UPDATE p. 37. I finally canceled. Too much uncertainty for us.

[4077]

It's totally fine to choose the right vacation for your family. But coming on a Disney message board to complain about the new system, profess that you are NEVER GOING AGAIN, etc. without even trying the new system is annoying.

I think the Disney board is a great place to express disappointment.....for here is where you can find folks who get it. Of course, there are also those who will disagree. I happen to think as you do about things in the sense that I am not stressing, upset, or disappointed about my upcoming trip in December. I will absolutely give it a try before making a judgement....and even at that point I will have to realize it is not the final product.

However, the problem on this boards with all of these discussions is that rather than just disagreeing with someone's change of heart or disappointment, some find it necessary to call people annoying or put them down in other ways make them feel like a bad person for sharing their feelings. Roomthreeseventeen spends time around the boards making others with concerns or changes of heart feel bad about it, as far as I have seen. If roomthreeseventeen spent the whole day responding to OP posts such as this one by saying he/she disagrees and that he/she thinks one should give it a chance before changing, than that would be fine. However, to go on to call posters annoying, etc just for posting feelings about Disney on a Disney board is just not the cool way to have a dialogue, in my opinion.

I suppose, however, if I am going to be high road, I need to say that room is probably entitled to his/her posts....lone would just hope that posters here could use some maturity and thoughtfulness when agreeing or disagreeing with others. Then again, to continue a thought on a previous post, this is civilization, what was I thinking....carry on as usual DIS....

 

[BigAlsGal]

I love FP as much as the next guy, but could never imagine canceling my trip over it.....too many other things to see, hear, explore, taste, experience at Disney...

Just my .02

Agreed agreed agreed!!!

 

[WillAustin]

This is civilization.....the sad reality is there are those who have more and can do more. There are those who have less and can do less. Decisions that an individual make do not imply a lack of gratefulness for ones place in the world.

Definitely, and to paraphrase something I saw from surferdave in another thread, just because we aren't forced to fight our neighbors for bullets and gasoline, it doesn't invalidate someone's complaints, whatever they might be.

 

[leebee]

I am so glad we aren't going to WDW until October 2014! Hopefully this will all be settled by then. I am doubly concerned about FP+ as not only do we not always stay onsite, but we don't have smart phones. We are not rope drop people, but have always managed to get on the headliners we love, even if we don't get to the park until noon. I fear this is going to change drastically now, and it doesn't make me happy. However, I'll reserve judgement about FP+ until the testing is over... but I am 100% hoping they keep "regular" fastpass around for those of us who stay offsite.

 

[kandb]

Wow, some of you dis'ers have a wild imagination. Saying the OP doesn't appreciate having a job and being able to take a vacation. Saying the people on here are "trying to make other people stay away from Disney" Where on earth do people dream this stuff up?

 

[tiggerdad]

Wow, some of you dis'ers have a wild imagination. Saying the OP doesn't appreciate having a job and being able to take a vacation. Saying the people on here are "trying to make other people stay away from Disney" Where on earth do people dream this stuff up?

At Universal...

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[Bullseye]

1. We have had a rough year. A lot of the stress has come from uncertainty and waiting for the other shoe to drop regarding things non-Disney. We needed a low stress vacation and WDW (while an active and busy vacation) usually fits that bill.

2. We are a repeat headliner family. We arrive early, pull at least 6-8 FP a day and stay late. The changes (tiered FP at Epcot) and as of today, what appears to be an end to double dipping, mean we would be limited to 3 FP a day and that is a big step down for us.

I realize FP+ will be a great thing for SOME people, based on their touring style. For us, it was sizing up to be an expensive hot mess. I told them when we canceled that we were waiting until the dust settled to see if we'd be back again. Until then, we may hit Universal again or even Disneyland.

Oh well..............

