Anyone want to talk about the photography aspect of last week's events?

Pea-n-Me

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[I am referring to the Boston Marathon bombings and subsequent identification and capture of the two bombing suspects.]

I haven't read any first hand accounts yet from photographers who captured the carnage.

I have seen some comments critical of some disturbing photographs that were published.

Seems as though some of the amateur photographs and video from every day photographers was very helpful to the FBI in identifying the suspects.

Thoughts?
 
Thank God they had the pictures of these savages at the scene it broke the case wide open and led to their death and capture. The other pictures did not bother me because I am used to seeing the real thing but I can understand this would be disturbing to others. I can understand others point of view how they found them offensive to see but this is real life. I can understand how they may hurt the victims families.
 
I saw a photo in Sports Illustrated that was pretty gruesome. It had lots of blood and carnage and I noticed a foot all alone. My first thought was, I wonder if they saw that before they printed it. I'm not sure how I feel about it. The scene WAS horrible and to pretend it wasn't doesn't do it justice.

I have also day dreamed about being there and snapping off a few myself. What a horrible day.

There was a Boston Globe photographer that got a few of the highly published photos like the one with the three cops near the fallen runner. From a photo perspective, right place - right time or wrong place - wrong time! Guess it depends on your perspective.
 
If this is the world in which we live, then we need to see it.
 
On one hand I think people have a right to know. But on the other hand how much is too much? How gruesome is too far? How many pictures are too many? Photographers have been struggling with this line since the first wartime photographs were shot during the Mexican-American war.

In the past the government has regulated the dissemination of news photo, film and video. But with the internet and this free flow of information that regulation is now in the direct hands of the people. And I'm not sure we, as a society, are making the best choices in what to share. We've lost all regard for privacy, human dignity and compassion. We as viewers pour over the images of the carnage and become detached and desensitized. We forget that each of those victims lying bloody on the pavement is a person. and we gobble up every single scrap of media we can. When images of horrific events are thrust at us over and over they cease to have impact for many.

Does anyone remember back on September 11th when the media decided to stop playing video of the World Trade Center buildings collapsing? One network said it was taking away the impact of a horrific event. After one network stopped most of the others followed suit. I really think the internet needs to take a cue from the network exec who had the guts to make that call back then.

I am glad that the photos and video were able to help police. It's not the first time that has happened, but certainly one of the most high profile recent cases. But having those photos and videos doesn't mean that they all need to be shared with the public. The story can be told, the horror can be conveyed, without showing every single bloody body. In fact, a few key images would have a lot more impact.

Putting my soapbox away now.
 
On one hand I think people have a right to know. But on the other hand how much is too much? How gruesome is too far? How many pictures are too many? Photographers have been struggling with this line since the first wartime photographs were shot during the Mexican-American war.

In the past the government has regulated the dissemination of news photo, film and video. But with the internet and this free flow of information that regulation is now in the direct hands of the people. And I'm not sure we, as a society, are making the best choices in what to share. We've lost all regard for privacy, human dignity and compassion. We as viewers pour over the images of the carnage and become detached and desensitized. We forget that each of those victims lying bloody on the pavement is a person. and we gobble up every single scrap of media we can. When images of horrific events are thrust at us over and over they cease to have impact for many.

Does anyone remember back on September 11th when the media decided to stop playing video of the World Trade Center buildings collapsing? One network said it was taking away the impact of a horrific event. After one network stopped most of the others followed suit. I really think the internet needs to take a cue from the network exec who had the guts to make that call back then.

I am glad that the photos and video were able to help police. It's not the first time that has happened, but certainly one of the most high profile recent cases. But having those photos and videos doesn't mean that they all need to be shared with the public. The story can be told, the horror can be conveyed, without showing every single bloody body. In fact, a few key images would have a lot more impact.

Putting my soapbox away now.

Well Said photo_chick I agree. :thumbsup2
 
I agree with photo chick, how much is too much? Unfortunately, as photographers we usually don't make that choice. That's made above our paygrade! Our job is to record it. I've been in situations where your recording an event, something happens and you have to make a choice. Its difficult and you only hope that you make the right call. Its difficult for me because I spent 39 years as a first responder. To lay back and let others handle it, isn't in my make-up, but I have to.
 
On one hand I think people have a right to know. But on the other hand how much is too much? How gruesome is too far? How many pictures are too many? Photographers have been struggling with this line since the first wartime photographs were shot during the Mexican-American war.

In the past the government has regulated the dissemination of news photo, film and video. But with the internet and this free flow of information that regulation is now in the direct hands of the people. And I'm not sure we, as a society, are making the best choices in what to share. We've lost all regard for privacy, human dignity and compassion. We as viewers pour over the images of the carnage and become detached and desensitized. We forget that each of those victims lying bloody on the pavement is a person. and we gobble up every single scrap of media we can. When images of horrific events are thrust at us over and over they cease to have impact for many.

Does anyone remember back on September 11th when the media decided to stop playing video of the World Trade Center buildings collapsing? One network said it was taking away the impact of a horrific event. After one network stopped most of the others followed suit. I really think the internet needs to take a cue from the network exec who had the guts to make that call back then.

I am glad that the photos and video were able to help police. It's not the first time that has happened, but certainly one of the most high profile recent cases. But having those photos and videos doesn't mean that they all need to be shared with the public. The story can be told, the horror can be conveyed, without showing every single bloody body. In fact, a few key images would have a lot more impact.

