The Official 2013 Wine and Dine Half Marathon Thread

[Gingy27]

Does anyone know of any way to get finish line party tickets?? I see that they are technically sold out but it would mean the world to me to have my parents watch me complete my first half marathon. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

 

[schoonersky]

Does anyone know of any way to get finish line party tickets?? I see that they are technically sold out but it would mean the world to me to have my parents watch me complete my first half marathon. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Could they watch from the Boardwalk area and then you could circle back to see them, if you can't find tickets?

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[wood8176]

Here's another one that I think is particularly relevant for the W&D - how long do you wait to after running and does it make any difference in recovery times?

Since this wasn't answered, I thought I would repost for others to jump in and give you my thoughts...
My preferred recovery drink is chocolate milk. And I drink it within minutes of finishing, almost as soon as I catch my breathe. It is recommended to start replenishing carbs within the first 30-45 minutes of running. I've been drinking it after every long run since I read an article about how it is purported to be the best recovery drink due to its natural balance of carbs and protein, about two years ago.
I have also run small races and one marathon (Mount Desert Island) where the organizers offered free beer to finishers. Talk about an incentive!
Nutritionally, chocolate milk has about twice the carbs and about eight times the protein, 26 carbs to 13, and 8 grams of protein to about 2 (of course this varies by beer style, brand, etc...) On the other hand beer reportedly contains natural anti-inflammatory properties and anti-oxidants.
I think what it really comes down to is whether or not you can handle the carbonation after the race. You should test this out on your next long run.
Another thing to remember is that you will be somewhat dehydrated and probably have an empty stomach, so alcohol will affect you faster than normal.

 

[peachygreen]

Since the weather is so nice I put off last nights run to run at lunch today so I packed a bag to take to work with my running stuff, a towel, some shampoo and conditioner etc.

The run was great. I hiked up to the 10th floor of our office where the shower is to find that there was no hot water. I took the quickest, coldest shower ever. I swear I've been in ice baths that are warmer than that shower.

I loved getting a run in at lunch though. Definitely not practical in the summer in Houston but it felt great right now and would be great through the winter. I don't want to deal with ice cold showers everyday though.

 

[dmross]

Since the weather is so nice I put off last nights run to run at lunch today so I packed a bag to take to work with my running stuff, a towel, some shampoo and conditioner etc.

The run was great. I hiked up to the 10th floor of our office where the shower is to find that there was no hot water. I took the quickest, coldest shower ever. I swear I've been in ice baths that are warmer than that shower.

I loved getting a run in at lunch though. Definitely not practical in the summer in Houston but it felt great right now and would be great through the winter. I don't want to deal with ice cold showers everyday though.

Ahhhh! The cold work shower!! I am familiar with this phenomenon... Amazing what we can put up with when we have no other options.

 

[PlutoBaby]

Getting very excited for the race! I was able to eek out a 10K this weekend, and going for the 15K on Saturday. Not enjoying the accelerated training, but I need to make sure I can get my mileage in thanks to my ill timed back spasm. A few weeks ago I didn't think I would even be able to get to the starting line and now it looks like I WILL finish!

You got this!

Thanks for the info! He'll be at the race start to cheer his wife who is running. So if you see a man wearing a bib in street clothes and walking boot near the G corral, you'll know why.

That was pretty much the DH last year. Only problem was the last spectator bus returning to Epcot left long before the start of the race.

OMG I'm freaking out! My race results have disappeared from the 10k that I ran at the end of september that I'm planning to use for proof of time. For some reason, I am missing from the results. I can't even find the entire 2013 race on active at all anymore! And on their race's website, it has results but not for me??? I think even though the website says it's the 2013 results, I think it's the 2012 results because the url is an active.com one and I know active doesn't have the 2013 race for some reason.

Wow - this is upsetting! I should have printed it right away but I don't have a printer at home and was always too busy to remember at work. They better fix this fast!

Edited to add: Ok, I found a spot to print finishers certificates and it has all the info on there. It doesn't actually say 10k on it though. This is SO frustrating.

Edited again: Ok, I found something that shows my name, the race name including 10k, my time, and the date. That should all work. crisis averted.

Yikes! Glad to see it all worked out!! Last thing you need right now is additional stress.

