Jessa Duggar (of the Duggar Family) is courting

[chobie]

I live outside of Austin and, for full disclosure, their town slogan is "Keep Austin Weird." That said, walking down the street or going to any kind of festival here will have you encountering all sorts of different looks. There will be people who look like they just transported here from Woodstock all the way to people who look like they just stepped off of Rodeo Drive. It's really common to see the long skirts here, denim or otherwise. Of course, it's also common to see shorts with the booty hanging out the back, as well.

You rarely see teenage or young girls wearing long denim skirts, especially with polo shirts which is what the Duggar's usually wear. Haven't seen any of them wearing fashionable maxi dresses, yet.

 

[DawnM]

But much of the curriculum pointed to is used in schools as well, but Christian and secular schools.

Just because everyone doesn't do it doesn't make it bad.

It all covers the basics and meets the standards for the core classes.

I am sorry you can't "wrap your brain around it."

Dawn

I can't wrap by brain around an assertion that something is "mainstream" when it is just one, of many, methods employed by a small group which is decidedly not "mainstream," i.e. homeschoolers.



Children that have "submitted" are anything but resilient.

 

[luvsJack]

If you wore a long denim skirt on a hot summer day you would stand out.

Young girls wearing long skirts, especially along side their brothers wearing jeans, would stand out. It's just not the norm.

That would depend on where you are. Here, there are a lot of young ladies that wear longer skirts. They don't stand out.


I WISH some of our female students would being dressing like the Duggar girls, it would be oh, so nice to see a few less body parts.

 

[Granny square]

You rarely see teenage or young girls wearing long denim skirts, especially with polo shirts which is what the Duggar's usually wear. Haven't seen any of them wearing fashionable maxi dresses, yet.

You seem really hung up on fitting in and following mainstream style. You also seem fairly liberal minded so it surprises me that you are judging based on what everyone else is doing.

 

[chobie]

You seem really hung up on fitting in and following mainstream style. You also seem fairly liberal minded so it surprises me that you are judging based on what everyone else is doing.

I am liberal, that's why I won't support laws outlawing people wearing long denim skirts in the 90" weather.

And my only point was that the girls dress more in way that makes them stand out then the boys do.

Although they do dress more fashionable now then they did before they starting raking in the big bucks pimping themselves on tv.

 

[Granny square]

I am liberal, that's why I won't support laws outlawing people wearing long denim skirts in the 90" weather.

Am I missing where someone tried to make a law like that? My apologies of I did. I've got a terrible headache.

 

[Hrhpd]

And you know this how? Maybe if you read the Duggar's book, you would know what you are talking about. The bashers on this thread are again showing their hypocrisy. This is what the DIS Community Board is all about now. If you don't agree with the current Christian bashing/pro gay marriage/liberal view, you are bashed. So sad that it was once a nice place to visit and hang out. So many of the posters who were here for years have left, due to how this board has changed. It's really a shame. Would love to see threads on how Muslim women are treated by men, how they are forced to dress and conduct their lives, etc.

Oh yea, I am an RN, and have worked with quite a few physicians of Indian descent, who are in arranged marriages. Anyone up for starting a bashing thread about that? No, didn't think so.

Since you quoted me....

There was no bashing, just statements of behavior models they follow. And how do I know Josh and the girls were sent to the re-education camp? Because Michelle has said so.

The rest is just fact. The Train the Child Up model advocates beating a child till they submit.

The re-education camps have been exposed of practicing physical and emotional abuse.

How anybody of Indian race was linked to my quoted post is beyond me. The only thing I can think of is that you are reading stuff that isn't there and then projecting your own judgements on posts, particularly the post of mine that you quoted.

 

[chobie]

Am I missing where someone tried to make a law like that? My apologies of I did. I've got a terrible headache.

No, but people want to keep comparing judging the reality show that is the Duggar's with being against gay rights. I'm not against the rights of people to dress they way they do, but when it seems like the girls have less freedom then the boys in a situation, that bothers me.

Does that mean I have to turn in my liberal card?

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

You rarely see teenage or young girls wearing long denim skirts, especially with polo shirts which is what the Duggar's usually wear. Haven't seen any of them wearing fashionable maxi dresses, yet.

I'm not really talking about the fashionable maxi dresses. In Austin, you will see long, flowy dresses or skirts that you would think would be more common back in the 70's. You see them in long denim skirts. You also see them in the more "in fashion" styles of today. Really, everyone just wears whatever feels comfortable to them and no one really makes a fuss about it.

 

[Granny square]

No, but people want to keep comparing judging the reality show that is the Duggar's with being against gay rights. I'm not against the rights of people to dress they way they do, but when it seems like the girls have less freedom then the boys in a situation, that bothers me.

Does that mean I have to turn in my liberal card?

Hahahaha, you get to keep it. I missed the connection.

While I have no issue with people wearing whatever makes em happy I do have issues with trying to take away the rights of others.

 

[Hrhpd]

Speaking of intolerant and judgemental. Hey pot it's the kettle!!

If Josh puts himself out there as the spokesperson for one of the most hate mongering groups, then he is putting himself out there to be judged.

I don't have a problem with people who believe marriage is one man, one woman. I don't like that viewpoint, but it is their right to have it and I respect that.

However, when one becomes actively involved in an organization that judges people, making horrible accusations that have no basis in truth, and actively working to prevent basic equal rights for a portion of our country, then yes, they can be judged as intolerant and judgmental.