Putting my soapbox away now.

I was born and brought up in Boston...
Six members of my family were at the finish line...
You nailed what I have felt all week! Thank You!
 
I agree with photo chick, how much is too much? Unfortunately, as photographers we usually don't make that choice. That's made above our paygrade! Our job is to record it. I've been in situations where your recording an event, something happens and you have to make a choice. Its difficult and you only hope that you make the right call. Its difficult for me because I spent 39 years as a first responder. To lay back and let others handle it, isn't in my make-up, but I have to.

Gianna'sPapa we seem to be cut from the same mold. I was an EMT for 10 years in a high pace environment namely Anderson SC and Charleston SC. So I understand what you mean when you say " Its difficult and you only hope that you make the right call." I still have the problem of trying to lay back and let others handle it. It doesn't play well with me as you say, "it, isn't in my make-up". :thumbsup2
I'm sure that we have seem more then we will ever be able to forget. :(
 
Gianna'sPapa we seem to be cut from the same mold. I was an EMT for 10 years in a high pace environment namely Anderson SC and Charleston SC. So I understand what you mean when you say " Its difficult and you only hope that you make the right call." I still have the problem of trying to lay back and let others handle it. It doesn't play well with me as you say, "it, isn't in my make-up". :thumbsup2
I'm sure that we have seem more then we will ever be able to forget. :(

Exactly, with 39 years in law enforcement and 4 years in the Marine Corps (13 months in Viet Nam) prior to that, I've seen enough for any one lifetime. I think that is why I enjoy working in sports entertainment. Its all about the good times. Of course, there are those days when something tragic happens in sports. The day Danny Wheldon was killed at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway was extremely stressful. Its hard watching a friend die, even if it was doing something he loved. Anyway, we move on just like those in Boston, Newtown, West and others. We send our prayers to all those affected in these tragedies.
 
I very much agree with photo_chick post. I live not far from Boston. I had 5 friends that were at the finish line that day and by the grace of God were not physically injured. Another friend of mine has 2 friends that were seriously injured. I can tell you....You have seen their faces in these graphic photos.
As a photographer myself (at times I have taken fire photos) there are some photos I have taken in the moment that only my eyes have ever seen due to the circumstances. I also agree that a story can be told with out the graphic nature of some of these photos. Obviously in this case I would have turned my photos as well over to the FBI for review and if they posted something it would be out of my hands.
Please keep all of the victims both the physically injured and emotionally injured of the Boston Marathon in your prayer. Thanks you!
 
I agree with photo chick, how much is too much? Unfortunately, as photographers we usually don't make that choice. That's made above our paygrade! Our job is to record it. I've been in situations where your recording an event, something happens and you have to make a choice. Its difficult and you only hope that you make the right call. Its difficult for me because I spent 39 years as a first responder. To lay back and let others handle it, isn't in my make-up, but I have to.

But photographers are making that choice now by sharing the images online. Message boards, social networks... there is no regulation. And an image can easily get picked up and go viral this way, spreading farther and faster than what any news agency can do.
 
But photographers are making that choice now by sharing the images online. Message boards, social networks... there is no regulation. And an image can easily get picked up and go viral this way, spreading farther and faster than what any news agency can do.

I agree. What I was referring to is when you are working an event and your employer/client gets the images. The editors/graphics folks make the choice which images are posted.
 
I agree with photo chick, how much is too much? Unfortunately, as photographers we usually don't make that choice. That's made above our paygrade! Our job is to record it. I've been in situations where your recording an event, something happens and you have to make a choice. Its difficult and you only hope that you make the right call. Its difficult for me because I spent 39 years as a first responder. To lay back and let others handle it, isn't in my make-up, but I have to.

I agree with you and others that as a photographer, especially if you are being paid for an event, your job is to get the photos. The more difficult question is how you handle the situation of making a choice between recording an event or helping. I remember listening to a discussion on a podcast a few years, can't remember the story the discussion was based on, how you as photographer, would make that decision. It was interesting the differences in responses. I remember how I was actually getting angry with one of the people, when they talked about how it was their responsibility to continue taking photos, even it they were asked to help someone. I guess I'm just someone that couldn't stand by and not try to help.


I agree. What I was referring to is when you are working an event and your employer/client gets the images. The editors/graphics folks make the choice which images are posted.

Agree, it's the photographers job to get the images and its the editors/designers job to chose what to post.
 
There was a fascinating and emotional piece on CBS Sunday Morning week before last regarding the opening of the World Trade Center Memorial Museum. The head of the organization and board members shared some of the discussions/arguments as to what would go into it. There appeared to be a clear line between those that felt that the public should see it all in all of it's horror and those that wanted to sanitize it for the public. It seems the truth is winning out. Many of the board members are family members of those that were lost. Subjects like do you show the faces of the terrorists or how do you cover those that jumped if at all!

I believe the winning theme is the entire story needs to be told, you cannot and should not sanitize history. I agree with that philosophy personally.

I do not want to see body parts on the evening news but I do want to be able to have somewhere where I can elect to find out what truly happened. I believe we have sanitized too many horrific times in history and believe it does change the story over time.

We are all journalists today with our cell phones, etc and look at what we are seeing!
 

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