For those two reasons above you probably did the right thing op. We are just the opposite, get there early, leave midday and come back later. Maybe pull three fast passes all day. As much as I love Disney rides, it's just no huge deal if I miss some on a given trip.... in fact we always do. So this whole FP+ thing is just not a big deal. Of course I'm not going until next June so things will be a lot more "settled" by then. US/IOA as alternate plan sounds like a good plan. Lots of fun for everyone!!

 

[stickeymouse]

I for one do not pity or feel sorry for the poster of this thread. She made a voluntary decision to forego a trip to Disney World. There are so many people I know that wish they can go to WDW just once and are unable to do so. I just cannot sympathize with people who are complaining about FP+ for the reason that it changes their ordinary touring plan. If they choose not to go, so be it. It's their right to go or not go, but my sympathy they will not get.

This comment does not mean I am calling her names, putting her down, or even that I am an inconsiderate person (I assume you I am not). She posted her decision on an open forum, so I presume she is welcome to receiving comments.

 

[Spoiledraf]

I think all these FP+ complaints are a little comical. One says it takes too much planning, the next says it affects all our extensive planning. Some seem to think it gives special treatment to people who don't get there at rope drop, some it's not enough FPs, others it gives away too many FPs. Some are assuming they are taking away the FP-, although I don't see how they can for the day visitors. Sounds like most are just looking for an excuse to complain. The OP obviously has serious personal problems in their life. I'm sorry to hear that as we have had some things pop up that may affect our trip in three weeks as well, but sometimes you have to roll with the punches. If not being assured of getting 8 fast passes a day (which sounds a bit exaggerated but I'm not a commando) is reason enough to not go, then I guess you are making the right decision. But I will say, I have talked to several people already who don't go to Disney because of the lines and like implementation of the new FP+ system. Knowing they don't have to be there at rope drop makes Disney a more inviting destination they are more likely to visit. Folks like those are likely to be replacing those who back out because of it. So if you think you are stickin' it to Disney by canceling, I think Disney will be just fine without you. The resorts, high demand restaurants and high demand attractions are all booked solid. All those surveys Disney does surely addressed this before they spent a billion dollars putting it into use so obviously, a lot of somebody's liked the idea.
We'll be there in three weeks. The vast majority of posters who have already experienced the changes have had a positive response. I expect we will as well. But that's the difference between me and the OP. Everyone is different but I choose to see the glass as half full where as the OP seems to see it half empty.
Truly hope things improve in your life as I hope my own trials pass smoothly. With time, Disney will get it right for the masses. Not everybody will be happy but then again, they never are.

21 Days to the Happiest Place on Earth!!!

 

[AmyB2006]

At Universal...

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Ok, that, was funny.

 

[JimS4210]

I suspect that these posters are hoping to influence others on the Boards to stay away from WDW. We were at WDW two weeks ago and I must admit that I was apprehensive after reading the negative posts. I'm glad that I didn't stress out too much about it because our trip using MBs and FP+ was fine. We are getting ready to book another trip and are looking forward to using the new system again.

Totally agree. I don't get all of the angst and teeth gnashing going on regarding Fastpass+. We got back about a week ago and everything worked fine. Sure, you can't ride Tower of Terror 12 times in a row now, but WDW is a big place. Try something new, stop and smell the roses, have a Dole Whip...

It's a vacation, don't treat it like a military operation!

Jim

 

[bcrook]

I think all these FP+ complaints are a little comical. One says it takes too much planning, the next says it affects all our extensive planning. Some seem to think it gives special treatment to people who don't get there at rope drop, some it's not enough FPs, others it gives away too many FPs. Some are assuming they are taking away the FP-, although I don't see how they can for the day visitors. Sounds like most are just looking for an excuse to complain. The OP obviously has serious personal problems in their life. I'm sorry to hear that as we have had some things pop up that may affect our trip in three weeks as well, but sometimes you have to roll with the punches. If not being assured of getting 8 fast passes a day (which sounds a bit exaggerated but I'm not a commando) is reason enough to not go, then I guess you are making the right decision. But I will say, I have talked to several people already who don't go to Disney because of the lines and like implementation of the new FP+ system. Knowing they don't have to be there at rope drop makes Disney a more inviting destination they are more likely to visit. Folks like those are likely to be replacing those who back out because of it. So if you think you are stickin' it to Disney by canceling, I think Disney will be just fine without you. The resorts, high demand restaurants and high demand attractions are all booked solid. All those surveys Disney does surely addressed this before they spent a billion dollars putting it into use so obviously, a lot of somebody's liked the idea.
We'll be there in three weeks. The vast majority of posters who have already experienced the changes have had a positive response. I expect we will as well. But that's the difference between me and the OP. Everyone is different but I choose to see the glass as half full where as the OP seems to see it half empty.
Truly hope things improve in your life as I hope my own trials pass smoothly. With time, Disney will get it right for the masses. Not everybody will be happy but then again, they never are.

