Is anyone else hugely entertained by the FP+ tier system test?

[Magpie]

Yes, I admit I actually LOLed for reallies when I started reading that thread and realized what Disney did with the Epcot tiers. It's like they're toying with the DISers ON PURPOSE. Bwahahaha.

Exactly!

 

[suzanna1066@comcast.]

Looks like Disney is testing the tiered functionality. I absolutely think the number of e ticket FP+s will ultimately be tied to resort level at some point.

I am fine with this because I still firmly believe Disney is doing the right thing by upgrading the technology. I don't always stay deluxe and I am not a Disney apologist but I will adapt to the system or stay home.

And yes, this is the ultimate first world problem, which makes me very thankful as a whole.

 

[Magicalcarpetride]

Watching and learning and hoping things improve before January! So far these are the best boards to prepare people for upcoming trips!

 

[skriegerjr]

I don't think they are actually toying with them, LOL. I don't think they care about the Disboards either. It's just amusing because if one had to custom engineer a move to agitate the already emotionally taxed DISers, this tier system would be it.

I couldn't agree more, especially when you take into account, that as a whole, out of the millions of visitors per year Disney gets, DISboarders are probably such a small percentage of visitors, it would hardly show up on their radar!

Sent from my rooted Samsung Galaxy SIII using the DISBoards app

 

[Waddler]

If I go into a fancy restaurant and order a filet, and they delivery a hamburger, I should be happy right? I mean, that's a first world problem, right? Lots of starving kids in Africa would love to have that hamburger, right?

Yep.

Normally, I'd be amused by all this... similar to the OP... but this is my $10,000 hamburger.

 

[ArwenMarie]

I am fascinated with the whole thing just from a business point of view. That's why I read all of these threads. It's not really personal for me. If a trip stinks for whatever reason, I just won't go back.

But yes, anyway, still fascinating.

 

[mom2rtk]

I am fascinated with the whole thing just from a business point of view. That's why I read all of these threads. It's not really personal for me. If a trip stinks for whatever reason, I just won't go back.

But yes, anyway, still fascinating.

It's personal for me, I'm not going to lie. But I also love looking at this from a business perspective. Can they pull it off? How will it change along the way? Stay tuned!

 

[ArwenMarie]

It's personal for me, I'm not going to lie. But I also love looking at this from a business perspective. Can they pull it off? How will it change along the way? Stay tuned!

It's like a very very very slow moving reality show

I think we tour differently from what I've read of your posts, so I am probably not as annoyed personally yet by the whole thing.

But fascinating nevertheless.

 

[daytondisney]

since you asked

If I go into a fancy restaurant and order a filet, and they delivery a hamburger, I should be happy right?

yes

I mean, that's a first world problem, right?

yes

Lots of starving kids in Africa would love to have that hamburger, right?

yes

 

[daytondisney]

Sure, if you have a disappointing experience you can - and should! - protest to the management (ie, write directly to Disney).

And yes, getting a hamburger when you ordered filet IS a First World Problem. It wouldn't traumatize me, I simply would post my experience on Yelp and never return to that restaurant.

What if you ordered filet, but while they were still cooking it you saw smoke coming from the kitchen and got the idea that it might not be as good as the one you had last year? Would it be too early go into full snark mode?

 

[gorkt]

The FP+ whining is the very definition of First World Problems. I am heading down tomorrow and I am just astonishingly grateful that a) a place like WDW exists at all, b) that I don't have to work for a week, and c) that my kids are going to be really happy. Everything else is just icing on the cake.

 

[surferdave]

I do have sympathy for other people's pain, but at the same time, being as this is all the absolute definition of a "First World Problem", I'm also enjoying the drama of it all. It reminds me how fortunate I am to have such problems as these.

The first world problem mantra is pretty obtuse. I suspect every problem every person on the message board has is first world, but that doesn't mean they accept them with quiet resignation and just be glad they're not fighting their next door neighbor to the death for bullets and gasoline.

 

[daytondisney]

The first world problem mantra is pretty obtuse. I suspect every problem every person on the message board has is first world, but that doesn't mean they accept them with quiet resignation and just be glad they're not fighting their next door neighbor to the death for bullets and gasoline.

"Obtuse" has crossed my my mind a thousand times when perusing these threads...just not this one. Maybe OP should've use "in the context of first world problems..."

 

[surferdave]

"Obtuse" has crossed my my mind a thousand times when perusing these threads...just not this one. Maybe OP should've use "in the context of first world problems..."

Yeah, I don't say it every time I see it either.

 

[Magpie]

What if you ordered filet, but while they were still cooking it you saw smoke coming from the kitchen and got the idea that it might not be as good as the one you had last year? Would it be too early go into full snark mode?

I had this happen once! We had to be evacuated from the restaurant.

