My saucy answer of Disney not shedding a tear: it really was about numbers. If a small number objects, Disney wont care. If a large number objects, Disney will care. I dont think the Dis, large as it is, counts as even 10% of Disney Vacation goers. And, the number who are very dissatisfied with Disney that voice their concerns, are often drowned out by several who say the exact opposite.
If your opinion starts to make up 20% of vacation goers, then Disney will lend an ear. Thats just what I think though.
EMH is the controversial Misconception I wanted to talk about, and also, how lines are suppose to get shorter (not).
I will post more about both of these later, because they will be lengthy.
but I just wanted to say, I dont think FP+ replacing EMH is going to be better for us. I dont know if it will be worse. I just think that EMH is the antithis of what disney really wants out of FP+, and that is crowd control.
The PR people will wrap it up in a pretty bow, and try to sell it.
So, just know that I dont think FP+ SHOULD replace EMH, I just think that it will. And, I understand the pain it will cause for many who love EMH. Back on my very first lengthy post, I said this new system will be a game changer, and in part, I said this because of what I see as the slow death of EMH.
But, I could be totally wrong. I will present what I consider the facts, and you guys can dissect it. This is just speculation on my part.
i'm probably missing something obvious here, but i keep seeing the phrase "valid ticket" in order to prebook. I also keep reading that it could be 60 days out for prebooking. What constitutes a valid ticket? if i book a package at WDW, currently i get my tickets on my KTTW card at check in. so does this mean there will be a change in ticketing as well? like i said, i'm probably missings something obvious here.
Even though you don't have a physical ticket in hand, you have already purchased your ticket when you book. So I'm pretty sure they would consider you to have a "valid ticket" at that time.
ok, so that makes sense to me. then those who stay offsite or are locals would have to purchase park tickets in advance in order to prebook FP+ in advance?
.If only they could come up with a system that only those that are actually in the park could take up places in the FP lines.
Presumably. Which is basically a big rude gesture to everyone from international markets, but I digress.
'Valid ticket' means a ticket to get into WDW. Magic Your Way as they so confusingly call it.
Perhaps there would be a way that these FP+ options aren't actually ACTIVE in the system until your RFID tells the park you there? I hope that makes sense, lol.
Not sure why...they can order tickets and book packages just like anyone else as far as I know.
Magic Your Way is a particular class of ticket, and currently the most common one as it applies to most everyone. But there are a bunch of different classes of tickets that aren't MYW tickets - Annual Passes, YES, Conference, Ultimate (UK), etc...
The T&C doesn't specify anything about other classes of tickets currently. They do say that MYW ticket holders will get the 60 day window. Others could potentially get more or less. It remains to be seen.
The way it looks to be set up, all you will need is a valid ticket associated with your profile. It doesn't need to be a physical ticket in your hand. But if you purchased a physical ticket, there will (presumably, it doesn't exist yet) a way to enter the ticket ID into the web site to get it associated.
I'm predicting that those who have a package associated with their profiles will automatically have the ticket associated as well for the purposes of FP+. Those ordering tickets online for will-call pickup likewise.
If only they could come up with a system that only those that are actually in the park could take up places in the FP lines.
Perhaps there would be a way that these FP+ options aren't actually ACTIVE in the system until your RFID tells the park you there? I hope that makes sense, lol.
But if they aren't active at what point can Disney "assume" you will not be in the park for your FP+?? My theory is Disney would not be able to give your FP+ away until only a minute or 2 before it expires if you aren't in the park. This would help the SB line but it wouldn't help more people get FP+s for that ride.
What remains to be seen is how will Disney prevent someone like me with a 10 NE ticket and staying off-site from booking FP+s for a full week when I know full well that we will only be visiting for 3 days this year but at 60 days out, I may not fully know which parks I will be going to. So I book FP+s at HS for TSM for 3 different day just in case we decide to go to HS on one of those days instead of another.
Or an AP holder, which they have said will not be left out, from make FP+s at TSM for a holiday weekend on the off chance their family may be able to go to Disney.
Everytime someone figures something out, there is a different path to go down! There just seems to be so many different holes in the plan. I am glad it is people smarter than I trying to figure out this out. To me the current system didn't seem to have so many different things to go wrong.
But if they aren't active at what point can Disney "assume" you will not be in the park for your FP+?? My theory is Disney would not be able to give your FP+ away until only a minute or 2 before it expires if you aren't in the park. This would help the SB line but it wouldn't help more people get FP+s for that ride.
What remains to be seen is how will Disney prevent someone like me with a 10 NE ticket and staying off-site from booking FP+s for a full week when I know full well that we will only be visiting for 3 days this year but at 60 days out, I may not fully know which parks I will be going to. So I book FP+s at HS for TSM for 3 different day just in case we decide to go to HS on one of those days instead of another.
doggydoc
6 month short term forecast: life is good, transition will be awesome and you will be able to manipulate the system to have a great time
Mid term forecast: its going to be much harder to jump through the hoops and have the easy access to headliners.
Longterm forecast: life is going to suck.
To answer your question: Oh yes, disney will not even glance back at your business doggydoc. They just replaced you with 3,000 new clients who came to disney and had a good time because they were forced to. I dont think Disney will even shed a tear.