And I have no problem being the kettle on that one.

 

[Hrhpd]

I hope you understand when one party seeks to deny LGBT Americans equal rights, the opposing party can't/won't/shouldn't agree with the first party.
And silence would just be complicit.

 

[Conservative Hippie]

I am liberal, that's why I won't support laws outlawing people wearing long denim skirts in the 90" weather.

And my only point was that the girls dress more in way that makes them stand out then the boys do.

Although they do dress more fashionable now then they did before they starting raking in the big bucks pimping themselves on tv.

But that is only because our culture says its acceptable for women to wear booty shorts and have side-**** and cleavage hanging out, but not for men. Our culture also says women can wear thongs and teeny tiny tops at the beach but not go topless, while men can go topless but better cover their behinds.

In my family, the rules of modesty are the same for males and females -- we are covered shoulder to knee. No strapless, spaghetti straps, or tank tops for men or women. No booty shorts for men or women. No midriff-baring for men or women.

Edit: it is harder to find knee-length shorts for girls than for boys, and I think that is culture's problem, not mine.

Sent from me.

 

[Colleen27]

I think people are afraid to voice their opinions/beliefs because everyone is so touchy now. We are supposed to accept everyone and their belief system, regardless of our own. Think about it, how can that be? It can't. There's no way that can be true. Every one of us has a system or standard we live by and measure others by.

I think people confuse accept and respect. I don't see any pressure to accept everyone's beliefs regardless of one's own, but I do think there's immense pressure right now to respect the beliefs of others and recognize that your own beliefs are just that - yours, for you to live by, not to be imposed upon others.

Opinions and discussion are good. Those differences only become negative, IMO, when they cross over into one group trying to silence or discriminate against another.

Although they do dress more fashionable now then they did before they starting raking in the big bucks pimping themselves on tv.

Which suggests to me that at least part of the hideous wardrobe was a cost issue - not surprising, and probably responsible for at least part of the difference between the genders. You can walk into any Walmart or Kmart in this country and find cheap modest clothing for men. Modest clothing for women, on the other hand, is something of a niche market and if you don't want it to look old-ladyish or frumpy you're going to be spending a LOT more than -mart prices.

 

[Hrhpd]

We dress modestly in our house too (although for us short-sleeves are ok, not sleeveless or spaghetti straps though, and we wear knee-length skirts or capris). Same for men and women. It has nothing to do with being ashamed.

Sent from me.

Your way of dress sounds very sensible and if it works for you, great.

I think everybody should be able dress the way they want. That doesn't affect others at all.

The only time I shook my head at the Duggar's clothing choices is when they went on that trail ride in the mountains during one of their vacations.

I was wondering what was so bad about allowing the women to wear jeans that one time to facilitate riding a horse. I had horses and used to ride all the time growing up. Being stupid as a teen and riding in shorts (bare thighs against leather - ouch) I was cringing seeing the women riding in long skirts. Hopefully they had pants on underneath. Besides, riding in long skirts is not the safest thing in the world.

 

[Elinor Dashwood]

In light of the wardrobe debate going on, here is a recent pic of the family:

Notice the knee length skirts? Looks like they've loosened up somewhat on the dress code. If I were to see this family's picture without knowing them, I'd think they all look very nice.

Sorry, I have no idea why this is so big!

 

[BlueStarryHat]

I didn't know Josh Duggar was working for what for all intents and purposes is a hate group when I made my earlier post about liking the Duggars. On the show they never mentioned *what* his new job was in DC...sort of hushed about it, as they are about the more 'out there' aspects of the Duggars' belief system. I cannot tolerate bigotry and slander in any form, especially as it concerns the LGBT community. I'll stop watching, it's a simple as that.

I don't judge anybody for what they believe (or not believe, as the case may be), but when their beliefs infringe or try to infringe on the basic rights of human beings, I lose my tolerance.

 

[dakcp2001]

Anyone watch the episode last night?

 

[chobie]

In light of the wardrobe debate going on, here is a recent pic of the family:

Notice the knee length skirts? Looks like they've loosened up somewhat on the dress code. If I were to see this family's picture without knowing them, I'd think they all look very nice.

Sorry, I have no idea why this is so big!

Because like everything on the Dis, a side issue grew bigger and bigger?

Do we know why anything, ever, becomes a big deal here?

And yes, the skirts have gotten shorter and more and more makeup is being used. Maybe they're not so modest after all. Of course, IMO, announcing your pregnancies on national tv is not exactly "modest." Nor, is pointing to your new bed on said tv show and saying to one's wife "lets try for number 17." But that's just me.

 

[Ember]

I am getting really tired of the whole "don't judge anything!" shtick. Believing in things like freedom of speech, religion, etc. means that I believe in the rights of people to believe, say and do differently than myself. Which I hold to. I will defend someone's right to say things I vehemently disagree with. But that doesn't mean I have to respect, condone, approve or respect of what they are saying. I am free to think they are an idiot, and believe in their right think, act or say idiotic things at the same time.

The message that Josh Duggar puts out there is disgusting. I support his right to his views and his right to express them. But I think he's a bigoted pig. I feel the same about anyone who want's to use their beliefs to deny human rights to others.

I don't think closed-minded, hateful, intolerant children are any better for our society than spoiled, self centred, entitled children. The Duggar's may not be raising the latter, but they sure seem to be doing a great job of raising the former. (If Josh is any indication of their parenting.)