21 Days to the Happiest Place on Earth!!!

There is a possibility that most of the fastpasses will be pulled up to 30 days or more in advance. So when somebody leaves for a trip and gets to the park they will find out that all FP+ were taken by other people. The battle for fastpasses will move from early morning on park day to early morning remotely via computer weeks in advance. And Disney's goal will be to fill every ride in advance. What until the marketing campaign starts.

Currently, off site guests have no access to the system. Disney has said they do not plan on holding back any fastpasses for the day of. Regular fastpass will go away. We know all of this.

This Is a good reason for people to worry about their trips in the future. People aren't guaranteed even one headliner (unless tiering is used in all parks). I think there is enough uncertainty to bail and wait and see.

It won't be as big of a deal in non peak times. But during peak, it could be very limiting if you don't in book in advance.

 

[Jennasis]

Clearly some completely missed what the OP was saying.

She isn't cancelling her trip because she thinks FP+ is an abomination or unfair etc, and she's never going to WDW again (foot stomp!). She's cancelling because the test is still ongoing and the parameters of the test are changing so often and without much notice that she's unable to plan her trip with any confidence.

I don't blame her. And unlike the unsympathetic folks who've chimed in,for no other reason than wagging a finger at her, I AM sorry that it has to be that way for her. My trip isn't until next fall and I am super thankful for that as things are so up in the air right now with FP+ and MDE.

 

[AmyB2006]

We were at WDW two weeks ago and I must admit that I was apprehensive after reading the negative posts. I'm glad that I didn't stress out too much about it because our trip using MBs and FP+ was fine. We are getting ready to book another trip and are looking forward to using the new system again.

I agree as well. I was apprehensive, too, and we had a great trip. I can't wait to go back.

Sure, you can't ride Tower of Terror 12 times in a row now,

This made me laugh.

 

[robpa]

I think all these FP+ complaints are a little comical. One says it takes too much planning, the next says it affects all our extensive planning. Some seem to think it gives special treatment to people who don't get there at rope drop, some it's not enough FPs, others it gives away too many FPs. Some are assuming they are taking away the FP-, although I don't see how they can for the day visitors. Sounds like most are just looking for an excuse to complain. The OP obviously has serious personal problems in their life. I'm sorry to hear that as we have had some things pop up that may affect our trip in three weeks as well, but sometimes you have to roll with the punches. If not being assured of getting 8 fast passes a day (which sounds a bit exaggerated but I'm not a commando) is reason enough to not go, then I guess you are making the right decision. But I will say, I have talked to several people already who don't go to Disney because of the lines and like implementation of the new FP+ system. Knowing they don't have to be there at rope drop makes Disney a more inviting destination they are more likely to visit. Folks like those are likely to be replacing those who back out because of it. So if you think you are stickin' it to Disney by canceling, I think Disney will be just fine without you. The resorts, high demand restaurants and high demand attractions are all booked solid. All those surveys Disney does surely addressed this before they spent a billion dollars putting it into use so obviously, a lot of somebody's liked the idea.
We'll be there in three weeks. The vast majority of posters who have already experienced the changes have had a positive response. I expect we will as well. But that's the difference between me and the OP. Everyone is different but I choose to see the glass as half full where as the OP seems to see it half empty.
Truly hope things improve in your life as I hope my own trials pass smoothly. With time, Disney will get it right for the masses. Not everybody will be happy but then again, they never are.