Since this wasn't answered, I thought I would repost for others to jump in and give you my thoughts...
My preferred recovery drink is chocolate milk. And I drink it within minutes of finishing, almost as soon as I catch my breathe. It is recommended to start replenishing carbs within the first 30-45 minutes of running. I've been drinking it after every long run since I read an article about how it is purported to be the best recovery drink due to its natural balance of carbs and protein, about two years ago.
I have also run small races and one marathon (Mount Desert Island) where the organizers offered free beer to finishers. Talk about an incentive!
Nutritionally, chocolate milk has about twice the carbs and about eight times the protein, 26 carbs to 13, and 8 grams of protein to about 2 (of course this varies by beer style, brand, etc...) On the other hand beer reportedly contains natural anti-inflammatory properties and anti-oxidants.
I think what it really comes down to is whether or not you can handle the carbonation after the race. You should test this out on your next long run.
Another thing to remember is that you will be somewhat dehydrated and probably have an empty stomach, so alcohol will affect you faster than normal.

Thanks so much! I'm a chocolate milk girl as well.

I did find your reply a bit as I was actually referring to "non-healthy" beverage consumption! My bad! Didn't make that very clear did I?

Here's the patch I sewed on my running pants last night...

 

[PlutoBaby]

On book page 20 (document page 12) of the program, there is a map of the starting area. The area noted at the bottom as Transportation Drop Off is the WWoS parking lot. The Runner/Spectator Area and Runner Only Area is normally the overflow parking lot. The Start line is Victory Way just at the point where one turns into the parking lots.

The WWoS globe and complex are off the bottom of the drawing. As it looks, the busses will drop runners along the yellow line and you will be forced to go through the gap in the bike rack fence the over to the side walk. One could simply go to the left and meet at the globe.

Found it! Okay, how about everyone who wants to get a DIS photo op meet at the globe around 8pm? That way anyone going to the Team#runDisney meetup at 9 will have enough time.

I'm also thinking if anyone would like to, on Friday, say around 3pm, we could also meet at the chairs under the back patio of the Boardwalk (directly on the left if you come down the outside staircase from the valet area). We could walk over for some ice cream or whatever from either Seashore Sweets or Beaches and Cream? If everyone is good with that, I'll see if I can get it up on the DIS FB page.

Also, on Saturday at 11am at the Friendship Dock at the Boardwalk, RunWDW is hosting a meetup with pics, giveaways, etc. It's open to everyone and looks like it's going to be fun. You can check on their website at www.runnersguidetowdw.com and look under Wine and Dine.

 

[longhorns2]

I can't believe how close we are!!! YIPES!

Wanted to share this great top 10 list for preparing for a race- One of my fellow bloggers wrote it and gave permission to share!

Sadly, I'm in a position to make a lot of these mistakes! eeeekkkk!

http://margaritasmilesandmouse.blogspot.com/2013/10/i-love-good-top-ten-list.html

 

[jenny_nichole]

So what are your plans for meeting friends/family after the race?

There's a map of the finish line in the official guide and it shows bleachers at the finish line. Would it be feasible for dh to wait for me there, or does this spot tend to be super crowded?

Any experiences with the changing rooms? (I wonder how much of a wait there would be.) Since the finish line is in the parking lot, I even thought about keeping my change of clothes in our van and meeting dh there.

Are there better places to meet within the park? We'll both have phones so we'll be in touch....just overthinking things It's so exciting that we're so close, right?

 

[wood8176]

That's a good question, I'd like to hear some suggestions too. I'm expecting to finish about 40 minutes before the other 5 members of our party due to corrals and injuries.

I'm planning to change and "shower", (I found athletic body wipes) and hang around. After the Disney Marathon, they politely funneled runners through the tent area, out of the finish area. Does anyone know how far out they push us for this? Can we get into the grandstand area?

 

[kristenrice]

Is it better to change in the changing area or is it less crowded if you go into the park and hit a restroom? I will have a washcloth, small towel and a bunch of baby wipes to try and "freshen up" afterwards. I assume the only place to find running water will be the restrooms, correct?

DH just realized that he is going to have to start running with his phone. He has an armband for it but since he doesn't listen to music when he runs, he's never used it. I told him that he will need his phone and ID on him when he runs so that I can call him when I finish. He will be at least 45 minutes, if not an hour ahead of me. So he said he will use it on his next few training runs.

