Gabby Petito

[DLgal]

I tend to agree with you. I don't know how wealthy they are. Their house is certainly nothing special, but they do own a business.

But -- you wouldn't have to be a billionaire to get someone out of the country and into a place where they could be very difficult to find, and also difficult to extradite. To me that's a much more believable scenario than him hiding out in the wilderness somewhere by himself.

I've seen that their net worth is about 5 million. And remember, a lot of self made millionaires live very modest lives. Their house isn't some tiny shack or anything. It's a decent home with a nice yard and pool.

 

[neverlandsky]

I understand all of that, but then where does that leave us when all these people are out there crying "The Moab PD dropped the ball! They should have seen the signs! Gabby was a victim!"

What else can be done then, when the victims won't admit the truth to the people who can actually help them? Why all this outcry about how cops need better training if their efforts will be fruitless because victims won't ever admit to being victims?

I for one don't think The Moab PD drop the ball. That's a scapegoat excuse/mob mentality way of thinking. Yet I think and even said upthread that I hope laws are changed due to this case where there should be well checks after incident reports. 24-48 hours, 7 days, 1 month, & 6 months after an incident like this. Where LE checks-in or you yourself have to check-in. We have well checks after medical procedures/emergencies, I think we as a modern society this is where we can improve.

 

[PixieT78]

@DLgal - I totally respect that you have a situation in your life where you have seen the often forgotten about abuse that occurs as well (the female being the abuser). I think that this thread has been pretty good at acknowledging that it isn't always the male that is the abuser.

But it is absolutely a fact that the majority of abusive situations that occur in heterosexual relationships, have the male as the abuser. To ignore that fact and to assume situations are the reverse because of the one situation you have seen, isn't really a true reflection of what is happening in the world. Yes you were witness to the minority, but that doesn't change the fact that women are more likely to be the victim.

 

[DLgal]

@DLgal - I totally respect that you have a situation in your life where you have seen the often forgotten about abuse that occurs as well (the female being the abuser). I think that this thread has been pretty good at acknowledging that it isn't always the male that is the abuser.

But it is absolutely a fact that the majority of abusive situations that occur in heterosexual relationships, have the male as the abuser. To ignore that fact and to assume situations are the reverse because of the one situation you have seen, isn't really a true reflection of what is happening in the world. Yes you were witness to the minority, but that doesn't change the fact that women are more likely to be the victim.

At no point did I dispute your stats. I just said I had seen it and in fact, saw that dynamic more than the other in MY personal life, which I suppose explains me not immediately jumping to the conclusion that Gabby was an innocent victim after she admitted to the cops that she hit Brian. I saw that video and didn't see her as the victim as so many others did, likely due to my personal experiences with this relationship dynamic.

 

[PixieT78]

At no point did I dispute your stats. I just said I had seen it and in fact, saw that dynamic more than the other in MY personal life, which I suppose explains me not immediately jumping to the conclusion that Gabby was an innocent victim after she admitted to the cops that she hit Brian. I saw that video and didn't see her as the victim as so many others did, likely due to my personal experiences with this relationship dynamic.

Gotcha. Thanks for the further explanation.

 

[NotUrsula]

As Jim said, Fort deSoto isn't the kind of place anyone could hide out in for more than a day, as it is dead flat and the parts that are not beach are mostly waterway. I go there often, and there are only 2 places that anyone could hide: inside the fort itself, which might work except that is fully open for tourists to explore around in every day, and in the mangrove cuts, which would be workable only you were only using them to stash a kayak for a getaway; otherwise that's only waterway, so you'd have to hide either in a tree or underwater. The road entrance to Ft. deSoto is gated and there is an admission fee to get in; rangers get very close eyes on your vehicle coming and going. The same goes for Egmont Key, which is flat and has a lot of visitors, but is most notable for what it does NOT have: fresh water.

He's not hiding out in Ft. deSoto; that is, as our UK friends like to say, "a non-starter." What *could* have happened is that the parents left him there to make his own way out on foot, with a stolen bike or kayak, or even on the public bus line, with the intention of having him leave town from Tampa, where he would not be as conspicuous.

There is actually a Puerto Rico theory circulating, which IMO isn't all that way out there as a possibility. If he boarded a plane to Puerto Rico during or just after Labor Day weekend it might have worked, if he used a gift card online to buy a ticket under the assumed name of someone he knows well, and then claimed to have lost his ID. Puerto Rico is a US territory; the domestic ID rules are in effect for flights headed there, which means he could fly without photo ID if he agreed to "enhanced screening" by TSA. If this was the plan, I doubt he would have stayed in PR for more than a hot minute once he arrived, because he would have wanted to get out of easy reach of US law enforcement before the net started to close. Puerto Rico is a notoriously porous segment of the US border, so he could have gone just about anywhere in the Caribbean or even South America by boat from there.

About the phone: the report is that the phone that was purchased is the same phone left behind at his parents' home. It isn't that odd that anyone who had lost a phone might come in to replace it, so that part isn't suspicious at all, as he claimed his phone had been lost/broken on the trip out west. What could be possible is that the realization hit after buying it that a phone purchased at an actual phone store, even if pre-paid, is very traceable, because phone stores keep careful records for marketing. Buying one with cash at Walmart is a whole lot safer if you don't want it traced.

