FYI RE: "Double Dipping"

[TravelE]

This past trip (Oct 1-8) we witnessed several people holding up the fast pass return lines with "This is not a valid fastpass" tickets. It was the first time we had really encountered this. They were turned away but it took some time for the CMs to explain. We also waited behind GAC card holders who wanted to include more than 6 people in their group.
Truly it's not a big deal to wait while the CM helps these people. It's a slight delay but once through you do zip through the line.
I miss the days when you could return any time after your fast pass window had started. Ever since then, our trips have felt like the Amazing Race where the clock rules our day.

 

[PEANUT1]

I wrote a letter to disney and got a reply that we absolutely can use our magic bands as well as our paper tickets for fastpasses. This was a hard limit for me when deciding whether or not to try the new system.

 

[pickles]

if you have MB..and are at a park and want a FP usuing a machine and not your phone..how do you do it?

 

[PEANUT1]

if you have MB..and are at a park and want a FP usuing a machine and not your phone..how do you do it?

Disney emailed me that I can use my annual pass in the machines just like before..this is just for now while they are trialing it.I don't know what will happen in the future.

 

[pickles]

Disney emailed me that I can use my annual pass in the machines just like before..this is just for now while they are trialing it.I don't know what will happen in the future.

I wont have an AP..just the MB

 

[LSUfan4444]

And this is only happening with MB guests? Because I know for a fact, that people who do/did not have MB have done it. So it's not isolated to just MB guests.

I never said it was.

You said it was ridiculous that anyone think any actions done by MB testers is having any sort of negative impact on non testers and I am providing information that shows that is not accurate.

The option to double dip and essentially pulling two FPs for one ride increases the return time more than someone pulling a FP and just not using it.

No, it isn't jumping back return times by 2 hours, but no it's not ridiculous to that it has any impact whatsoever.

 

[LSUfan4444]

I wont have an AP..just the MB

If you are talking about pulling a paper FP, just use the KTTW card you will get at check in.

If you are talking about changing your FP+ return time without a smart phone there are kiosks set up for you to do so.

 

[Louisville]

I wont have an AP..just the MB

. They will give you a KTTW card at check in that you can use to pull regular FP. Also if you have a separate park ticket such as one you have purchased from UT these will work as well and in addition to KTTW card.

 

[donnishobson]

. They will give you a KTTW card at check in that you can use to pull regular FP. Also if you have a separate park ticket such as one you have purchased from UT these will work as well and in addition to KTTW card.

I have a park ticket with a magnetic stripe bought early this year. Will that work for FP-? I will have MB and Kttw. Only plan to use the ticket for TSMM for my 65th birthday. Should I use the ticket to enter or is the MB okay to use? Leaving in one week.

 

[skriegerjr]

I never said it was.

You said it was ridiculous that anyone think any actions done by MB testers is having any sort of negative impact on non testers and I am providing information that shows that is not accurate.

The option to double dip and essentially pulling two FPs for one ride increases the return time more than someone pulling a FP and just not using it.

No, it isn't jumping back return times by 2 hours, but no it's not ridiculous to that it has any impact whatsoever.

Non testers pulling fast passes they don't intend to use can have just as negative an impact on times.

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[LSUfan4444]

Non testers pulling fast passes they don't intend to use can have just as negative an impact on times.

I don't think so...reason is, they aren't pulling double FPs for the same attraction.

If I am a tester and have a 10 am FP+ reservation for TSM, then arrive to the park at 9 am and grab paper FPs, but don't ever use them I have no essentially reserved two places for TSM.

If you are not a tester and arrive to the park at 9 am and grab a TSM FP without having a FP+ for TSM I will have double the impact on the FP as you.

If I have two and you have one, who has a bigger impact on supply?

I feel you're just arguing semantics.

Testers have more opportunities to manipulate the FP system (which is perfectly fine, allowed and acceptable), so their actions can have a negative impact on non testers simply because they have more options. It isn't a HUGE impact and it isn't ridiculous to think it's a reality.