The kids are out of school for the rest of the week so we are up at the hunting property, getting prepared for firearm deer season which opens on November 15.... We come home on the 12th!! DH will have ONE day to get all of his hunting equipment ready and loaded. He's lining in his rifle today and the girls are going small-game hunting in about an hour. I'm sitting here in the truck, staying warm and wishing that I'd stayed home so I could run. Maybe I will try a night run when we get home. It is supposed to snow tonight so in not sure about running in the dark AND in the snow.

 

[PlutoBaby]

I can't believe how close we are!!! YIPES!

Wanted to share this great top 10 list for preparing for a race- One of my fellow bloggers wrote it and gave permission to share!

Sadly, I'm in a position to make a lot of these mistakes! eeeekkkk!

http://margaritasmilesandmouse.blogspot.com/2013/10/i-love-good-top-ten-list.html

I follow this blog too but missed this post, so thanks! Have to say, big sad face for #7 and a big on #4. I have the whole "feet are nasty" thing going on too!

I'm planning to change and "shower", (I found athletic body wipes) and hang around. After the Disney Marathon, they politely funneled runners through the tent area, out of the finish area. Does anyone know how far out they push us for this? Can we get into the grandstand area?

I didn't do the changing tent thing last year but rather grabbed my snack box, a water, did the medal photo thing, and followed the fencing around towards the front of the park entrance. I met up with the DH right inside the park by the main W&D topiary just inside the turnstiles. It was a little less crowded there then closer to the finish line. It seemed pretty crowded all along the fencing that lines the last few hundred yards of the course. I believe after the picture stop, you circle back behind the grandstand(?) and then out towards the main entrance to the park. Hope this helps some.

 

[rachlovestv]

I would recommend picking a meet up spot for post-race, regardless of whether you plan on having your cellphones with you and connecting that way or not.

Last year, my phone actually died during the race. I was running with my friend, so we finished together, but I felt like I was going to puke post-race and didn't want to party, so I waited for her at a bench outside the finish area while she ran into Epcot to get something to drink. 2 hours later, she finally found me again on my bench, because she had forgotten to note where it was when she left me, and we had no way of contacting Each other otherwise.

Obviously, it's not quite the same as picking a meetup spot, but the same idea applies. If we had clearly designated a spot to meet (other than me grunting "I wait here"), it might not have been quite so frustrating.

 

[PlutoBaby]

Okay Coach - I know this subject has been beaten to death, but I'm going to throw this one at you for your opinion: I know I should start carb-loading as of Thursday(?) and keep it up until race day. I've read varying opinions as to carbs v. protein v. fat. Fat takes longer to digest and can cause some issues, however alot of people seem to do the 1/2 bagel with peanut butter thing within 1 hour of racing. Thoughts?? I simply ask due to the fatty peanut butter Also, during the race, I usually go through a bag of Stingers (2-3 every 3-4 miles). I don't typically have hydration problems, but wonder if the Stingers are better/worse/as good as something like pretzels?? I don;t know if the carbs work the same way regardless of what form they take (sugars v. whatever it is pretzels are made of ). Thanks again!!

How's the knee?

 

[cewait]

Okay Coach - I know this subject has been beaten to death, but I'm going to throw this one at you for your opinion: I know I should start carb-loading as of Thursday(?) and keep it up until race day. I've read varying opinions as to carbs v. protein v. fat. Fat takes longer to digest and can cause some issues, however alot of people seem to do the 1/2 bagel with peanut butter thing within 1 hour of racing. Thoughts?? I simply ask due to the fatty peanut butter Also, during the race, I usually go through a bag of Stingers (2-3 every 3-4 miles). I don't typically have hydration problems, but wonder if the Stingers are better/worse/as good as something like pretzels?? I don;t know if the carbs work the same way regardless of what form they take (sugars v. whatever it is pretzels are made of ). Thanks again!!

How's the knee?

Actually, carb loading as practiced by most is a fallacy. Frankly, it leads to a bloated, rock in the tummy or worse feeling in the race. Eating a couple days of carbs is just not going to help. I am not saying do not go out and have a nice pasta meal with friends and family, just keep the portions in moderation and only eat what you know you can handle well. Practice a good and balance diet through the week and have a light and carby meal (snack) Saturday night before coming over to the race.

What I try to get my runners to do if work up hydration. For the W&D, start on Thursday adding a glass or two of water to their normal intake. Your goal is to pee clear or slightly colored.