21 Days to the Happiest Place on Earth!!!

I don't think anyone thinks or are trying to stick it to Disney, they just are stressed out by the uncertainty. Fact is no one knows what the final system is going to look like. This time next year this will probably be a non issue,but until then I can understand why people are cancelling or delaying trips. Good luck in 3 wks hope everything works out for you and your family.

 

[mgrayar]

There is a possibility that most of the fastpasses will be poked up 30 days or more in advance. So when somebody leaves for a trip and gets to the park they will find out that all FP+ were taken by other people. The battle for fastpasses will move from early morning on park day to early morning remotely via computer weeks in advance. And Disney's goal will be to fill every ride in advance. What until the marketing campaign starts. Currently, off site guests have no access to the system. Disney has said they do not plan on holding back any fastpasses for the day of. Regular fastpass will go away. We know all of this. This Is a good reason for people to worry about their trips in the future. People aren't guaranteed even on headliner (unless tiering is used in all parks). I think there is enough uncertainty to bail and wait and see. It won't be as big of a deal in non peak times. But during peak, it could be very limiting if you don't in advance.

Although you point out relevant future concerns for the FP+ change, this wasn't what caused the OP to cancel. Nearly all the concerns in your post have nothing to do with trips coming up during the test. Of course the uncertainty if future test changes (OP's trip canceling reason) is 100% legit, but the FP+ and FP- issues don't seem to really be impacting visitors (currently during the test) to the tune of your concerns above.

We arrive after T-Day. I am optimistic that my knowledge if the test and my planning will make it just as magical as ever.

 

[tiggerdad]

Ok, that, was funny.

Thanks for noticing. Didn't think anybody would catch that two worder with all the 5-6 paragraph FP+ rants going on.

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[Magpie]

I completely understand the OP's reasoning. If planning the vacation is too stressful, then don't go. It's a vacation, not an obligation!

What I'm confused about is what purpose a "I'm taking my ball and going home," thread has on a board about Theme Park Attractions and Strategies. I could see it belonging in Theme Parks Community, as it's always nice to connect with your friends online and let them know what's current in your life.

But a strategy board?

I'm imagining someone wandering over here thinking, "Oh, a theme park touring strategy board. How lovely. They'll help me plan my vacation!"

Only to be greeted with, "This is why I'm (edited for accuracy) cancelling my trip and not going to Disney, until possibly later, maybe."

Basically the newest "strategy" on these boards? "Don't go!"

 

[bcrook]

Totally agree. I don't get all of the angst and teeth gnashing going on regarding Fastpass+. We got back about a week ago and everything worked fine. Sure, you can't ride Tower of Terror 12 times in a row now, but WDW is a big place. Try something new, stop and smell the roses, have a Dole Whip...

It's a vacation, don't treat it like a military operation!

Jim

I read this a lot.... Pay your outrageous admission, skip the rides, smell the roses, eat a dole whip, get a $10.00 grey goose slushie, buy a t shirt, add on a tour, check out a few themed restaurants.

My teenagers don't like this plan. It works for me pretty well, but not them.

 

[Jennasis]

I completely understand the OP's reasoning. If planning the vacation is too stressful, then don't go. It's a vacation, not an obligation!

What I'm confused about is what purpose a "I'm taking my ball and going home," thread has on a board about Theme Park Attractions and Strategies. I could see it belonging in Theme Parks Community, as it's always nice to connect with your friends online and let them know what's current in your life.

But a strategy board?

I'm imagining someone wandering over here thinking, "Oh, a theme park touring strategy board. How lovely. They'll help me plan my vacation!"

Only to be greeted with, "This is why I'm NEVER GOING TO WDW AGAIN!"

The newest "strategy" on these boards? "Don't go!"

Perhaps you could point out where in the OP it says this? I missed it. Or where anyone else in the thread has said this? #hyperbole