 

[tzolkin]

In the police video she can be heard telling the PO that she slapped him first, the PO asked where she answered (but couldn't be heard over the other PO on the screen) and he then questioned "you slapped his face?" He then asked how many times did you slap him. You can't make out what she said after that again due to the other PO speaking.
She also admits to hitting him when he was driving, she even shows the punching motion she used.
You can debate that all you want but that is coming from Gabby herself.

Your previous post that I was responding to said,
“Didnt she hit him with her phone?
If the answer is yes then taking her phone and keeping it from her is a reasonable response”
I don’t see how we can know that was the situation definitively. Even you said “if” so I think you recognized that we do not know for sure. Some said he was hit with the phone while they were struggling over it. (To me, that’s not the same as hitting him with the phone as a weapon and then him taking it away). Some have said he was taking her phone and was going to leave her on the side of the road with no way to get help. (Which is also a completely different scenario than him taking the phone because she hit him with it.)

 

[Sinder]

Your previous post that I was responding to said,
“Didnt she hit him with her phone?
If the answer is yes then taking her phone and keeping it from her is a reasonable response”
I don’t see how we can know that was the situation definitively. Even you said “if” so I think you recognized that we do not know for sure. Some said he was hit with the phone while they were struggling over it. (To me, that’s not the same as hitting him with the phone as a weapon and then him taking it away). Some have said he was taking her phone and was going to leave her on the side of the road with no way to get help. (Which is also a completely different scenario than him taking the phone because she hit him with it.)

True we don't know for sure that she hit him with her phone.
She did say she hit him I assumed that since she admitted to hitting him it was with her phone. I am making assumptions like the rest of us.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

Laundrie parents canceled their Sept 1-3 campground reservation on Aug 31, one day before Brian came home from Wyoming in Gabby’s van. It’s not conclusive, but it makes me think they had probably already talked to him and knew he was coming home.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/laundrie-de-soto-campground-reservations

 

[JimMIA]

OMG -- "Dog" found a monster!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TipsyTraveler]

This plane spent the afternoon circling the island Dog believes Brian is hiding out on.

“Aloha Brian Laundrie —Dog”

This is certainly more entertaining than the FBI’s method.

 

[Disneyfan754321]

Just wanted to say ... I guess it was a slow news day.. they are talking about his parents ordering Door dash - Dunkin saying they are acting like nothing is going on. (because they ordered)
This is plain stupid !!

 

[TipsyTraveler]

OMG -- "Dog" found a monster!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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In your professional police opinion, how many cans of Monster do fugitives usually stuff in their backpack before going on the run, and how much does the extra weight slow them down?

 

[TLSnell1981]

I tend to agree with you. I don't know how wealthy they are. Their house is certainly nothing special, but they do own a business.

But -- you wouldn't have to be a billionaire to get someone out of the country and into a place where they could be very difficult to find, and also difficult to extradite. To me that's a much more believable scenario than him hiding out in the wilderness somewhere by himself.

Bahamas? Cuba? Mexico? Boating around the Gulf?

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Just wanted to say ... I guess it was a slow news day.. they are talking about his parents ordering Door dash - Dunkin saying they are acting like nothing is going on. (because they ordered)
This is plain stupid !!

And if they went out they would have been like "how dare they go out and act like nothing happened"

**Truth I'm not really fans of his parents, I've had my comments in the past on this thread about if they knew some information, etc and all but yeah I totally agree with you slow news if that's the minutiae that is being focused on.

 

[JimMIA]

In your professional police opinion, how many cans of Monster do fugitives usually stuff in their backpack before going on the run, and how much does the extra weight slow them down?

I don't know. I'm a pre-Monster retiree.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

OMG -- "Dog" found a monster!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Aren't you just sharing tweets? And haven't you been critical of people tweeting and small sound bites given and when you said earlier "So much of the "regular" media these days is just following prominent people on Twitter and regurgitating their tweets."

 

[JimMIA]

Aren't you just sharing tweets? And haven't you been critical of people tweeting and small sound bites given and when you said earlier "So much of the "regular" media these days is just following prominent people on Twitter and regurgitating their tweets."

No. Actually I was just sharing an example of that. This is Fox News sharing their own Tweet.

Talk about a slow news day!

 

[Kimkimba]

Fight broke out between a neighbor and the protesters. I’m sure the neighbors have had it.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

No. Actually I was just sharing an example of that. This is Fox News sharing their own Tweet.

Talk about a slow news day!

But you're using a tweet to do so. It didn't seem like you would want to use even a tweet as an example based on your opinion of them (for which on sensational things I don't disagree with you). You are in essence regurgitating their tweet. I don't like nor dislike Dog the Bounty Hunter so it really doesn't matter to me what methods he uses, what he's finding (in this case a monster can is inconsequential to me not worth even sharing on this thread (though that is IMO) unless it could be traced back to Brian) or not finding. I'm more about hey so long as this doesn't impede authorities by all means help out. But you have been in various comments given your opinion of what you think of him and him being involved so I guess that makes me think differently when you share stuff because it's usually in a very mocking way, generally other posters are just sharing things related to Dog in an informational way. In any case my apologies it was an observation seeing you use a tweet like this.