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As back ground, carb loading was (and still is among some) practiced by marathoners  but one must deplete prior to the loading. So about a week out from a marathon, runners will stop eating carbs while amping up 2-3 workout intensities in an effect to hit rock bottom; carb tank is empty condition. If you want to practice this, head to the gym and work legs until you feel dizzy and like puking (or do so); this is signal that your body is operating in a carb depleted condition& it is not pretty or fun. Personally, I have to have a coach/trainer standing over me pushing to get there. Once depleated, carb loading occurs where the percentage of carbs is increased a few percentage points above normal. After a couple days of loading, runners will then pull back to a balanced diet for the last 3-5 days before the race.

Fat loading is a relatively new concept and one that I find intriguing and that I practice or a week long cycle event or the Goofy/Dopey weekend. Its not what one would think. In real simple terms, the process is only adding 5-10% of additional fat to your daily intake for a 2-3 day period and then through the race(s). I am not talking adding a couple Bacon-ator Half Pounders, or a huge prime rib meal on race eave; rather, focus on the good fats. An extra serving of almonds, a double dose of peanut butter, humus and veggies for a snack. The concept is simple. If one is well trained and running at an effort where fats are the primary source of fuel, a diet that has a sudden and higher quantity of fats will make them more readily available to the runner on race day. The fats that create issue are the same fats that I would try to avoid on most days anyway.

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With regards to Pre-race and during race fueling, go with what you know. For many, Stingers work when other fuel sources fail. I would not feel bad about taking stingers about 20 minutes prerace (with water). Pretzels are old school marathon food. The carbs are fuel and the salts are electrolytes. I would not change at this time as you may be the one who has a bad reaction to pretzels on the run. What I would expect the first time one tried them is a really, really dry mouth and having difficulty getting them down. It is easily overcome, but will take a little trial and error.

With regard to the knee& Not such good news. I have iced and rested for the week. I am tempted to head out the door in the morning, just looking for reasons to not run  like I still wince with little notice as I walk.

 

[Figment1990]

Just wanted to say & TGIF to all my fellow W&D runners. We are SO close! Good luck to everyone in their training this weekend.

 

[capeseal]

I would recommend picking a meet up spot for post-race, regardless of whether you plan on having your cellphones with you and connecting that way or not.

Last year, my phone actually died during the race. I was running with my friend, so we finished together, but I felt like I was going to puke post-race and didn't want to party, so I waited for her at a bench outside the finish area while she ran into Epcot to get something to drink. 2 hours later, she finally found me again on my bench, because she had forgotten to note where it was when she left me, and we had no way of contacting Each other otherwise.

Obviously, it's not quite the same as picking a meetup spot, but the same idea applies. If we had clearly designated a spot to meet (other than me grunting "I wait here"), it might not have been quite so frustrating.

This is excellent advice!

 

[jenny_nichole]

This is excellent advice!

Agreed, thanks Rach for the great advice. I guess we'll choose a spot after we arrive on Saturday night before I catch a bus over to WWoS.

Thanks again.

 

[PlutoBaby]

Actually, carb loading as practiced by most is a fallacy. Frankly, it leads to a bloated, rock in the tummy or worse feeling in the race. Eating a couple days of carbs is just not going to help. I am not saying do not go out and have a nice pasta meal with friends and family, just keep the portions in moderation and only eat what you know you can handle well. Practice a good and balance diet through the week and have a light and carby meal (snack) Saturday night before coming over to the race.

What I try to get my runners to do if work up hydration. For the W&D, start on Thursday adding a glass or two of water to their normal intake. Your goal is to pee clear or slightly colored.

************************

As back ground, carb loading was (and still is among some) practiced by marathoners  but one must deplete prior to the loading. So about a week out from a marathon, runners will stop eating carbs while amping up 2-3 workout intensities in an effect to hit rock bottom; carb tank is empty condition. If you want to practice this, head to the gym and work legs until you feel dizzy and like puking (or do so); this is signal that your body is operating in a carb depleted condition& it is not pretty or fun. Personally, I have to have a coach/trainer standing over me pushing to get there. Once depleated, carb loading occurs where the percentage of carbs is increased a few percentage points above normal. After a couple days of loading, runners will then pull back to a balanced diet for the last 3-5 days before the race.