 

[wintotty]

I wrote a letter to disney and got a reply that we absolutely can use our magic bands as well as our paper tickets for fastpasses. This was a hard limit for me when deciding whether or not to try the new system.

Which E-mail address did you send your letter? Or did you mail it out?

 

[GrimGrinningGhost25]

Whether or not three is enough is a personal preference. When I first heard of the three FP limit I was really angry and did not think that it was anywhere near enough.

When DH and I went down in Jan 2013 we were not part of testing, but I took special consideration to how many FP we were using. We didn't use more than three any day we were there.

Again, this is the way we tour but I can see how some know that it is not nearly enough for them.

I do think the hoppers and AP should get to book in more than one park. Although, this is a testing phase and lots of things can change.

I am one of those people that think FP should only be eligible to resort guests. Not looking to rile anyone up, it's just my opinion. I happen to like the way Universal handles this.

 

[zamboniman333]

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3190530

Magic Bands/FP+ and Legacy FP (Rumor) for 10/27/2013

 

[Luvchefmic]

Whether or not three is enough is a personal preference. When I first heard of the three FP limit I was really angry and did not think that it was anywhere near enough.

When DH and I went down in Jan 2013 we were not part of testing, but I took special consideration to how many FP we were using. We didn't use more than three any day we were there.

Again, this is the way we tour but I can see how some know that it is not nearly enough for them.

I do think the hoppers and AP should get to book in more than one park. Although, this is a testing phase and lots of things can change.

I am one of those people that think FP should only be eligible to resort guests. Not looking to rile anyone up, it's just my opinion. I happen to like the way Universal handles this.

I bolded the part of your post that made me feel Do you have any idea how many locals never stay at the resorts and do hold APs ? Considering that, it doesn't make much sense to me what you said

For the record, we all are entitled to our opinion and you didn't rile me up Just seems like a totally unfair thing if only open to resort guests locals pour a LOT of revenue into Disney

 

[mom2mickeyfan]

I am one of those people that think FP should only be eligible to resort guests. Not looking to rile anyone up, it's just my opinion. I happen to like the way Universal handles this.

The problem with this is Universal only have a couple of resort that this perk is offered to. Disney has tons more resort guest. At Universal those resort guest affect the off-property guest much less compared to if Disney did the same. These theme parks need to keep off-site guest happy too. They need their money too.

 

[BridgetBordeaux]

Visited the World Oct 17-20 and was able to double dip. It will be interesting to see what happens in Nov and Dec as it sounds like MB testing will continue for a bit longer.

 

[GrimGrinningGhost25]

I bolded the part of your post that made me feel Do you have any idea how many locals never stay at the resorts and do hold APs ? Considering that, it doesn't make much sense to me what you said

For the record, we all are entitled to our opinion and you didn't rile me up Just seems like a totally unfair thing if only open to resort guests locals pour a LOT of revenue into Disney

Maybe I should clarify:

My feeling is that it should be different for the different types of tickets holders at Disney. AP, resort guests, offsite guests..ect. I think that this is a testing phase and things may change. I think that maybe this isn't a "one size fits all".

To the OP that commented on Universal resort guests/paying for front of line: Even though Disney has many more resorts, making it exclusive to resort guests/AP holders only would significantly cut down on the amount of people using the system.

You're never going to make everyone happy, but for those people complaining about the crowds and the waits and having to book FP+...closing it down to resort guests/AP holders or asking people to pay for it will make a big difference. But I don't think many people would be happy with that either.

 

[KimK2006]

I have read this whole thread and have had a lot of my questions answered. Here are some things I am fuzzy on. Any clarification would be appreciated!

1. I have to link my UT tickets to MDE to get FP+'s. Correct?
2. I am not sure how many days are on each of our old UT NE ticket. If I link the ticket to MDE, will the number of days show up?
3. I am not going until 6/1. How far out can I pick my FP rides? Or, is that not known yet since it is still in the testing phase?
4. If they make it where you can't "double dip", I would prefer to do FP- as we arrive at RD and are able to usually get more than 3 FP's a day. I think I read where you could opt out of FP+. Is that correct?

This is all SO confusing!! Thanks in advance for your help!