I didn't go into full snark mode, as burning down the kitchen was clearly not something the restaurant had intended to do that day. But I was glad we hadn't yet paid for our meals (being as they never arrived at the table). If we had, for some reason, prepaid, I'd expect either another seating or my money back, preferably both.

The first world problem mantra is pretty obtuse. I suspect every problem every person on the message board has is first world, but that doesn't mean they accept them with quiet resignation and just be glad they're not fighting their next door neighbor to the death for bullets and gasoline.

Obtuse: Since I'm clearly not "slow to understand", I'm going to guess you mean I'm being "annoyingly insensitive". "First world problems" is definitely not a mantra, though, or I'd be using it in my daily meditations.

I have never, in anything I've written, suggested anyone should accept any of this with "quiet resignation". In fact, I said that writing a letter to Disney management would be a good thing to do, if you ever have a bad experience on your vacation.

Feedback is critically important, both positive and negative. You need to state exactly what went wrong on your vacation, when it happened, and the names of any staff involved. If there's something particular they can do to make up for your bad experience, you should mention that as well.

Of course, it's difficult to give feedback when you haven't yet sampled the product.

And YES, you bet I'm grateful to have First World Problems. My best friend is on disability, and will never be able to afford a trip to Disney, even if she was ever healthy enough to enjoy a theme park anyway. Me, I didn't grow up going to Disney... in fact, we didn't always have a bed for my mom to sleep in. All my clothes were second hand, passed on from friends. So, to me, all of this is nothing but playtime, and as such is it's nothing I can take terribly seriously. If I don't enjoy the restaurant/theme park/resort I'm at, I'll go somewhere else. I won't cry about it!

It's interesting, it's entertaining, and I'm definitely curious to see where it's all headed.

 

[redsbe]

Fundamentally I suppose it comes down to whether FP+ is essential to your WDW experience along with riding popular attractions 3 or more times in one day park visit. Clearly for some visitors and posters those are essential, but I am guessing that for many others the WDW experience is much more varied and complex for those folks (who for all we know could be the vast majority of visitors) beyond FP and TSMM. Frankly I know I could have a great time at WDW with FP or TSMM, or plan accordingly so as to experience TSMM at RP or using the limited FP+ I would have.

I suspect WDW knows exactly the typical and majority visitor experience (easy data for them to collect) and ultimately whatever form MBs and FP+ takes will reflect that experience even at the expense of those put off by FP+ limitations. In other words for every person ticked off and threatening never to return (and of course many will return) there are many others to replace them and accept the new FP+ rules. With millions of visitors, WDW was never about provide the best personal and customized experience, but tending to the masses in an efficient, cost effective and profit based approach.

 

[daytondisney]

I had this happen once! We had to be evacuated from the restaurant.

I didn't go into full snark mode, as burning down the kitchen was clearly not something the restaurant had intended to do that day. But I was glad we hadn't yet paid for our meals (being as they never arrived at the table). If we had, for some reason, prepaid, I'd expect either another seating or my money back, preferably both.

I was just trying to offer a more apt analogy than that of the order-filet-get-burger that seemingly justified the snarky response you received...

humor - if you've got to explain, it wasn't funny

 

[daytondisney]

Fundamentally I suppose it comes down to whether FP+ is essential to your WDW experience along with riding popular attractions 3 or more times in one day park visit. Clearly for some visitors and posters those are essential, but I am guessing that for many others the WDW experience is much more varied and complex for those folks (who for all we know could be the vast majority of visitors) beyond FP and TSMM. Frankly I know I could have a great time at WDW with FP or TSMM, or plan accordingly so as to experience TSMM at RP or using the limited FP+ I would have.

I suspect WDW knows exactly the typical and majority visitor experience (easy data for them to collect) and ultimately whatever form MBs and FP+ takes will reflect that experience even at the expense of those put off by FP+ limitations. In other words for every person ticked off and threatening never to return (and of course many will return) there are many others to replace them and accept the new FP+ rules. With millions of visitors, WDW was never about provide the best personal and customized experience, but tending to the masses in an efficient, cost effective and profit based approach.

^This^

 

[BuzzBelleMom]

 

[dwheaton]

This entire First World discussion is silly. Essentially everything that's discussed on the boards fits within that category. Using that to dismiss any concerns about FP+ or any other Disney policy is ridiculous.

I've seen complaints about FP+ and the new system go well beyond the DIS. Along with other pockets of the Disney fan community, I've heard from family members that they're unlikely to go if this system is put in place. I'm certain that people beyond our little niche are complaining about it at the parks right now.

Getting to the point of this post, I do find it entertaining mostly because of the rides that actually are listed as needed a FP. Figment and Captain EO are fun in their own way, but it's silly to even sell a reserved time. It's quite a stretch for me and makes the entire new program look dumb.

We'll see where it all lands...