Fat loading is a relatively new concept and one that I find intriguing and that I practice or a week long cycle event or the Goofy/Dopey weekend. Its not what one would think. In real simple terms, the process is only adding 5-10% of additional fat to your daily intake for a 2-3 day period and then through the race(s). I am not talking adding a couple Bacon-ator Half Pounders, or a huge prime rib meal on race eave; rather, focus on the good fats. An extra serving of almonds, a double dose of peanut butter, humus and veggies for a snack. The concept is simple. If one is well trained and running at an effort where fats are the primary source of fuel, a diet that has a sudden and higher quantity of fats will make them more readily available to the runner on race day. The fats that create issue are the same fats that I would try to avoid on most days anyway.

****************

With regards to Pre-race and during race fueling, go with what you know. For many, Stingers work when other fuel sources fail. I would not feel bad about taking stingers about 20 minutes prerace (with water). Pretzels are old school marathon food. The carbs are fuel and the salts are electrolytes. I would not change at this time as you may be the one who has a bad reaction to pretzels on the run. What I would expect the first time one tried them is a really, really dry mouth and having difficulty getting them down. It is easily overcome, but will take a little trial and error.

As always, you are the voice of reason...even if that voice contradicts everything else I read! No worries, though, going to stick with what I know. I have a 10 miler this weekend, so I'll take my Stingers with me and be done with it. I was too anxious to eat much more than a few bites of a turkey sub last year, so I think it'll be the good old tuna/pasta salad around 5pm and a Clif bar around 8:30-9pm. Hydration is definitely not an issue. I train in this south Florida heat all year long so if I drank anything more than I already do, I'd probably float off to Cuba.
With regard to the knee& Not such good news. I have iced and rested for the week. I am tempted to head out the door in the morning, just looking for reasons to not run  like I still wince with little notice as I walk.

NO!!! Healing thoughts, and coming your way!

Just wanted to say & TGIF to all my fellow W&D runners. We are SO close! Good luck to everyone in their training this weekend.

and back at ya! Can't wait to see you all in 13 days, 10 hours and 29 minutes!!

 

[Figment1990]

Actually, carb loading as practiced by most is a fallacy. Frankly, it leads to a bloated, rock in the tummy or worse feeling in the race. Eating a couple days of carbs is just not going to help. I am not saying do not go out and have a nice pasta meal with friends and family, just keep the portions in moderation and only eat what you know you can handle well. Practice a good and balance diet through the week and have a light and carby meal (snack) Saturday night before coming over to the race.

What I try to get my runners to do if work up hydration. For the W&D, start on Thursday adding a glass or two of water to their normal intake. Your goal is to pee clear or slightly colored.

************************

As back ground, carb loading was (and still is among some) practiced by marathoners  but one must deplete prior to the loading. So about a week out from a marathon, runners will stop eating carbs while amping up 2-3 workout intensities in an effect to hit rock bottom; carb tank is empty condition. If you want to practice this, head to the gym and work legs until you feel dizzy and like puking (or do so); this is signal that your body is operating in a carb depleted condition& it is not pretty or fun. Personally, I have to have a coach/trainer standing over me pushing to get there. Once depleated, carb loading occurs where the percentage of carbs is increased a few percentage points above normal. After a couple days of loading, runners will then pull back to a balanced diet for the last 3-5 days before the race.

Fat loading is a relatively new concept and one that I find intriguing and that I practice or a week long cycle event or the Goofy/Dopey weekend. Its not what one would think. In real simple terms, the process is only adding 5-10% of additional fat to your daily intake for a 2-3 day period and then through the race(s). I am not talking adding a couple Bacon-ator Half Pounders, or a huge prime rib meal on race eave; rather, focus on the good fats. An extra serving of almonds, a double dose of peanut butter, humus and veggies for a snack. The concept is simple. If one is well trained and running at an effort where fats are the primary source of fuel, a diet that has a sudden and higher quantity of fats will make them more readily available to the runner on race day. The fats that create issue are the same fats that I would try to avoid on most days anyway.

****************

With regards to Pre-race and during race fueling, go with what you know. For many, Stingers work when other fuel sources fail. I would not feel bad about taking stingers about 20 minutes prerace (with water). Pretzels are old school marathon food. The carbs are fuel and the salts are electrolytes. I would not change at this time as you may be the one who has a bad reaction to pretzels on the run. What I would expect the first time one tried them is a really, really dry mouth and having difficulty getting them down. It is easily overcome, but will take a little trial and error.

With regard to the knee& Not such good news. I have iced and rested for the week. I am tempted to head out the door in the morning, just looking for reasons to not run  like I still wince with little notice as I walk.

Thanks for the advice Coach! I hope your knee starts to feel better sooner rather than later. Hang in there.