot of hours per week, and I will not cook on vacation. The Dining Plan works great for us and I recommend it to anyone who is planning on eating at table service restaurants and are just overall food lovers!
 


I think we're going with the dining plan. Although I could watch my pennies and maybe save money .. I think it's just easier! Thanks everyone
 
This summer we had originally plan to OOP our meals but once we started making dining reservations and thinking about it more, we decided to add the dining plan. I suspect when it is all said and done it will be about the same price but now I have it prepaid and do not have to think about that aspect of the trip. We decided we did not want to have the feeling of being nickeled and dimed as you said or getting wrapped up with worrying about the amount being spent or trying to save money during the time.
For times when the DDP is not reasonable, like break even or worse, there are other ways to prepay such as gift cards. Don't forget that the DDP is use or lose, break even is quite a risk IMO.
 
I have looked into it, but we have never used the dining plan. First of all, we almost always order appetizers at restaurants and rarely order desserts. We do tend to drink wine or other adult beverages with dinner, or just plain water. The dining plan just doesn't work out well with our dining habits. Also, there are plenty of restaurants that offer 10% off for DVC members. On our trip just last week, we used the discount for several of our meals, including Citricos, ESPN Club, and Sanaa. Combine that with gift cards bought at Target for an additional 5% off. We have also had a few years where we had the TiW, but our most recent trips haven't been long enough to make they work for us either.
The DDP is a specialty option that works for some and not for others. There's also a big jump between the basic plan and dlx plan. I'd love to see an in between option akin to the deluxe plan but less credits. Or they could trash the entire system and use a points system or similar which would work well for those of us who may prefer to skip appetizers or desserts at times. That way one plan fits all, you just have to decide how many points to get and Disney simply must decide what points options are reasonable to offer. You just have a points table for dessert's, appy, counter service, TS & signatures with drink tied to the entree. It also could solve the problem of the in between places like Le Cellier. Obviously the law of unintended consequences could apply as could the careful what you wish for mantra but in theory it could do everything that the current plans do and actually be easier and cheaper to administrate and as easy or easier for the guests to understand.
 


That is an interesting concept. At that point, you'd just be pre-paying for "meal points" and you could allow families to buy as many points as they wanted (with bigger discounts for higher amounts). And with that, you could even add on points if you find yourself in need of more.

Technically, you could even leave regular prices on things and the "meal points" could actually be assigned a dollar value. ie, you could buy $500 Disney Dining Dollars for $400 bucks. It gets assigned to your account, and you can assign specific Magic Bands (in MDE) that would be able to use those Dining Dollars.

Of course, the de-coupling of monetary value to the points might be something they would want to stick with.
 
Disney uses the fixed food options and points per night of your reservation, all registered guests included as part of their formula for profit. Allowing guests to add points or discounting the price is counter productive to their end goal of making money. The DDP doesn't exist to benefit the guest, it exists to benefit Disney.

:earsboy: Bill
 
That is an interesting concept. At that point, you'd just be pre-paying for "meal points" and you could allow families to buy as many points as they wanted (with bigger discounts for higher amounts). And with that, you could even add on points if you find yourself in need of more.

Technically, you could even leave regular prices on things and the "meal points" could actually be assigned a dollar value. ie, you could buy $500 Disney Dining Dollars for $400 bucks. It gets assigned to your account, and you can assign specific Magic Bands (in MDE) that would be able to use those Dining Dollars.

Of course, the de-coupling of monetary value to the points might be something they would want to stick with.
Obviously there are many variables. I'm assuming Disney would want to keep much of the control and limit ideas in place. That means they'd likely control the minimum number of points to purchase much along the lines of the current limitations. But it could mean only one basic program instead of the 3 currently offered and the increased flexibility could bring more people into the purchase group. That does create other issues both good and bad such as busier restaurants but it means that every restaurant is potentially available to everyone at the "appropriate cost", that one could do all TS, all CS or ANY combo one wanted. It also means one could chose any combo they wanted and avoid anything they didn't want. By controling the cost of the points, points packages available and expiration; Disney still retains the windfall options they now have.
 
TIW is a much better options for us. We are a family of 5, with only one disney child, and we rarely eat CS. Before we were DVC, we would upgrade to the deluxe plan during free dining, but as others have mentioned it is a lot of food. I find we have much more flexibility with TIW and when I did a quick calculation on savings, it wasn't even close.
 
That is an interesting concept. At that point, you'd just be pre-paying for "meal points" and you could allow families to buy as many points as they wanted (with bigger discounts for higher amounts). And with that, you could even add on points if you find yourself in need of more.

Technically, you could even leave regular prices on things and the "meal points" could actually be assigned a dollar value. ie, you could buy $500 Disney Dining Dollars for $400 bucks. It gets assigned to your account, and you can assign specific Magic Bands (in MDE) that would be able to use those Dining Dollars.

Of course, the de-coupling of monetary value to the points might be something they would want to stick with.
They essentially do this already at at Disneyland. Except, using you're example, you pay $550 for $500 worth of dining. Disney doesn't need to discount anything here, and they won't.

http://www.disneyfoodblog.com/disneyland-dining-plans/
 
The first time we visited WDW, they had a dining plan where you basically pre-paid a fixed amount per night, and then you got some amount more in food credit (like 10%? 20%?). You could spend it on any food or drink, and they'd just deduct it from your account. That was a great system. If you went to a lot of table service restaurants, you'd run out of credit part way through your trip, which wasn't a problem for us. But I would guess for a lot of people it would be a pain running out of food credit by the end of your trip. The current system lets you ensure that you have meals remaining by the end of the trip.

Ultimately, with the way we eat, Tables in Wonderland works much better; it actually saves us significant money. But everyone is different. I tend to think that the dining plan is not (for most people) about saving money, it's about having the freedom to order fancy food without guilt, because it's already paid for.
 
They essentially do this already at at Disneyland. Except, using you're example, you pay $550 for $500 worth of dining. Disney doesn't need to discount anything here, and they won't.

http://www.disneyfoodblog.com/disneyland-dining-plans/
There was a similar program around the 1999 to 2000 but I forget what it was called. It was the replacement for the food n fun program. You got a credit equal to 10% over what you paid but other discounts did not apply. It was a horrible program since the DDE was much better and didn't last that long.
 
We use the TiW for the flexibility, especially if you are going more than once in 365 days. We last did the DDP in 06 or 07. After so many trips we've been there, done that at pretty much every restaurant. We no longer feel the need to character buffet every day of the trip or eat a huge meal. We like TS lunches and snack in our room. I've never "cooked" while at WDW but like to have a quick sandwich, bagel, some fruit or yogurt then snack our way around at night (ice cream!)
 
I budget our meals by adding up the cost of the dining plan per person, per day and then buying discounted gift cards in that amount. This way we get exactly what we want without sticker shock--sometimes we TiW. I typically come home with 2-3 hundred dollars left but it carries over to next trip and if we break even no problem. We are 2a,1c,2i and I only budget the adult price now. We use MB plus pin and charge to the room then settle with giftcards. Easy!

SotS
 
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We used to get the dining plan every time we went before we were DVC (most of the time, it was free) and could not imagine not having it. Now it is a different story. Before every trip, I put in where all we are planning to eat, and I have never had it come out where the DP was going to save us money over the TiW card. During trips, I have kept receipts, and at the end, added up everything we spent in food to compare to the cost of the dining plan. We have always come out ahead not using it. It makes me a little sad, because I always loved the dining plan. It seemed easy and nice to have the "prepaid" aspect of it done. But after going without it, ordering what we want, eating when we want, and not having to worry about making sure we use everything (we often had several left on our last days), it is a lot less stress to buy gift cards and go without DP than use it.
 
look at which restaurants have a discount available (DVC, AP if applicable, Disney Visa):
http://allears.net/pl/discounts.htm (PDF file)

personally, we found neither daily DDP nor TIW worth it for us. daily DDP was pricey, too much food &planning. TIW also required us to eat/drink/plan more than we would normally, just to get the value from it (even using one TWI during 3 separate vacations, 10-14 days each).
now we just use DVC/AP discounts, eat off-site (LOVE flippers' flatbreads!), and occasionally get DDP for a night on a split stay (using one night's credits over 2 days).
everyone & every family is different, however - you just need to see which choice is the best for you & yours. enjoy!:teeth:
 

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